• Japanese culture shows dark side connected to manga, anime
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[T]http://i.imgur.com/NwLOEza.jpg[/T] [QUOTE]Manga and anime are a trademark aspect of Japanese culture. They have grown famous around the world for colorful illustrations and art style, elfin-like characters, and, depending on what you’re watching or reading, loosely clad and ridiculously proportioned heroes and heroines. While most of these artistic productions are all in good fun, Japan’s booming industry hides a darker side that sits in stark contrast with its generally lighthearted material — at least if you are from the United Kingdom, Australia, Canada or the United States you might think so. Even though Japan’s parliament, in 1999, made it illegal to produce and distribute child porn, it was this last June that the country made it illegal to possess real images of child sexual abuse. So how does this relate to the nation’s manga and anime industry? BBC News reporter James Fletcher's recent article “Why hasn’t Japan banned Child-porn Comics?” reveals that even though real child porn is unlawful in Japan, artistic illustrations or depictions of child porn, weirdly enough, are almost seen as a cultural norm, depending on who you are speaking to. For example, during his investigation, Fletcher went to a manga convention in Tokyo and there he interviewed one of the event organizers, a man named Hide. Amid manga that depicts girls in their early or pre-teen years who are involved in sexual scenarios that range from incest, rape and other taboos, he was surprised by the candor Hide displayed about the material showcased. “Everyone knows that child abuse is not a good thing,” Hide said. “But having that kind of emotion is free, enjoying imaging some sexual situations with a child is not prohibited.” Even crazier is the fact that Hide’s wife, who was standing nearby was not phased by his self-proclaimed hobby of “young-girl sexual creations.” “She probably thinks no problem,” Hide said. “Because she loves young boys sexually interacting with each other.” According to BBC, Japan’s manga industry generates $3.6 billion annually; material that showcases child pornography, tentacle-porn and other sinister carnal elements makes up a small part of the industry — though it does attract a large amount of controversy and attention.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.hilltopviewsonline.com/viewpoints/article_be10290c-b097-11e4-8b95-f7b9b90252c0.html"]More info[/URL]. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("alt of perma'd gimmick ChoppedOffMyD" - Orkel))[/highlight]
God damnit Japan
Japan is hardly the only country that has not banned drawn pornography that features participants you couldn't legally make real life pornography of.
so what this guy is pretty much saying is "child porn is bad but i love imagining and looking at [I]illustrations[/I] of it!" was child porn seriously fully legal before 1999 in japan and still having it legal last year. japan wtf
[QUOTE=Saturn V;47112604]so what this guy is pretty much saying is "child porn is bad but i love imagining and looking at [I]illustrations[/I] of it!" was child porn seriously fully legal before 1999 in japan and still having it legal last year. japan wtf[/QUOTE] Pretty sure CP only became illegal in most Western countries in the 80s. Anyway, the whole reason to ban CP is that making it harms children. No matter how fucked up it is, drawings of children shouldn't be illegal because making it doesn't harm children. You also have the issue of how do you decide what is CP and what is not. One moment you could say that a drawing is of a 17yo and it's illegal, the next you can say it's actually of an 18yo and it's legal.
I don't really see the issue here.
[quote] material that showcases child pornography, tentacle-porn and other sinister carnal elements[/quote] Whats sinister about tentacle porn?
As long as no ones actually fiddling with kids then I don't see a problem, I mean are we gonna allow folk the free speech to publish images of Mohammed and then say that a schoolgirl getting triple penetrated by a Kraken is across the line when there's a legitimate risk of people being injured over the first.
Everytime I'm on Noxious Net someone has to spray kiddie manga porn all over the walls.
Oh boy! Another thread where people defend artistic expression the fact that the people in the manga and shit don't actually fucking exist while they get shit on and called disgusting pedos (or worse) by the less intelligent members of the forum! This type of thread has happened twice before and that's how it went both times.
it's only going to get worse too, thread should be closed
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;47112690]Oh boy! Another thread where people defend artistic expression the fact that the people in the manga and shit don't actually fucking exist while they get shit on and called disgusting pedos (or worse) by the less intelligent members of the forum![/QUOTE] uh Im sorry dude but "freedom of expression" or not, if you get off to/enjoy kiddy porn (drawn or otherwise), you're a fucking pedophile by definition
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47112702]uh Im sorry dude but "freedom of expression" or not, if you get off to/enjoy kiddy porn (drawn or otherwise), you're a fucking pedophile by definition[/QUOTE] No that would make you a lolicon by definition
in all honesty, no matter what you think about the subject, the second you decide that it's a great idea to post on a discussion board and attempt to defend something that depicts children being abused and which main role is to provide wanking material to the, uh, target audience, don't you think there's something insanely wrong with you [QUOTE=chunkymonkey;47112690]called disgusting pedos (or worse) by the less intelligent members of the forum![/QUOTE] the fuck are you implying here "my sexual urges are being suppressed by idiots who don't want to see them on a public forum"? [QUOTE=Toyhobo;47112698]it's only going to get worse too, thread should be closed[/QUOTE] this is true - no one's going to talk about the exact news article, but instead talk about the general issue the article is bringing (as it should be) but on facepunch, it's going to spark a mass debate in which someone is going to defend child pornography at one point and it's not going to bring anything good a t a l l
[QUOTE=download;47112631]Pretty sure CP only became illegal in most Western countries in the 80s. Anyway, the whole reason to ban CP is that making it harms children. [B]No matter how fucked up it is, drawings of children shouldn't be illegal because making it doesn't harm children.[/B] You also have the issue of how do you decide what is CP and what is not. One moment you could say that a drawing is of a 17yo and it's illegal, the next you can say it's actually of an 18yo and it's legal.[/QUOTE] Goodbye this Thread.
Here comes the GMF, they've been training for this day. Beware, for you shall all be judged by higher moral beings.
[QUOTE=Jon MadN;47112719]No that would make you a lolicon by definition[/QUOTE] but lolicon is drawn illustrations of children in sexual situations. that by definition is child porn
This thread is going to be a disaster.
[QUOTE=Reds;47112729]Here comes the GMF, they've been training for this day. Beware, for you shall all be judged by higher moral beings.[/QUOTE] are you implying that you needed to spend $5 on an internet forum to think cp is bad
[QUOTE=Cone;47112741]are you implying that you needed to spend $5 on an internet forum to think cp is bad[/QUOTE] Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying. Garry'll be a rich man when he tells this to leading anti child abuse groups.
but it's a 5000 year old witch
I'm of the opinion of who gives a shit about your fetishes whether they range from weird to potentially dangerous, as long as you keep it to yourself and don't involve other people. If you absolutely have to masturbate to something on a regular basis then I don't really see the harm in drawn material where nobody is hurt and you aren't encouraging or participating in actual child abuse. You shouldn't lynch people for something that hurts absolutely nobody. I'm not gonna defend it nor be against it more than that and I think that's a fairly safe neutral position.
I do have to point out that the OP is an obvious gimmick trying to stir shit up so you should probably do what the report button is useful for??
I swear this thread should just be locked right now. Actually, I'd argue that the article isn't even news, this has been going on for a long time.
[quote]For example, during his investigation, Fletcher went to a manga convention in Tokyo and there he interviewed one of the event organizers, a man named Hide.[/quote] "Hello, I'm with a news organization, and we're here to investigate child porn in Japan. Who are you?" "HIDE!" "It's very nice to meet you, Hide", he says as the rest of the artists all pack their things and run off.
If there's no child getting molested I don't see why it should be illegal, creepy and not something I want to see, but no one's getting hurt other than the guys with wankers cramp.
[QUOTE=Reds;47112776]I'm of the opinion of who gives a shit about your fetishes whether they range from weird to potentially dangerous, as long as you keep it to yourself and don't involve other people. If you absolutely have to masturbate to something on a regular basis then I don't really see the harm in drawn material where nobody is hurt and you aren't encouraging or participating in actual child abuse. You shouldn't lynch people for something that hurts absolutely nobody. I'm not gonna defend it nor be against it more than that and I think that's a fairly safe neutral position.[/QUOTE] But but but my moral high horse!
[QUOTE=Timebomb575;47112702]uh Im sorry dude but "freedom of expression" or not, if you get off to/enjoy kiddy porn (drawn or otherwise), you're a fucking pedophile by definition[/QUOTE] So, If a woman likes non censual porn, she likes being raped? Nice logic bro
[QUOTE=chunkymonkey;47112690]Oh boy! Another thread where people defend artistic expression the fact that the people in the manga and shit don't actually fucking exist while they get shit on and called disgusting pedos (or worse) by the less intelligent members of the forum! This type of thread has happened twice before and that's how it went both times.[/QUOTE] how does jacking it to little girls, drawn or otherwise, not make you a pedo you are literally busting a nut to a little girl
[QUOTE=Reds;47112729]Here comes the GMF, they've been training for this day. Beware, for you shall all be judged by higher moral beings.[/QUOTE] [img]http://i.imgur.com/O9WkP8K.gif[/img]
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