My [URL="http://davefromthebus.bandcamp.com/track/reitschule-dottor"]first Electronic Song[/URL], Feedback Please!
It's quite alright, it has too little variety, but really not as boring as alot of other stuff I hear from here.
Comment from someone who isn't an expert in making electronic music.
I'll challenge myself to asking only questions, so questions as I listen.
Why is there a gap at the start? Why do I know the chord progression after the second chord and when the drums where going to come in? Why does it play into the typical introduce a new element every four bars? Why has it stayed on the idea so long? Wouldn't you spend less time on something predictable? Why not incorporate a melody? Why does the new part at 2:00 sound so muddy? How did we get back to the original part with minimal tension? What is the intention of the ending?
Comment from someone who doesn't see the point in basketball.
Dude, why not?
Chord progressions are used over and over because they work, typical introductions are used because they work. Repetition is used because it works. I wasn't trying to do something new, to struggle to pointlessly make myself different, if it worked i would do it. It doesn't need to be brazen, to create tension, it's relaxing, it's simple. There is something to say about that. It's about making a song in a medium and a program i had no idea how to use.
I'm not even going to start on the songs that you have posted. My song has unique sounds and ideas in a traditional format, unlike the generic petulance you have produced. Yeah, my song ended early because i bounced it wrong, and yes there isn't a solid repetitious melody, but at least I've created a sound scape that has even an inkling of emotion. I've taken sounds (every track except percussion is EVP88) and transformed them. But I'm not sinking to questioning why you have churned out the same, boring, overdone, over compressed, slimy shit that's been done a million times without realizing it.
It's fine.
You're not original, barely even creative.
That's fine.
I'm not.
I accept that.
Maybe you should.
FUCKING ARSE.
Comment from someone who openly laughed at your Deviantart page so hard I may share it as a joke with others.
[QUOTE=Pepin;31862312]I'll challenge myself to asking only questions, so questions as I listen.
Why is there a gap at the start? Why do I know the chord progression after the second chord and when the drums where going to come in? Why does it play into the typical introduce a new element every four bars? Why has it stayed on the idea so long? Wouldn't you spend less time on something predictable? Why not incorporate a melody? Why does the new part at 2:00 sound so muddy? How did we get back to the original part with minimal tension? What is the intention of the ending?
Comment from someone who doesn't see the point in basketball.[/QUOTE]
aw i came here to give some helpful advice to be greeted by negativity, arguing and a nickelback video
worst thread ever :((
Woah, you really expected to be greeted by praises, hoorays and cock sucking when you show people your first electronic song? And when that didn't happen you raged? You are a bad person.
Holy fuck martian thats being an ass. HEY GUYS I MADE ONE SONG PRAISE ME OR FUCK YOU.
Gtfo or stop having an incredibly shit attitude.
Not even listening to that.
[editline]21st August 2011[/editline]
lol
Okay so i had to click is that nickelback? What an incredibly dumb question I jsut posed
I was in this thread before that wasn't nickelback back then. I wanna hear OP's song so i can call him uncreative.
[url]http://www.bubgame.com/content/icons/troll-face-game-icon-1.png[/url]
That's what you all are.
:(
I'm going to sign a record deal and laugh at you all!
[QUOTE=MartianDiplomat;31866729]Dude, why not?
Chord progressions are used over and over because they work, typical introductions are used because they work. Repetition is used because it works. I wasn't trying to do something new, to struggle to pointlessly make myself different, if it worked i would do it. It doesn't need to be brazen, to create tension, it's relaxing, it's simple. There is something to say about that. It's about making a song in a medium and a program i had no idea how to use.
but at least I've created a sound scape that has even an inkling of emotion. I've taken sounds (every track except percussion is EVP88) and transformed them.[/QUOTE]
Predictability is boring. When someone knows the entire structure of your song with in the first couple of bars, then it becomes really difficult to get the listener interesting. Think of it like a sitcom where you know the how the plot is going to progress within the first couple of minutes.
There is good repetition and bad repetition and for whatever reason many people don't understand this. Repetition is really difficult to use because you have to assume that the idea you're basing everything off of was good to begin with, and then even if it is good, you don't want to kill the idea through overuse. Think of a comedy that has a running joke that fails. It either fails because it wasn't funny to begin with or because they overused it and it become old. A comedy that uses repetition in a good way will start off with a good joke, make the joke better the next couple of times, and through off the viewer by creating the anticipation that the running joke is going to be used again but then substituting something else.
There wasn't much of any tension, and without tension there can't be relaxation. Certainly the level of tension in this type of music is low, but you to find a decent balance that keeps your audience listening. A big reason for there being a lot of tension is the predictability. Like in a sitcom where you already know the plot, it's hard to build up any anticipation/tension when you are already aware of the outcome.
[QUOTE=MartianDiplomat;31867477][url]http://www.bubgame.com/content/icons/troll-face-game-icon-1.png[/url][/QUOTE]
step 1: post mediocre song
step 2: try to backup that your song was good after removing it, but failing and looking incredibly dumb
step 3: as last resort claim that you were trolling because you've now made it clear to everyone how retarded your ego has made you
Left myself logged in at a friend's house. He decided to post that song he made, and then proceeded to be a dick. That's being entirely honest. Apologies for his dickish behavior. There's a reason he stays on 4chan.
You should learn how to take criticism.
[QUOTE=MartianDiplomat;31867477][url]http://www.bubgame.com/content/icons/troll-face-game-icon-1.png[/url]
I'm going to sign a record deal and laugh at you all![/QUOTE]
:v:
Not gonna happen with that song dude
[editline]21st August 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=MartianDiplomat;31868646]Left myself logged in at a friend's house. He decided to post that song he made, and then proceeded to be a dick. That's being entirely honest. Apologies for his dickish behavior. There's a reason he stays on 4chan.[/QUOTE]
If that's the case, tell your friend his song needs work
[QUOTE=MartianDiplomat;31868646]Left myself logged in at a friend's house. He decided to post that song he made, and then proceeded to be a dick. That's being entirely honest. Apologies for his dickish behavior. There's a reason he stays on 4chan.[/QUOTE]
Kids these days can be so cruel.
Backpedal as hard as you can quick now. Oh Im kidding I love you Op go punch your friend in the face
Backpedal more!
As dumb as this entire thread may be, I agree on some points he made, in his reply to Pepin.
He could have voiced them differently though...
[QUOTE=healthpoint;31888295]As dumb as this entire thread may be, I agree on some points he made, in his reply to Pepin.
He could have voiced them differently though...[/QUOTE]
The parts critiquing my music, or the parts talking about repetition and stuff? I did address the points not related to myself.
The drums are pretty balls imo. You want to mix them better.
It is of great importance that you mix percussion well!
How is the kick equalized for example?
The vocals. Uhh.. I don't know. Just use a vocoder or something instead.
Other than that it's not bad at all for a first song.
[QUOTE=Pepin;31889238]The parts critiquing my music, or the parts talking about repetition and stuff? I did address the points not related to myself.[/QUOTE]
The parts about repetition, and the chord progression of course.
I mean, you mentioned knowing what the rest of the progression would be after the second chord, but I personally had another third chord in mind then the one he ended up using. What I'm trying to say is, that I somewhat agree on his point that certain progressions are used because they work. I think the fact that you knew what the rest of the progression was going to do, has more to do with the fact that you know a [i]lot[/i] about music theory. Definitely more than me, and probably more than your average Joe that would end up listening to a track like this. I personally believe good music is a combination between expectation and surprise. And his song had this to some degree. [i]for me[/i].
The rest of his post is just weak though. He reacted like a child.
The song wasn't bad at all, except for the vocals, really.
But that's just my opinion.
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