• Fish eye lens?
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Hey there I'm looking for a good but cheapish fish eye lens, I've had a look around and there are plenty of them but I aren't entirely sure what the numbers mean as I'm quite new to photography Heres an example I found [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/Zeikos-Fisheye-Adapter-Digital-Auxiliary/dp/B002HXEBIK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1314616088&sr=8-3[/url] also I have a canon EOS 500 [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canon_EOS_500[/url] which I believe is 58mm for lenses [IMG]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3148/2451088929_179906c03f.jpg[/IMG] Photo isn't mine but its an awesome example of fish eye photos :) Any advice is appreciated!
'Good but cheapish', that's not how it works with lenses.
The numbers are the lens filter thread sizes. That lens is supposed to screw onto the front of another lens, rather just being straight on the camera. If you want decent quality like in the photo you posted, you'd need a proper fisheye, rather than one of the filter ones. [editline]29th August 2011[/editline] Proper ones would probably be ~£200 if you get a manual focus one made in eastern europe (they're pretty good from what I've seen). A canon one that has AF will probably be about twice that.
[QUOTE=MoarFunz;32002535]'Good but cheapish', that's not how it works with lenses.[/QUOTE] hmm.. what I meant to say was good for the price :) [QUOTE=Uber|nooB;32002564]The numbers are the lens filter thread sizes. That lens is supposed to screw onto the front of another lens, rather just being straight on the camera. If you want decent quality like in the photo you posted, you'd need a proper fisheye, rather than one of the filter ones. [editline]29th August 2011[/editline] Proper ones would probably be ~£200 if you get a manual focus one made in eastern europe (they're pretty good from what I've seen). A canon one that has AF will probably be about twice that.[/QUOTE] Thanks thats pretty much the answer I was looking for, I guess I'll get one for around 200ish as it'd be better paying more for an average one rather than wasting money on a crap one Cheers!
Samyang/Walimex offers an 8mm fisheye with pretty good build quality: [url]http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002C9RP96/[/url] (cheaper in € though, for example at [url="http://www.amazon.de/walimex-pro-Fish-Eye-Objektiv-Canon/dp/B002C9RP96/"]amazon.de[/url]) here's a test: [url]http://www.photozone.de/canon-eos/526-samyang8f35eos[/url]
[QUOTE=MoarFunz;32002535]'Good but cheapish', that's not how it works with lenses.[/QUOTE] Nikon 35mm 1.8/50mm 1.8 Canon 50mm 1.8 It kinda is how it works, though very selective ;)))))) Though with cheap fish-eye lenses you get mostly horrible quality You should maybe rent a lens and see if you like it enough to put money to
[QUOTE=DoubleDD;32003155]Nikon 35mm 1.8/50mm 1.8 Canon 50mm 1.8 It kinda is how it works, though very selective ;)))))) Though with cheap fish-eye lenses you get mostly horrible quality You should maybe rent a lens and see if you like it enough to put money to[/QUOTE] Are those fish eye lenses? after looking up a few reviews on googleh, none of them appear to say fisheye anywhere lol, and I never knew you could rent lenses :o there is a camera shop I know of that sells a variety of lenses I could always ask I guess :)
[QUOTE=Whitewhale;32003268]Are those fish eye lenses? after looking up a few reviews on googleh, none of them appear to say fisheye anywhere lol, and I never knew you could rent lenses :o there is a camera shop I know of that sells a variety of lenses I could always ask I guess :)[/QUOTE] No they are not. Was just proving the point about how cheap lenses aren't always bad. But really, cheap fish-eye lenses give you poor quality. I also wouldn't suggest spending lots of money on a good fish-eye lens because it is a special-purpose lens, aka you won't use it a lot, only on special occasions. Renting is the best way to see if you like a lens and if you are willing to pay the money for one
[QUOTE=DoubleDD;32003293]No they are not. Was just proving the point about how cheap lenses aren't always bad. But really, cheap fish-eye lenses give you poor quality. I also wouldn't suggest spending lots of money on a good fish-eye lens because it is a special-purpose lens, aka you won't use it a lot, only on special occasions. Renting is the best way to see if you like a lens and if you are willing to pay the money for one[/QUOTE] well thats certainly proof as to how noobish I am with photography... haha, I do a lot of skateboarding photography etc and fish eye lenses seem to work really well in that area so, if I can find a reasonably priced one I wouldn't mind spending the money :)
You can generally find near mint condition 2nd hand lenses on gumtree.com, sometimes with a 33% saving on retail.
One of the cheapest ones on the market while actually being ok in build quality. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE8M-C-Fisheye-Canon-Black/dp/B002LTXQUE/ref=pd_cp_p_pw_3[/url] [editline]29th August 2011[/editline] Actually I'd avoid going fisheye entirely and just go for a very wide angle solution. Fisheye lenses tend to have more problems than they are worth, especially since the range of photographs you can take is very limited. Wide angle lenses tend to provide you with much more versatility. This is just one example from the same company I just posted. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-C-Ultra-Canon-Black/dp/B003VSGQPG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1314634600&sr=8-5[/url]
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;32002564] Proper ones would probably be ~£200 if you get a manual focus one made in eastern europe (they're pretty good from what I've seen). A canon one that has AF will probably be about twice that.[/QUOTE] from what i've looked into on fisheyes (granted i looked into mostly the canon FD system) they don't focus at all, and are already prefocused to infinity. [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANON-FISH-EYE-LENS-FD-FISHEYE-CANON-7-5mm-LENS-/230465950057?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item35a8d75169[/url] that's an example of what i mean
[QUOTE=Edthefirst;32005262]One of the cheapest ones on the market while actually being ok in build quality. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE8M-C-Fisheye-Canon-Black/dp/B002LTXQUE/ref=pd_cp_p_pw_3[/url] [editline]29th August 2011[/editline] Actually I'd avoid going fisheye entirely and just go for a very wide angle solution. Fisheye lenses tend to have more problems than they are worth, especially since the range of photographs you can take is very limited. Wide angle lenses tend to provide you with much more versatility. This is just one example from the same company I just posted. [url]http://www.amazon.com/Rokinon-FE14M-C-Ultra-Canon-Black/dp/B003VSGQPG/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1314634600&sr=8-5[/url][/QUOTE] hmm its the effect of the fish eye lens that I'm after really I know the range of photo i can take is limited but I already have a 28-80mm lens that I use for normal shots but the first link is definitely the thing I'm looking for :)
[QUOTE=Trogdon;32006254]from what i've looked into on fisheyes (granted i looked into mostly the canon FD system) they don't focus at all, and are already prefocused to infinity. [url]http://www.ebay.com/itm/CANON-FISH-EYE-LENS-FD-FISHEYE-CANON-7-5mm-LENS-/230465950057?pt=Camera_Lenses&hash=item35a8d75169[/url] that's an example of what i mean[/QUOTE] well, the peleng and zenitar fisheyes focus (manually); the canon EF 15mm fisheye even has AF. out of all the fisheyes i've looked at a while ago, i don't think i've ever come across ones with pre-set focus. pre-set aperture was more common.
When you say 58mm, that's just filter size for the front of the lens. Other lenses, like a Tokina 11-16, still fit on your camera but have a 77mm filter. It's just...that way. Also, in my personal opinion, I don't particularly like fisheyes for the way they distort things. I like straight lines yet still really wide, so that's why I like the 11-16. Hecka wide (like, I don't think you'll ever need anything wider) and reasonable price. For example: [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/32922592@N08/3988768009[/url] It's up to you about the fisheye/superwide choice. The 11-16 is about $700USD (not [I]too[/I] bad).
[QUOTE=Uber|nooB;32009234]well, the peleng and zenitar fisheyes focus (manually); the canon EF 15mm fisheye even has AF. out of all the fisheyes i've looked at a while ago, i don't think i've ever come across ones with pre-set focus. pre-set aperture was more common.[/QUOTE] the one i linked definitely has preset focus, as do some of the other ones on the FD system. but yeah I guess some do have focusing, which i didn't know about haha
Also if you're looking for something like your photo's example, you're looking for an ultra wide angle, not a fisheye (be careful, they may seem the same but the fisheye will distort the photo like crazy, not just make it look ''disproportionate''). Oh well that was already mentioned (I think?) but in conclussion, you're not looking for a fisheye lens (from what you've shown us). Since it's kinda hard to find AF ultra wide lenses you should look for manual focus ones, it shouldn't be a big deal as you barely need to refocus with ultra wides if you know what you're doing.
16mm zenitar. 200 bucks, acceptable quality.
Samyang 8mm. Its great for videos too.
[QUOTE=The Un-Men;32027752]Also if you're looking for something like your photo's example, you're looking for an ultra wide angle, not a fisheye (be careful, they may seem the same but the fisheye will distort the photo like crazy, not just make it look ''disproportionate''). Oh well that was already mentioned (I think?) but in conclussion, you're not looking for a fisheye lens (from what you've shown us). Since it's kinda hard to find AF ultra wide lenses you should look for manual focus ones, it shouldn't be a big deal as you barely need to refocus with ultra wides if you know what you're doing.[/QUOTE] Ah so its wide angle I'm after? I found that in a '15 awesome fisheye compilation' so thank you for clearing that up :) in that case I'll be after a wide angle lense before a fisheye :) also Chinook that example you showed us is AMAZING! :D Also heres something I've found in.... [URL="http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=bvre&cp=1&gs_id=2w&xhr=t&q=cheap+wide+angle+lens+canon&pq=wide+angle+lens+canon&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1280&bih=845&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2126944823814662816&sa=X&ei=csdfToGeF8Ku8gPFuYzEAw&sqi=2&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ"]http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?hl=en&sugexp=bvre&cp=1&gs_id=2w&xhr=t&q=cheap+wide+angle+lens+canon&pq=wide+angle+lens+canon&gs_upl=&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&biw=1280&bih=845&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=shop&cid=2126944823814662816&sa=X&ei=csdfToGeF8Ku8gPFuYzEAw&sqi=2&ved=0CEkQ8wIwAQ[/URL] what would that be like for wide angle photos?
that won't take as wide of pictures as you want. 28 is kind of wide on a 35mm camera, but you are looking for less than 20mm for what you want.
Less than 20? ok then :) cheers!
Yea, wide lenses are fantastic when you use them. It's just that they don't offer the zoominess of a telephoto. I know that's like, DUH but when you use the zoom on an ultrawide, the widest to tightest makes you go, "oh." Go rent one, try one out. I personally totally adore the wide 11mm tokina :wink: but it doesn't let you get in tight when you want it. If you don't mind changing lenses often, then go for it. But I personally try not to change lenses too often, just because of the dust issue. If they could make an 11-400mm lens, they would; they just can't because it's extremely hard to get a lens like that to be high quality. Or cheap.
I have a Samyang 8mm fisheye. - Really good, no vignetting. - Cheap. - 180* I use it for skate footage.
I wish I had a fisheye lens. Do a tracking shot and you have a perfect 90's rap video.
Honestly, unless you have a really good use to get a fisheye don't get one. They are quite expensive, but if you have the money then I don't know what to say.
[QUOTE=Cp.Legacy;32170744]Honestly, unless you have a really good use to get a fisheye don't get one. They are quite expensive, but if you have the money then I don't know what to say.[/QUOTE] If you have the money: [url]http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/fisheyes/6mmf28.htm[/url]
[QUOTE=HiddenMyst;32281431]If you have the money: [url]http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/fisheyes/6mmf28.htm[/url][/QUOTE] Jeez that's a monster lens. 5.2kg of glass and metal. Too bad I don't have a Nikon. Or the money to buy it.
[QUOTE=Jaanus;32042618]16mm zenitar. 200 bucks, acceptable quality.[/QUOTE] I own this lens (though I've lost it, no idea how :v:) and it's a nice lens to have.
EOS 500 has a crop factor of 1.6 so you are losing a great deal on wide angle lenses. To get pictures like 18mm you'd need a 11,25mm lens. [editline]14th September 2011[/editline] EOS 500 D has a crop factor of 1.6 so you are losing a great deal on wide angle lenses. To get pictures like 18mm you'd need a 11,25mm lens. Or do you mean the film one?
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