• From FOX News: Women are becoming "too alpha" for love
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[QUOTE]In an op-ed that could have easily been published half a century ago, author Suzanne Venker argues that women who are not "feminine creatures" are unable to be the wives their husbands wish they were. The central thesis is simple: women should be subservient to their husbands. "Women have become too much like men," she writes. "They're too competitive. Too masculine. Too alpha." Venker's column continues to vastly oversimplify the differences between men and women. "All a good man wants is for his wife to be happy, and he will go to great lengths to make it happen," Venker asserts. "He'll even support his wife's ideas, plans or opinions if he doesn't agree with them. That's because a husband's number one goal is to please his wife." This paragraph is particularly mind-numbing: "Men are just so much simpler than women. Not simple as in dumb, as is often portrayed in the media. Simple in that they have far fewer needs than women do. What men want most of all is respect, companionship and sex. If you supply these basics, your husband will do anything for you — slay the dragons, kill the beast, work three jobs, etc. Men will happily do this if, and only if, they are loved well in return. It is when men are not loved well that problems arise. That is the nature of the male-female dance." [/QUOTE] [url]www.popsugar.com/news/Fox-News-Alpha-Woman-Op-Ed-43149018/[/url] [url]http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/08/society-is-creating-new-crop-alpha-women-who-are-unable-to-love.html[/url]
[I]What...?[/I]
but im a nice guy :( [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] why dont females love me? [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] they're all fucking stupid bitches [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] females need to be submissive to their husbands [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] Fuck chads and the sluts who follow them
[quote] What men want most of all is respect, companionship and sex. If you supply these basics, your husband will do anything for you[/quote] Shallow ones might, otherwise not so much.
it's true though, just not specifically with women. everyone's too abrasive and needs to chill the fuck out.
A woman wrote this, right? Maybe she's more of a housewife type of person and that's totally fine, but trying to slamdunk every single woman on the planet into that is not k. I don't think it's meant to be a commentary on men vs. women or women vs. men, more of a "what happened to the typical family with the stay-at-home mom raising ya boys and the dad fucking riddling himself with work" setup.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51805362]Shallow ones might, otherwise not so much.[/QUOTE] Sounds like a pretty shitty relationship if any of those are missing from it. However, I don't think being submissive or feminine is required to have that in a relationship.
Remember folks, we can't have Islamic conservative mysoginistic views in our countries. Instead, we need Western conservative mysoginistic views in our countries. Those are clearly better. I plan on letting my wife wear socks while she's pregnant. Take that Islam!
[QUOTE=Downsider;51805369]it's true though, just not specifically with women. everyone's too abrasive and needs to chill the fuck out.[/QUOTE] What? Did you read at all?
No shit people want to have happy relationships, I'd say most of the times there are conflicts, it's more about the lack of communication and having trouble coming to a consensus rather than women not acting submissive to men.
[QUOTE=Downsider;51805369]it's true though, just not specifically with women. everyone's too abrasive and needs to chill the fuck out.[/QUOTE] Nah.
[quote]What men want most of all is respect, companionship and sex. If you supply these basics, your husband will do anything for you[/quote] Yeah, it's a tad more complicated than that.
[QUOTE=Aldawolf;51805356]but im a nice guy :( [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] why dont females love me? [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] they're all fucking stupid bitches [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] females need to be submissive to their husbands [editline]10th February 2017[/editline] Fuck chads and the sluts who follow them[/QUOTE] if I own a katana and read roosh v then I become an alpha and women will hang off me like barnacles.
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I'm a firm believer that personalities and the way people would prefer to live have always varied wildly and that slow acceptance of certain preferences has led to more people doing what they actually want. [QUOTE]"Women have become too much like men," she writes. "They're too competitive. Too masculine. Too alpha."[/QUOTE] You're only seeing people who want to be this way popping up because now they're allowed to. I'm sure there will always be plenty of women who are okay with being a stay at home mom.
This sounds like it was written by a conservative teenager who understands very little about real relationships and how they actually work.
I guess gay relationships can't work if they're both alpha!
I just want a woman who'll be open and honest with me, communicate her problems, fears and doubts because relationships are all a little give and a little take and if they're entirely one sided they don't work.
Alpha women.. dude what? I mean the whole alpha beta thing in general is fucking retarded but holy shit lmao.
TL;DR: 3.5 billion autonomous individuals, each with their own perception of the world and life experiences, should be required to adhere to some arbitrary traditional standard because covert narcissists are having a harder time getting laid than ever before.
[QUOTE=Gwoodman;51805450]No shit people want to have happy relationships, I'd say most of the times there are conflicts, it's more about the lack of communication and having trouble coming to a consensus rather than women not acting submissive to men.[/QUOTE] This. And I think a lot of that lack of communication which leads to conflict also has a lot to do with the way our culture is, at least as far as the United States is concerned. On average, we're looking at divorce rates somewhere in the range of 40-50%; according to my old social psych professor (I ran into her the other day, and we talked for a while), that statistic is actually closer to 60%. The point is that it's really fucking high. Unnecessarily high. It's not uncommon at all for people to get married, then get divorced, then get married again... etc. This kind of behavior is not sustainable, and it has impacts beyond the couple. If they have children, then their kids grow up in this kind of environment, and then they tend to go on to repeat the mistakes of their parents. After all, their parents are the people that they learn the most from when it comes to behavior and social interaction. If they don't set a good example, it's not surprising this outcome repeats itself from generation to generation. To them, this kind of behavioral pattern is normal. It's kind of like how child abuse survivors can tend to show a preference in relationships for partners that are bad for them and who abuse them; again, that's the way things are supposed to be in their minds... that's what normal is to them. On top of that, you also have to consider the fact that we're a very narcissistic society. You'll hear various informal terms be tossed around about this in the sociological and psychological communities: "the me generation", "the narcissism epidemic", "the age of entitlement", etc. While there's various opinions on just how far it extends (in other words, how bad it actually is), the common consensus is that it has in fact gotten worse over the last few decades and is continuing to get worse-- especially now with the rise of social media and the dependence which millions of people have on it (to find sex, mental stimulation, social validation, etc.). This has manifested itself in different ways: an increase in narcissistic traits (low empathy and less concern for the welfare of others, materialism, extreme self-centeredness, unrealistic expectations, etc.), and decreased collectivism compared to six or seven decades ago and increased individualism (which isn't necessarily a bad thing but is not a wholly good thing either) for example. So basically you've got a bunch of emotionally-immature people with no idea of what a relationship actually takes running around wanting their own way (which more often than not comes at somebody else's expense) and craving sex, companionship, etc. like pretty much every other advanced animal. It's a recipe for bullshit drama and failure. This isn't "alpha" behavior, and anybody who studies nature and has a reasonable grasp on the dynamics of animals understands this. It's just stupidity and worthlessness. Respect each other, don't lie or cheat, listen to each other, work with each other. It's supposed to be a relationship, not a routine. Cooperation. That's literally all it takes to make things work. The problem is there's a lot of people out there who aren't willing to do stuff that's even this basic, both men as well as women.
It might just be where I am but the majority of women I see on my campus basically just do whatever the fuck they want to and if it hurts someone, even someone they've been dating for years they can either get over it or break up (and power to you, girl!) It's pretty messed up, this is just one anecdotal story but a guy I knew had been dating this girl for 3 years and she decided to fuck an older, buffer guy and when he said he had a problem with that, [I]she[/I] broke up with [I]him[/I], claiming that [I]he[/I] did something wrong by restricting her freedom. She then proceeded to get butt pats by anyone that considered themselves half progressive. It was pretty disgusting.
[QUOTE=Lolkork;51805403]:speechless: She should move to the IS, she'll find a lot of like-minded people.[/QUOTE] More like r/incel
How is this an issue, women know what they want why shouldn't they be more assertive about it
This sounds like it comes from the sort of woman who indignantly records an FB video, saying that "No, women marching, you don't speak for me! We already have our rights! Stop protesting!"
This is what people mean when they discuss "internal misogyny", pretty blatant case of it. You can be against your own interest group as any class of people. If she wants to live this way she is free to do so, but acting like she's an authority on it over others is gross.
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51806381]It might just be where I am but the majority of women I see on my campus basically just do whatever the fuck they want to and if it hurts someone, even someone they've been dating for years they can either get over it or break up (and power to you, girl!) It's pretty messed up, this is just one anecdotal story but a guy I knew had been dating this girl for 3 years and she decided to fuck an older, buffer guy and when he said he had a problem with that, [I]she[/I] broke up with [I]him[/I], claiming that [I]he[/I] did something wrong by restricting her freedom. She then proceeded to get butt pats by anyone that considered themselves half progressive. It was pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE] Its probably just where you are. That really sucks for your friend, but I highly doubt this leniency towards women expressing their freedom by infidelity is a common attitude among the progressive left. As a student at a liberal arts college I can say none of my friends would find that cool at least.
thus begins the [B]BETA UPRISING[/B]
[QUOTE=Radical_ed;51806381]It might just be where I am but the majority of women I see on my campus basically just do whatever the fuck they want to and if it hurts someone, even someone they've been dating for years they can either get over it or break up (and power to you, girl!) It's pretty messed up, this is just one anecdotal story but a guy I knew had been dating this girl for 3 years and she decided to fuck an older, buffer guy and when he said he had a problem with that, [I]she[/I] broke up with [I]him[/I], claiming that [I]he[/I] did something wrong by restricting her freedom. She then proceeded to get butt pats by anyone that considered themselves half progressive. It was pretty disgusting.[/QUOTE] that's just being a shitty person imo, I would actually consider the guy lucky that he didn't marry her before she did that. while it's more acceptable for women to sleep around these days, I've never really heard of cheating being celebrated other than sort of agreed upon cheating like open relationships, cuckolding, that stuff. I really think that people nowadays have a much longer growing up period than people from just half a century ago because of the normalization of going to college and stuff like that. There's no more pressure to find a wife or anything like that, at least while you're in college, and the sexual revolution of the 60s + feminism makes it socially okay to have sex when not married, at least in the North where I live. Part of that longer growing up period is experimenting with relationships and such instead of settling for your first relationship. However, when you combine this situation with extreme self centeredness, you get the situation described above. People who are left out (mostly males with mild to severe social disabilities) are left watching everyone else fuck like rabbits and this creates the attitude that leads to incels. Both sleeping around and a combination of the worst traits that immature people have combined with the permissive sexual culture creates these situations.
[QUOTE=rndgenerator;51805362]Shallow ones might, otherwise not so much.[/QUOTE] Hey man, all I want is video games.
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