• 6,000 or more new recruits join IS
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Sauce: [url]http://www.thehindu.com/news/international/world/over-6000-fighters-joined-the-islamic-state-in-july-alone/article6333733.ece[/url] [quote]A total of 6,300 rebel fighters joined the Islamic State (IS) militant group in July alone, the Syrian Observatory for Human Rights reported has said. The Observatory on Tuesday said 6,300 fighters had joined the training camps of the group in Syria’s northern provinces of al-Raqqa and Aleppo, Xinhua reported. Among them, 5,000 recruits are Syrians, the Observatory said, adding that the rest are newly-recruited fighters.[/quote] Oh goody, more recruits for the grinding mill.
We need to put these bastards down. Now.
I don't like this and I want it to stop.
Haha it's like they handed out a sign up sheet and asked "who wants everyone to hate you, and will eventually kill you?"
They also get paid a fair bit for anybody who didn't read the article: [quote]It said that the IS pays a single Syrian fighter $400 a month. In case of married militants, their kids and spouses also get paid. As for fighters from overseas, they have a monthly pay of $800 dollars.[/quote]
It's really sad to see how vile and delusional some people are, and how people still can buy into the rethorics IS is shitting out.
i guess that makes 6,000 more to kill then
Goddamnit, this is not good.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45745438]They also get paid a fair bit for anybody who didn't read the article:[/QUOTE] that's concerning, that means a fair few of them would be in IS not because they want to, but because their family needs to eat somehow.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45745438]They also get paid a fair bit for anybody who didn't read the article:[quote]It said that the IS pays a single Syrian fighter $400 a month. In case of married militants, their kids and spouses also get paid. As for fighters from overseas, they have a monthly pay of $800 dollars.[/quote][/QUOTE] There's no way they have enough income to sustain that kind of pay, that's $2,520,000 minimum for the people who just joined up. Throw in the existing 7,000 fighters (low estimate), and you get a minimum of $5,320,000 add in families and foreigners, and it could easily be tens of millions each month. There's just no way they can sustain that kind of payment.
[QUOTE=Samiam22;45745658]that's concerning, that means a fair few of them would be in IS not because they want to, but because their family needs to eat somehow.[/QUOTE] The foreign fighters don't need to join an overseas terrorist organisation to feed their families, nor do the Syrian fighters. It's either ideology or greed, not physical necessity.
They stole half a billion dollars in a single bank heist some months ago. This is to say nothing of other funds or loot that they've stolen.
so this is about 10 times worse than when saddam was still around.
I've never seen a more jingoistic Facepunch when it comes to these threads. [QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45745438]They also get paid a fair bit for anybody who didn't read the article:[/QUOTE] Which is why they'll join up, they're actually getting paid, they can shelter and feed their families in a time without that support in place. They've probably lost someone to the "infidels" as well, whether it be the Syrian Army, Peshmerga and/or American Drone Strikes; they join up out of revenge and to feed their families. Don't want to break Godwin's Law straight away, but it's like Nazism, "Arbeit und Brot" and all of that. People are willing to believe in a cause if it protects them. [editline]20th August 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Antdawg;45745701]The foreign fighters don't need to join an overseas terrorist organisation to feed their families, nor do the Syrian fighters. It's either ideology or greed, not physical necessity.[/QUOTE] true as well and most of them are the worse of the lot, being in it for profit.
I doubt they'll beat Assad's forces considering Assad still has the equipment, troops and support in Syria
hopefully teams will auto-balance soon :/
all of which will die within the next 2 years, at the most
I assume they're paying them so much because they have a short life expectancy.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45745697]There's no way they have enough income to sustain that kind of pay, that's $2,520,000 minimum for the people who just joined up. Throw in the existing 7,000 fighters (low estimate), and you get a minimum of $5,320,000 add in families and foreigners, and it could easily be tens of millions each month. There's just no way they can sustain that kind of payment.[/QUOTE] It all runs on blood money .. besides I'll say its just propaganda to get new recruits. Its properly just "Steal from whoever you kill, besides us". Just wait until their funds get low and they start to kill each other, because "they have more right to the money".
If they tried to do that their leaders would probably execute them.
[QUOTE=Zonesylvania;45745897]If they tried to do that their leaders would probably execute them.[/QUOTE] Leaders tent to be illoyal when funds are low. Usual goes with: "I can run this better than x". You can see this with nearly any gang.
I hope they all die a slow, painful death.
[QUOTE=Miskav;45745926]I hope they all die a slow, painful death.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hamsteronfire;45745722]I've never seen a more jingoistic Facepunch when it comes to these threads.[/QUOTE] case in point
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45745697]There's no way they have enough income to sustain that kind of pay, that's $2,520,000 minimum for the people who just joined up. Throw in the existing 7,000 fighters (low estimate), and you get a minimum of $5,320,000 add in families and foreigners, and it could easily be tens of millions each month. There's just no way they can sustain that kind of payment.[/QUOTE] They're the richest terrorist organisation in the world. They can afford it.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;45745697]There's no way they have enough income to sustain that kind of pay, that's $2,520,000 minimum for the people who just joined up. Throw in the existing 7,000 fighters (low estimate), and you get a minimum of $5,320,000 add in families and foreigners, and it could easily be tens of millions each month. There's just no way they can sustain that kind of payment.[/QUOTE] They rapidly reaching the point when they won't be just a terrorist organization that's in control of a bunch of territories, but a country - which is their goal. They can easily support their fighters.
Hahahahaha. They're all going to get fucking slaughtered, just wait.
[QUOTE=Stopper;45746201]They rapidly reaching the point when they won't be just a terrorist organization that's in control of a bunch of territories, but a country - which is their goal. They can easily support their fighters.[/QUOTE] They are already identifying as a sovereign body.
One thing that baffles me is how when Syrian war started FP was always on rebel's side even tho there were countless rouge organizations on their side. Even if we presume that rebels won early against Assad, do you seriously think that place would suddenly become democratic and western oriented country? The power vacuum would still be there, and there is no way in hell that organization as big as ISIS appeared after the civil war began. Call me silly or whatever, but FP likes to moan how Russia is evil yet refuses to accept the fact that p much any place US and West went to turned from decent state into wartorn shithole. You can look at the Libya which you were so happy about as well, it's nothing but a mere shadow of it's past state now. I'm fairly certain if Assad won early on that there would be no way ISIS would get this big nor would this many innocent people die.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;45746455]One thing that baffles me is how when Syrian war started FP was always on rebel's side even tho there were countless rouge organizations on their side. Even if we presume that rebels won early against Assad, do you seriously think that place would suddenly become democratic and western oriented country? The power vacuum would still be there, and there is no way in hell that organization as big as ISIS appeared after the civil war began. Call me silly or whatever, but FP likes to moan how Russia is evil yet refuses to accept the fact that p much any place US and West went to turned from decent state into wartorn shithole. You can look at the Libya which you were so happy about as well, it's nothing but a mere shadow of it's past state now. I'm fairly certain if Assad won early on that there would be no way ISIS would get this big nor would this many innocent people die.[/QUOTE] I don't get that opinion with israel and palestine either, are palestine a benevolent nation of peace-loving übermensch that would never willingly fight a cultural group they don't like?
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;45746455]One thing that baffles me is how when Syrian war started FP was always on rebel's side even tho there were countless rouge organizations on their side. Even if we presume that rebels won early against Assad, do you seriously think that place would suddenly become democratic and western oriented country? The power vacuum would still be there, and there is no way in hell that organization as big as ISIS appeared after the civil war began. Call me silly or whatever, but FP likes to moan how Russia is evil yet refuses to accept the fact that p much any place US and West went to turned from decent state into wartorn shithole. You can look at the Libya which you were so happy about as well, it's nothing but a mere shadow of it's past state now. I'm fairly certain if Assad won early on that there would be no way ISIS would get this big nor would this many innocent people die.[/QUOTE] Guess we should stop fighting IS then.
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