BREAKING: Mozilla CEO Brendan Eich resigns amids anti-gay controversy
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Courtasy of The Verge:
[QUOTE]Less than two weeks after he was appointed Mozilla CEO, Brendan Eich resigned today amid a controversy stemming from his $1,000 donation to an anti-gay marriage ballot proposition in California. "Mozilla prides itself on being held to a different standard and, this past week, we didn't live up to it. We know why people are hurt and angry, and they are right: it's because we haven't stayed true to ourselves," the company said in a blog post. "We didn't act like you'd expect Mozilla to act. We didn't move fast enough to engage with people once the controversy started. We're sorry. We must do better."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE]Ultimately, the company decided that the protesters were right. "It's clear that Brendan cannot lead Mozilla in this setting," Mitchell Baker, Mozilla's executive chairwoman, told Recode. "The ability to lead — particularly for the CEO — is fundamental to the role and that is not possible here." The company has not decided who will now fill the CEO job, she said. The company interviewed 25 candidates before settling on Eich last month.[/QUOTE]
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[url]https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2014/04/03/brendan-eich-steps-down-as-mozilla-ceo/[/url]
[url]http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/3/5578984/mozilla-ceo-resigns-amid-controversy-over-donation-to-anti-gay[/url]
Wow. Two weeks of pressure and he quit?
Does anyone else find that super strange? I'm sure there was a fair bit of pressure over his actions but I'm just finding him actually resigning over it really strange.
Well, hopefully people can move on to something else now, like the terrible multi-tab Firefox performance in linux. This whole reaction was ridiculous and forced.
A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
this is a very good point, however wrong it feels
Even though I disagree with him it seems a little extreme that he's been forced to step down.
Are people still going to use Javascript despite it being made by someone who donated to something 6 years ago?
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to keep a job today ?[/QUOTE]
There's a difference between having a belief and enforcing it on others. By giving money to an organisation which may use it to lobby anti-gay laws, he is supporting the oppression of gays - bit different than just believing it's wrong.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need too be pro-gay to keep a job today ?[/QUOTE]
He was forced to resign because he worked towards infringing people's rights.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.
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[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
It's about Mozilla as a whole feeling that it hurts their image, as the company wants to come off as tolerant.
When your front-figure is against gay marriage, it has an impact on the company.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
IMO this is different. If the CEO is against something the company it self promotes that is a really big issue
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442030]liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.[/QUOTE]
There is a difference between free speech and paying to support laws that would oppress people.
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442030]liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.[/QUOTE]
Speech is one thing, cash is another.
Edit: Despite what the US SC thinks.
Some people fail to realise that this guy wasn't just "meh, I don't like those gays". He was actively supporting a bill that denies them equal rights. Not really acceptable or good rep for a company, so I'm glad he's gone.
EDIT: And now I'm late, point still stands though.
[QUOTE=benjojo;44442042]IMO this is different. If the CEO is against something the company it self promotes that is a really big issue[/QUOTE]
Software organizations don't need to take a stance on gay marriage at all.
[QUOTE=Egevened;44442006]this is a very good point, however wrong it feels[/QUOTE]
Not really, public opinion has ALWAYS dictated which businesses do well, and that's how it should be. This is how things change. I don't know if this guy deserved this or not because I don't know him, but to say that this is unilaterally wrong is just dumb. This is how the US works man, when the status quo is something that is objectively wrong(like saying gay people can't get married because fuck them) then other companies and the people who use your service have the right to force you out. That's how it fucking works.
It's not like the government stepped in and kicked him out for his beliefs. He had a backwards harmful belief, which he supported through a donation, and because of that his peers presumably forced him out.
Honestly surprised he quit. Guess there must have been internal pressure not just him choosing it.
If I were him I wouldn't have but who knows what was going on there. Business and politics/beliefs should be separate. This guy wasn't employing slave labour or something.
[QUOTE=Durrsly;44442048]There is a difference between free speech and paying to support laws that would oppress people.[/QUOTE]
Gay are not currently given the same legal status and benefits as others in some areas but hardly oppressed.
[QUOTE=toaster468;44442030]liberals only like free speech when it supports their agenda.[/QUOTE]
Yes, because the liberals totally legislated him out of his CEO position. They didn't just speak their minds and he resigned under the pressure from the company and public.
[QUOTE=gokiyono;44442011]Are people still going to use Javascript despite it being made by someone who donated to something 6 years ago?[/QUOTE]
What does this post even mean. That's the most vague thing I've ever heard.
Oh, sure, everyone should stop using Javascript this very moment. Why? Oh, because the guy who made it donated to something 6 years ago. Yeah that makes sense.
Heck, we should stop buying Sony products, I heard the CEO once put something in a fridge.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, but being an asshole may negatively affect your work! Seriously, he has rights to believe what he wants, but everyone else has the right to call them out on it as well. Bigotry is something that should always be strongly opposed.
[QUOTE=The golden;44442069]You no longer fall under the protection of free speech when you are actively supporting the removal of human rights.[/QUOTE]
Marriage isn't a right and never was.
So pretty much, everyone will support you if you have an opinion that is popular but as soon as you differ from that opinion everyone will hate you?
[QUOTE=paul simon;44442082]What does this post even mean. That's the most vague thing I've ever heard.
Oh, sure, everyone should stop using Javascript this very moment. Why? Oh, because the guy who made it donated to something 6 years ago. Yeah that makes sense.
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Eich made JavaScript.
ahh finally
the walls of bigotry
have collapsed
let us rejoice
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44442097]So pretty much, everyone will support you if you have an opinion that is popular but as soon as you differ from that opinion everyone will hate you?[/QUOTE]
If by "differ" you mean "I wan't to remove your human rights because we aren't the same"
[QUOTE=Svinnik;44442097]So pretty much, everyone will support you if you have an opinion that is popular but as soon as you differ from that opinion everyone will hate you?[/QUOTE]
It isn't just an opinion, he donated money towards anti-gay laws.
He was the CEO of a Pro-LGBT company.
[QUOTE=AntonioR;44441995]A person was forced to resign because of his beliefs. You need to be pro-gay to run a company today ?[/QUOTE]
Mozilla is known to be a pro-LGBT establishment. Having someone against LGBT rights was guaranteed to cause a huge outcry in this case.
[QUOTE=rhx123;44442016]There's a difference between having a belief and enforcing it on others. By giving money to an organisation which may use it to lobby anti-gay laws, he is supporting the oppression of gays - bit different than just believing it's wrong.[/QUOTE]
Also this.
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