• Trump Administration Won’t Withdraw from Paris Climate Deal, EU Official Says
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[B]U.S. has stated it will ‘not renegotiate the Paris accord’ but will review its terms[/B] [quote]NEW YORK—Trump administration officials said Saturday the U.S. wouldn’t pull out of the Paris Agreement, offering to re-engage in the international deal to fight climate change, according to the European Union’s top energy official. The shift from President Donald Trump’s decision in June to withdraw to renegotiate the landmark accord or craft a new deal came during a meeting of more than 30 ministers led by Canada, China and the European Union in Montreal.[/quote] [quote][I]“The U.S. has stated that they will not renegotiate the Paris accord, but they will try to review the terms on which they could be engaged under this agreement,”[/I] European Commissioner for Climate Action and Energy Miguel Arias Cañete said. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.[/quote] [url]https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-wont-withdraw-from-paris-climate-deal-1505593922[/url] Well, that's good I suppose. I mean there's no punishment for not doing the things you're supposed to in the agreement, so we can still sign it and then just not do anything, but at least we'll be in it. This is a rollercoaster. :wow:
Color me confused. :huh:
What is even going on anymore, someone pinch me and wake me from this fever dream This is good at least
I think Donald's aching so badly for good press he's looking at the things that hurt him the most and reversing course. Pulling out of Paris drew global condemnation, even more than bombing Syria did.
Probably because someone told the giant baby that it would be a bad idea to pull out.
November 3rd 2019: The next president is elected November 4th 2019: Trump can officially withdraw from the Paris Accords to be fair, he could totally do it just to spite his opponent, but the net effect would be moot since the next president could just re-sign us up
After the beating America took and is still sort of taking from the amplified weather patterns, I bet it changed a lot of minds, including this idiots mind. Hopefully he actually does something right for once and follows the Climate deal to the letter.
There is this, though: [url]http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/351028-trump-softens-stance-on-paris-climate-deal-reports[/url] I feel like Mr. Miguel Arias Cañete may have said something the administration wanted to keep quiet about while they prod for leverage of some sort.
Oh man if this turns out to be true, wonder what the reaction from his base will be. Probably how this was all planned
[QUOTE=EskillV2;52688061]Probably because someone told that it would be a bad idea to pull out.[/QUOTE] if only donald's dad wasn't told that
[media]https://twitter.com/danpfeiffer/status/909159589421113345[/media] Well since the quoted tweet doesn't show, it is talking about how the white house is saying the story is not true
Anyone notice that Trump has been flipping a lot of his hardcore stances the moment Bannon left the White House?
[QUOTE=EskillV2;52688061]Probably because someone told the giant baby that it would be a bad idea to pull out.[/QUOTE] That, and he realizes that there's really nothing committing to any action whatsoever within the Accord. There are no terms to renegotiate, because there's literally no enforcement for not abiding by it. It's essentially an honor system. Officially reversing his position to withdraw from the accord lets soothe some of the outrage among the centrists and political left, while he can simply enact a policy of total noncompliance to keep his lobbyists happy.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;52688058]I think Donald's aching so badly for good press he's looking at the things that hurt him the most and reversing course. Pulling out of Paris drew global condemnation, even more than bombing Syria did.[/QUOTE] Trump is Bernie after all! [editline]16th September 2017[/editline] /s
Only after a slight modification, it's now called the "Trump Climate Act".
Trump is now playing nth dimensional chess with so many layers and dimensions that it can no longer be put into human understandable terms.
[QUOTE=TheMrFailz;52688735]Trump is now playing nth dimensional chess with so many layers and dimensions that it can no longer be put into human understandable terms.[/QUOTE] is that what you call it when he's flipped the table and spilled the board on the ground.
[QUOTE=Sableye;52688755]is that what you call it when he's flipped the table and spilled the board on the ground.[/QUOTE] I did say that it couldn't be put into human understandable terms.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;52688680]Anyone notice that Trump has been flipping a lot of his hardcore stances the moment Bannon left the White House?[/QUOTE] Its fairly obvious that Trump is incapable of making any decisions himself, deferring instead to support whatever the last adviser he spoke to told him. With Bannon gone and presumably more sane people left, he'll probably start to flip flop as other points of view are presented to him.
[QUOTE=RainbowStalin;52690025]Its fairly obvious that Trump is incapable of making any decisions himself, deferring instead to support whatever the last adviser he spoke to told him. With Bannon gone and presumably more sane people left, he'll probably start to flip flop as other points of view are presented to him.[/QUOTE] I disagree. He's flipping because he's finally aware of the noose of the Mueller probe even as it tightens around his neck, and he's finally trying to make some friends in Congress. Too little, too late.
[QUOTE]Donald Trump is open to staying in the Paris accord on climate change, his secretary of state has said, just hours after the White House insisted there would be "no change" to US policy. Rex Tillerson said the US would stay in the agreement "if we can construct a set of terms that we believe is fair". [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41300036[/url] :scream:
[QUOTE=archangel125;52690048]I disagree. He's flipping because he's finally aware of the noose of the Mueller probe even as it tightens around his neck, and he's finally trying to make some friends in Congress. Too little, too late.[/QUOTE] That would imply Trump is self aware and believes he is capable of failing. And I genuinely don't believe he is. As far as Trump is concerned his administration is doing great. I mean it has to be doing great if hes in charge, right?
Next, we won't get any kind of wall at all. Oh Trump... You really don't know what you're doing.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;52690957]Next, we won't get any kind of wall at all. Oh Trump... You really don't know what you're doing.[/QUOTE] Hell maybe he'll look into realistic ways at lowering rates of illegal immigration such as improving life in Mexico, improving the systems of becoming a legal citizen, or improving the travel visa system. Perhaps he'll lower crime rates by improving police training, increase requirements for employment in police forces, legally punish cops who performed criminal actions, and call his pardon of Arpaio a mistake. Maybe he'll end the war on drugs by pushing for legalization and regulation of various drugs. I doubt it until he makes great changes in how he himself talks on policies and understanding conflicts
[QUOTE=Morgen;52690872][url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-41300036[/url] :scream:[/QUOTE] "we want to renegotiate this non negotiable non binding not treaty"
[QUOTE=AnnieOakley;52690982]Hell maybe he'll look into realistic ways at lowering rates of illegal immigration such as improving life in Mexico, improving the systems of becoming a legal citizen, or improving the travel visa system. Perhaps he'll lower crime rates by improving police training, increase requirements for employment in police forces, legally punish cops who performed criminal actions, and call his pardon of Arpaio a mistake. Maybe he'll end the war on drugs by pushing for legalization and regulation of various drugs. I doubt it until he makes great changes in how he himself talks on policies and understanding conflicts[/QUOTE] Imagine if by the end of his term, he was actually one of the best presidents Woah...
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