Kushner used private email to conduct White House business - Polidicks

[url]http://www.politico.com/story/2017/09/24/jared-kushner-private-email-white-house-243071[/url] [quote]Presidential son-in-law and senior adviser Jared Kushner has corresponded with other administration officials about White House matters through a private email account set up during the transition last December, part of a larger pattern of Trump administration aides using personal email accounts for government business. Kushner uses his private account alongside his official White House email account, sometimes trading emails with senior White House officials, outside advisers and others about media coverage, event planning and other subjects, according to four people familiar with the correspondence. POLITICO has seen and verified about two dozen emails. “Mr. Kushner uses his White House email address to conduct White House business,” Abbe Lowell, a lawyer for Kushner, said in a statement Sunday. “Fewer than 100 emails from January through August were either sent to or returned by Mr. Kushner to colleagues in the White House from his personal email account. These usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal rather than his White House address.” Aides who have exchanged emails with Kushner on his private account since President Donald Trump took office in January include former chief of staff Reince Priebus, former chief strategist Steve Bannon, National Economic Council director Gary Cohn, and spokesman Josh Raffel, according to emails described to or shown to POLITICO. In some cases, those White House officials have emailed Kushner’s account first, said people familiar with the messages. The decision to set up new, private accounts as Kushner was preparing to enter the White House came in the wake of a bitter election campaign in which Trump routinely excoriated his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton for using a personal email account to handle government business when she was secretary of state. There is no indication that Kushner has shared any sensitive or classified material on his private account, or that he relies on his private email account more than his official White House account to conduct government business. Aides say he prefers to call or text over using email.[/quote]

Bush junior did it as well. Basically it's alright to use your own private email server as long as you're not Hillary. In her case, lock her up. Nevermind the fact that the entire bush administration circumvented the very surveillance system they enacted by opting to use their private emails and then when they were found out deleted as many as 22 million emails.

I trust that the GOP voters will want the Trump Administration to hold Kushner (and Pence, as previously discovered) to the same rigorous standards that they held Crooked Hillary to over her own email scandal. Surely they actually care about these issues, and they didn't just use emails as a heavily partisan excuse to lambaste a democratic candidate in the election.

I believe iphones and androids are shit at integrating with government email services. Thats why literally everyone in Washington uses private email servers.

I'm [I]sure[/I] that the people who were calling for Hillary to be executed for doing this will hold Kushner to the same standards. :rolleyes:

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;52714278]I'm [I]sure[/I] that the people who were calling for Hillary to be executed for doing this will hold Kushner to the same standards. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE] [quote="OP"]There is no indication that Kushner has shared any sensitive or classified material on his private account ... [the e-mails consisted of] news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an email to his personal rather than his White House address[/quote] Meanwhile [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/06/hillary-clinton/fbi-findings-tear-holes-hillary-clintons-email-def/"]Hillary sent over 100 classified e-mails using her personal e-mail[/URL] There's a good reason people were calling for action against Hillary, don't try to play it off like she's anywhere close to Kushner's situation. Her predicament is on a whole different level.

So is this like me giving professors my gmail instead of the email the campus system gave me? Are politicians expected to never use their own private emails ever again once in office? Or does the contents and recipients of the email matter?

[QUOTE=OvB;52714313]So is this like me giving professors my gmail instead of the email the campus system gave me? Are politicians expected to never use their own private emails ever again once in office? Or does the contents and recipients of the email matter?[/QUOTE] Correspondence between federal officials needs to be archived under recordkeeping and FOIA laws. Using private email servers gets you away from oversight because only e.g. the whitehouse.gov email server is attached to the archiving rack, not [email]jKUSH77@hotmail.com[/email] or whatever. It's why it was considered a big deal when Hillary did it, although she and her staff provably used unsecured email for classified documents. [I]So far[/I] there's no evidence Kushner used non-classified email services for classified material.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52714306]Meanwhile [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/06/hillary-clinton/fbi-findings-tear-holes-hillary-clintons-email-def/"]Hillary sent over 100 classified e-mails using her personal e-mail[/URL] There's a good reason people were calling for action against Hillary, don't try to play it off like she's anywhere close to Kushner's situation. Her predicament is on a whole different level.[/QUOTE] It's still hypocritical as fuck

[QUOTE=Lambeth;52714418]It's still hypocritical as fuck[/QUOTE] How is it hypocritical exactly? There's zero reason it would be hypocritical as he's done nothing worthy of criticizing outside of having a personal e-mail which he uses for idle banter between colleagues.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52714306]Meanwhile [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/06/hillary-clinton/fbi-findings-tear-holes-hillary-clintons-email-def/"]Hillary sent over 100 classified e-mails using her personal e-mail[/URL] There's a good reason people were calling for action against Hillary, don't try to play it off like she's anywhere close to Kushner's situation. Her predicament is on a whole different level.[/QUOTE] Only two of the emails were marked classified. According to your own source; [QUOTE] "If it had been marked as classified and she or her staff transmitted it through non-secure email anyway, that would have been an overt violation of procedures," Aftergood said. "If it wasn't marked as classified, then it could easily have been handled in good faith as unclassified."[/QUOTE] Additionally [QUOTE]"The decision to mark a document is more art than science and leads to bureaucratic in-fighting on whether something should be classified or not," said Gary Bass, Bauman Foundation executive director and former director of OMB Watch, a government accountability organization. Also, transparency advocates say the government regularly classifies more than it needs to. The government classifies incorrectly 70 percent of the time, according to the Interagency Security Classification Appeals Panel. Thomas Blanton, director of the National Security Archive at George Washington University said some of the classified material the FBI identified might not be particularly sensitive." There is not a line in any of Mrs. Clinton's emails that meets the smell test of classification, which is their release would be damaging to our national security," he said. Given these concerns, it’s reasonable to give Clinton a little benefit of the doubt regarding how she treated classified information that landed in her inbox unlabeled, said Steven Aftergood, director of the Project on Government Secrecy at the Federation of American Scientists.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52714427]How is it hypocritical exactly? There's zero reason it would be hypocritical as he's done nothing worthy of criticizing outside of having a personal e-mail which he uses for idle banter between colleagues.[/QUOTE] If I recall correctly, we only found out that some of the emails that Clinton sent were classified after an investigation. An investigation that was initiated because some people were concerned that Clinton may have sent classified information on a unsecure network. For some reason, I'm not getting the same amount of concern from the republican party.

Okay, wasn't the big issue with Hillay using a personal email because she was having emails forwarded from a secure, private government/military email server (unclassified and classified it doesn't matter) to her personal (public and insecure) email? Is that what Kushner is doing here as well? If that's the case that is fucking hilarious.

[QUOTE=WitheredGryphon;52714306]Meanwhile [URL="http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/jul/06/hillary-clinton/fbi-findings-tear-holes-hillary-clintons-email-def/"]Hillary sent over 100 classified e-mails using her personal e-mail[/URL] There's a good reason people were calling for action against Hillary, don't try to play it off like she's anywhere close to Kushner's situation. Her predicament is on a whole different level.[/QUOTE] It's only serious when it's classified information. I don't see this as a problem.

When classified information is mishandled by a grunt, they get severely punished, but when it's handled by a high ranking official, it's just politics.

[QUOTE=Raidyr;52714722]Only two of the emails were marked classified. According to your own source; Additionally[/QUOTE] Only two were [B]marked[/B] at the time they were sent. Please read before trying to take stuff out of context. [quote]In total, the investigation found 110 emails in 52 email chains containing information that was classified at the time it was sent or received. Eight chains contained top secret information, the highest level of classification, 36 chains contained secret information, and the remaining eight contained confidential information.[/quote] [editline]Edited: [/editline] [QUOTE=Lambeth;52714827]If I recall correctly, we only found out that some of the emails that Clinton sent were classified after an investigation. An investigation that was initiated because some people were concerned that Clinton may have sent classified information on a unsecure network. For some reason, I'm not getting the same amount of concern from the republican party.[/QUOTE] The investigation was launched because sensitive information was detected in the initial search of the emails. This was compounded by the fact it was during the elections, so pressure was placed on the FBI to expedite investigation procedures. You can plug your ears and hear what you want to hear, but until otherwise stated, the guy has literally done nothing but use his personal e-mail for personal affairs and chat. [editline]Edited: [/editline] Since some people don't understand what being "marked" as classified means, let me demonstrate real quick. [quote="Example Unmarked E-mail"] This would be an unmarked e-mail containing classified information. This e-mail would not contribute to the total e-mails that were actually "marked" classified; however, it would contribute to the total amount of e-mails containing classified information. [/quote] [quote="Example Marked E-mail"] TOP SECRET//NOFORN//RD U - This is a marked e-mail, and details exactly what types of classified information are stored within it through indicated markings. This section would be "unclassified." TS//NF - Similarly, you can include different levels of classifications within e-mails by marking their sections appropriately. This section would be classified as Top-Secret and blacked out for unauthorized personnel. [/quote]