[UK Waffle] Tony Blair Is Back (Due to Jeremy Corbyn being a 'nutter') - Polidicks

[quote=excerpt]Tony Blair is positioning himself to return to British politics, it has been reported. The controversial former Prime Minister is engineering a comeback because he feels he can fill a political vacuum caused by Theresa May being a 'light weight' and Jeremy Corbyn being a 'nutter', The Sunday Times reports. A source said Mr Blair is sourcing premises near Westminster in order to relocate 130 staff to the UK’s political hub. A source allegedly told the newspaper: 'He’s not impressed with Theresa May. He thinks she’s a total lightweight. He thinks Jeremy Corbyn’s a nutter and the Tories are screwing up Brexit. He thinks there’s a massive hole in British politics that he can fill.'[/quote] [url]http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/tony-blair-returning-to-politics-comeback-jeremy-corbyn-nutter-theresa-may-lightweight-a7427676.html[/url] [img]http://i.imgur.com/chxj0Be.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/uQc3awS.jpg[/img][img]http://i.imgur.com/a47Dz37.jpg[/img]

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hmmm no thanks tony

I don't imagine he'd be a popular choice amongst the British electorate, to be honest.

Please no. I can respect him somewhat for the (small) role he played in the Peace Process in the North, but he's exactly the type of left winger we don't need right now.

What was the response to that chilcot report anyway?

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401703]Please no. I can respect him somewhat for the (small) role he played in the Peace Process in the North, but he's exactly the type of left winger we don't need right now.[/QUOTE] He does appeal to the tory peeps though. Labour atm has lots of support but only among hardcore labour voters. People approve of their message and policy but its not getting through. I love Corbyn but I'm not convinced he can win back the traditional labour peeps who went ukip, win back votes in scotland and fight for people who voted tory last election. Blair deffo isnt the right way to be tho

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401703]Please no. I can respect him somewhat for the (small) role he played in the Peace Process in the North, but he's exactly the type of left winger we don't need right now.[/QUOTE] but ur irish

[QUOTE=AK'z;51401727]but ur irish[/QUOTE] Every time Britain sneezes, Ireland catches a cold. With Brexit and Blair we'd catch pneumonia. Don't need to be British either to realise that Blair is bad news!

also who else can barrage ze farage [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT--RnOYORI[/media] [editline]20th November 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401734]Every time Britain sneezes, Ireland catches a cold. [/QUOTE] Dude, you're an independent country why complain about our fuck ups when you declared you can fend as your own nation.

[QUOTE=Lambeth;51401707]What was the response to that chilcot report anyway?[/QUOTE] People were obviously angry, but the report itself was overshadowed by its implications on the Labour Leadership Election.

Oh god not this asshole.

[QUOTE=AK'z;51401759]Dude, you're an independent country why complain about our fuck ups when you declared you can fend as your own nation.[/QUOTE] That's not my point, my point was that Ireland is highly affected by Britain's actions and its fuckups. It's great that we are an independent nation and I want us to remain that way, but you seem to be forgetting that neighbours tend to have this affect on each other. We can certainly fend for ourselves on our own - but that doesn't mean we can't be concerned when our closet neighbour does something stupid.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401803]That's not my point, my point was that Ireland is highly affected by Britain's actions and its fuckups. It's great that we are an independent nation and I want us to remain that way, but you seem to be forgetting that neighbours tend to have this affect on each other. We can certainly fend for ourselves on our own - but that doesn't mean we can't be concerned when our closet neighbour does something stupid.[/QUOTE] Blair would be a positive development for Ireland given his position on Brexit...

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51401822]Blair would be a positive development for Ireland given his position on Brexit...[/QUOTE] Ay, not denying that, but he wasn't exactly great for us otherwise when he was Prime Minister. That, and I'm afraid that the Brexit ship has sailed it seems, since you lads aren't going to have a general election for the next few years.

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401832]Ay, not denying that, but he wasn't exactly great for us otherwise when he was Prime Minister. That, and I'm afraid that the Brexit ship has sailed it seems, since you lads aren't going to have a general election for the next few years.[/QUOTE] I, and many other people, are hoping the Executive continues towards total constitutional collapse and you're proven wrong. The Judiciary are tearing our semi-unelected leaders a new one and they just don't have the plans or experience relative to the big Judges, to fight it. They will not get what they want for Britain.

Uh... you do realise I'm against Brexit completely? Total constitutional collapse doesn't sound good either, and I'm really not sure what the affect of parliament voting against Brexit will have. It'd be great for us though if Brexit stopped.

Jeremy's really not a great politician, but Tony calling him a nutter is something else. Tony is genuinely in his own world, and also spent his career after politics chumming around with a variety of dictators around the middle east & central asia & making millions while doing it. no amount of words can describe how disgusting tony is to me tbh, he seems oblivious to what the majority of british people think of him and how people feel (disgust, hate) in regards to his role in the iraq war. blood of hundreds of thousands on his hands. that's not even getting into the complete destruction of Labour's name that his policies entailed but that train was moving before he hopped on anyway so w/e.

Tony "I'll follow America into Iraq on the words of one guy" Blair.

I guess caring about your constituents when you're in politics does make you a bit of a nutter

[QUOTE=Goberfish;51402233]I guess caring about your constituents when you're in politics does make you a bit of a nutter[/QUOTE] Jeremy has spent no more of his career 'caring about his constituents' than any other backbench MP, what he has spent most of his career doing is making friends with terrorist groups and our enemies

[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;51401703]Please no. I can respect him somewhat for the (small) role he played in the Peace Process in the North, but he's exactly the type of left winger we don't need right now.[/QUOTE] It's amazing how far we've spiralled when Blair is considered left wing.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51402238]what he has spent most of his career doing is making friends with terrorist groups and our enemies[/QUOTE] Oh no, he actually talks to groups instead of bombing everything, he must be some sort of terrorist sympathiser

[QUOTE=Bradyns;51402250]It's amazing how far we've spiralled when Blair is considered left wing.[/QUOTE] I mean I agree, he is no true left winger, he was a third way type of guy. Which is exactly what the left doesn't need anymore.

[QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51402238]Jeremy has spent no more of his career 'caring about his constituents' than any other backbench MP, what he has spent most of his career doing is making friends with terrorist groups and our enemies[/QUOTE] ha ha ha, you sound like the daily mail. any example in particular?

[QUOTE=Goberfish;51402258]Oh no, he actually talks to groups instead of bombing everything, he must be some sort of terrorist sympathiser[/QUOTE] Jeremy Corbyn: * Voted against the Anglo-Irish Agreement as well as the Peace Process in Parliament, as he did not believe the IRA-led Republicans should have to compromise * Corbyn was general secretary of the editorial board of the hard-left journal Labour Briefing which supported IRA violence and explicitly backed the Brighton Hotel Bombing, which killed 5 people and maimed 31 others. In its December 1984 leader, the editorial board ‘disassociated itself’ from an article criticising the Brighton bombing, saying the criticism was a ‘serious political misjudgement’. The board said it ‘reaffirmed its support for, and solidarity with, the Irish republican movement’, and added that ‘the British only sit up and take notice when they are bombed into it’. Alongside its editorial, the board reprinted a speech by Gerry Adams describing the bombing as a ‘blow for democracy’. The same edition carried a reader’s letter praising the ‘audacity’ of the IRA attack and stating: ‘What do you call four dead Tories? A start.' * [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11924431/Revealed-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-John-McDonnells-close-IRA-links.html"]Repeatedly[/URL] met with and praised IRA actions and soldiers: [QUOTE]It can be disclosed that for seven years running, while the IRA “armed struggle” was at its height, Mr Corbyn attended and spoke at official republican commemorations to honour dead IRA terrorists, IRA “prisoners of war” and the active “soldiers of the IRA.” The official programme for the 1988 event, held one week after the IRA murdered three British servicemen in the Netherlands, states that “force of arms is the only method capable of bringing about a free and united Socialist Ireland.” Mr Corbyn used the event to attack the Anglo-Irish Agreement, the precursor of the peace process.[/QUOTE] * Has been paid £20,000 to appear on Iranian State TV. Iran is obviously a horrible country (for obvious reasons), but we should also consider that Press TV itself has been banned in the UK for showing the forced confession through torture of an Iranian liberal. * Whilst doing this, he described the killing of Osama bin Laden as a 'tragedy' alongside 9/11. During his hosting, he made no attempt to dismiss anti-Semitic callers or conspiracy theorists ([url]https://daviddpaxton.com/2016/01/07/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden-part-2-tragicomedy/[/url] - read this before trying to excuse him as it covers pretty much every excuse that people have given and why they are inadequate.) * He invited Hamas and Hezbollah to Parliament. He referred to the groups as his 'friends'. Hamas explicitly rules out all peaceful solutions to the conflict, and is also explicitly genocidal. As such, there is no point even meeting with the groups if he is truly interested in peace. * Continuously hosted anti-Israel conferences which have hosted anti-Semitic speakers such as Raed Salah, who he has described as a 'greatly honoured man' * Continuous ardent support for Venezuela * Opposed intervention in the Balkans * Was for a long period chair of Stop the War, who have repeatedly hosted disgusting articles: [url]https://archive.is/ir6e8#selection-671.0-671.39[/url] - a poem in honour of 13 year old Palestinian killed after attempting to stab a 13 year old Israeli boy to death, as well as alluding strongly to numerous Nazi and other anti-Semitic tropes (such as the blood libel) [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20150924090937/http://stopwar.org.uk/news/the-missing-facts-of-the-1972-munich-olympics-massacre-israelis-weren-t-the-only-victims[/url] - [QUOTE]The author was journalist/polemicist Alison Weir, who founded the “If Americans Knew” organisation, which argues that American support for Israel is as a result of domination of US media and politics by Jewish interests. A number of Jewish groups now regard this organisation as an openly antisemitic grouping. Alison Weir regularly appears on the Free American radio show, which is hosted by white supremacist Clay Douglas. She has alleged that Israel regularly harvests organs from murdered Palestinians, both in Israeli prisons and during harvesting raids into Gaza, a crude version of the blood libel antisemitic trope that Jews use the blood of murdered gentiles for their sustenance. In her piece on Munich, Weir states that whilst some hostages were “accidentally killed” by the Palestinian Black September terrorists, German Special Forces killed the rest. She claims that the terrorists had no plans to harm the Israeli athletes and that attempted rescue by German forces was “botched & unnecessary” and used as a pre-planned pretext for Israeli raids against Syria and Lebanon. So – Stop the War published a conspiracy theory about the massacre of Jewish Israeli Olympic athletes, written by a discredited fringe activist known for her use of antisemitic tropes.[/QUOTE] [url]https://web.archive.org/web/20140816055533/http:/stopwar.org.uk/news/the-tale-of-two-sieges-the-yazidi-one-in-iraq-that-wasn-t-and-the-one-in-gaza-that-is[/url] I'm bored now. Stop portraying him as a peaceful old man. At best he is a moron playing with fire. At worst he is nasty and dangerous. Both are bad qualities for any leader.

Why the fuck did he vote against the Anglo-Irish agreement? Dear god.

ill skip over the ira section as that is legitimate criticism for the most part. [QUOTE=FlashMarsh;51402368]Jeremy Corbyn: * Voted against the Anglo-Irish Agreement as well as the Peace Process in Parliament, as he did not believe the IRA-led Republicans should have to compromise * [URL="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/Jeremy_Corbyn/11924431/Revealed-Jeremy-Corbyn-and-John-McDonnells-close-IRA-links.html"]Repeatedly[/URL] met with and praised IRA actions and soldiers: * Has been paid £20,000 to appear on Iranian State TV. [/QUOTE] right, and blair who you are apparently in support or reckon to be better led us into the iraq war after passing the the civil contingences act so he didnt have to have parliament vote on it. lets not mention sierra leone, kosovo and afghanistan. [quote]* Whilst doing this, he described the killing of Osama bin Laden as a 'tragedy' alongside 9/11. During his hosting, he made no attempt to dismiss anti-Semitic callers or conspiracy theorists ([URL]https://daviddpaxton.com/2016/01/07/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden-part-2-tragicomedy/[/URL][/quote] ok and david cameron who, knowing your stance, im sure you also prefer to corbyn said exactly the same thing. notice you conveniently left out the fact that corbyn wished for bin laden to be captured instead. [quote]* He invited Hamas and Hezbollah to Parliament. He referred to the groups as his 'friends'. Hamas explicitly rules out all peaceful solutions to the conflict, and is also explicitly genocidal. As such, there is no point even meeting with the groups if he is truly interested in peace.[/quote] again out of context, the whole line was about wishing them to be part of the discussion on the middle east instead of further alienating and adding fuel to the fire. [quote]* Continuously hosted anti-Israel conferences which have hosted anti-Semitic speakers such as Raed Salah, who he has described as a 'greatly honoured man'[/quote] i cannot defend some of his actions towards the isael/palestine conflict but 'hosting anti-israel conferences' is hardly the case. being critical of israel =/= being an anti semite. try reading about some of his associations with known anti semites which i would accept as a relevant point. again, senationalised. [quote]* Continuous ardent support for Venezuela[/quote] yep, this is a fair point. quite delusional i must admit but this is a wider problem than just corbyn, plenty of labour mps seem for some reason to be a part of pro venezuela rallies. [quote]* Was for a long period chair of Stop the War, who have repeatedly hosted disgusting articles: [URL]https://archive.is/ir6e8#selection-671.0-671.39[/URL] - a poem in honour of 13 year old Palestinian killed after attempting to stab a 13 year old Israeli boy to death, as well as alluding strongly to numerous Nazi and other anti-Semitic tropes (such as the blood libel) [/quote] corbyn does not write or hand check these articles and the vast majority of their content is what you would expect from an anti-war organisation. I have no problem with people picking out his actual flaws in policy and such but the amount of unfounded and misinformed hate towards Corbyn is insane.

Lookin great for tory supporters next election

[QUOTE=Crumpet;51402457]ill skip over the ira section as that is legitimate criticism for the most part. right, and blair who you are apparently in support or reckon to be better led us into the iraq war after passing the the civil contingences act so he didnt have to have parliament vote on it. lets not mention sierra leone, kosovo and afghanistan. ok and david cameron who, knowing your stance, im sure you also prefer to corbyn said exactly the same thing. notice you conveniently left out the fact that corbyn wished for bin laden to be captured instead. again out of context, the whole line was about wishing them to be part of the discussion on the middle east instead of further alienating and adding fuel to the fire. i cannot defend some of his actions towards the isael/palestine conflict but 'hosting anti-israel conferences' is hardly the case. being critical of israel =/= being an anti semite. try reading about some of his associations with known anti semites which i would accept as a relevant point. again, senationalised. yep, this is a fair point. quite delusional i must admit but this is a wider problem than just corbyn, plenty of labour mps seem for some reason to be a part of pro venezuela rallies. corbyn does not write or hand check these articles and the vast majority of their content is what you would expect from an anti-war organisation. I have no problem with people picking out his actual flaws in policy and such but the amount of unfounded and misinformed hate towards Corbyn is insane.[/QUOTE] Hey dude You come across like youre desparately grasping at straws