Coffee next on climate chopping-block - Polidicks

[url]http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/11/10/coffee_under_climate_threat/[/url] [QUOTE]“Climate deniers,” just go and fetch yourself a coffee and ignore this story. For the rest of us, the news is dire: according to a study by the Royal Botanic Gardens at Kew, wild Arabica could be on the climate change hit list. OK, deep breaths: the cultivated stuff will still be out there. Maybe: [URL="http://www.kew.org/news/arabica-coffee-could-be-extinct.htm"]according[/URL] to the study, the domestic crops have very limited genetic diversity, which makes them vulnerable to any new pest or infection that comes along. Hence the importance of wild Arabica, which provides the stock for hybridisation. Running Arabica’s chances against three emission scenarios, over three timescales (2020, 2050 and 2080), and with a geographical resolution of 1 Km for the plant’s Ethiopian homeland, the models “showed a profoundly negative influence on the number and extent of wild Arabica populations”, Kew says. While the most favourable scenario leaves coffee survivable – 62 percent of the areas now able to support it would survive – the worst-case model suggested that 97 percent of its range would no longer support the crop. “Of the two analyses undertaken, the locality analysis is regarded by the authors as the most pragmatic and informative. The predicted reduction in the number of Arabica localities, between 65 percent and 99.7 percent, can be taken as a general assessment of the species’ survival as a whole”, the research states. The researchers add that the impacts won’t be confined to Ethiopia: world-wide, it will become harder to find places suitable for coffee production. “Optimum cultivation conditions are likely to become increasingly difficult to achieve in many pre-existing coffee growing areas, leading to a reduction in productivity, increased and intensified management (such as the use of irrigation) and crop failure (some areas becoming unsuitable for Arabica cultivation),” Kew states. And of course, without coffee, we could kiss goodbye to software development as well. [/QUOTE] Yes, it's a Register article. However, the information is still pertinent.

I'm pretty sure if the coffee bean was threatened we would see a global effort to rightfully prevent global warming.

[QUOTE=MIPS;38402892]I'm pretty sure if the coffee bean was threatened we would see a global effort to rightfully prevent global warming.[/QUOTE] just like how there's a global effort to address the problem of worldwide environmental degradation and rapidly declining sea-life populations, right?

[QUOTE=Furioso;38403262]just like how there's a global effort to address the problem of worldwide environmental degradation and rapidly declining sea-life populations, right?[/QUOTE] The average hipster doesn't sustain himself on expensive and rare sea-life drinks at Starbucks.

[QUOTE=Furioso;38403262]just like how there's a global effort to address the problem of worldwide environmental degradation and rapidly declining sea-life populations, right?[/QUOTE] Most people care about that, but it's far too big of a concept for someone to grasp and think "Yeah, there's something we can do about that!" In many cases, it takes something small to effect real change, and it's often something that affects the average citizen in a very demonstrable way. You can say "The coral reefs are disappearing!" and people will feel sad about that, but it's very hard to connect that to their own lives unless they see it for themselves and they are personally invested. That sucks, I know, but I'd say that's largely human nature.

I would rather suffocate. Or let my great-grandchildren suffocate.

[QUOTE=MIPS;38402892]I'm pretty sure if the coffee bean was threatened we would see a global effort to rightfully prevent global warming.[/QUOTE] Doubt it, who cares when they can be preserved and grown with artificial light in self-contained greenhouses? No one gives enough of a shit, worlds just getting more fucked up every day, and there is virtually nothing we can do about it without massive planet-wide changes. We're destroying the immense biodiversity of the South American rain forests, you really think people are going to care about coffee beans?

I don't really like coffee anyways. Not that I think we should ignore climate change or anything.

[QUOTE=Furioso;38403262]just like how there's a global effort to address the problem of worldwide environmental degradation and rapidly declining sea-life populations, right?[/QUOTE] try and convince some guy in alaska who heats his house with wood and drives a four-wheel drive SUV that he really just needs to keep his house at a sensible temperature like 62 and get a smaller, more economic vehicle because the coral reefs are dying

[QUOTE=DarkendSky;38404976]try and convince some guy in alaska who heats his house with wood and drives a four-wheel drive SUV that he really just needs to keep his house at a sensible temperature like 62 and get a smaller, more economic vehicle because the coral reefs are dying[/QUOTE] Cars and shit like that are a flash in the pan compared to Coal burning power plants and we have the technology to recapture a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere and we're not exactly short of space to put all the carbon capture shit either. We have the ability to halt our effect on climate change right now, but no one cares enough, and it's fucking unfathomably stupid.

[QUOTE=JeanLuc761;38403378]Most people care about that, but it's far too big of a concept for someone to grasp and think "Yeah, there's something we can do about that!" In many cases, it takes something small to effect real change, and it's often something that affects the average citizen in a very demonstrable way. You can say "The coral reefs are disappearing!" and people will feel sad about that, but it's very hard to connect that to their own lives unless they see it for themselves and they are personally invested. That sucks, I know, but I'd say that's largely human nature.[/QUOTE] I agree, except I wouldn't say that it is human nature. It's the way our society is right now, but humans are naturally inclined to be far less apathetic (and more empathetic) than they become by the time they reach adulthood in modern civilizations.

Holy fuck, Fringe got it right

[QUOTE=Computrix;38404874]I don't really like coffee anyways. Not that I think we should ignore climate change or anything.[/QUOTE] how can you not like the nectar of the gods??

Coffee smells great, but the taste is the exact opposite [B]NO MATTER WHAT[/B]. Saying it's a acquired taste is a understatement.

Hated black coffee when I was younger. Love it now. I get it fed into my body intravenously.

Finally a time to abandon drip coffee and switch to espresso worldwide? :3

[QUOTE=Van-man;38407147]Coffee smells great, but the taste is the exact opposite [B]NO MATTER WHAT[/B]. Saying it's a acquired taste is a understatement.[/QUOTE] Oh wow. I wouldn't even consider it an acquired taste, due to how popular it is. Are you sweetening it? What do you not like about it?

[QUOTE=n0cturni;38407606]Oh wow. I wouldn't even consider it an acquired taste, due to how popular it is. Are you sweetening it? What do you not like about it?[/QUOTE] Practically everything. I have to shove so much damn sugar and milk in it to drink it that it would be easier for me to just mix up milk & sugar and drink that on it's own.

[QUOTE=Van-man;38407147]Coffee smells great, but the taste is the exact opposite [B]NO MATTER WHAT[/B]. Saying it's a acquired taste is a understatement.[/QUOTE] Well yea if you buy the cheap Folger's shit then of course it's going to taste like a bunch of bullshit. Sometime if you want to see the wonders of coffee, go buy a more expensive blend from one of the grinders. Buy some gourmet shit like french vanilla. Also if you are drinking cheap shit drink half coffee, half cream/milk, and it will be bearable without being a totally sugary mess. [editline]11th November 2012[/editline] Coffee is sort of like liquor. The cheap stuff tastes like shit and is damn near unbearable sometimes. However, the good stuff is amazing.

But how will we torture Anders Breivik if we can't serve him coffee? HOW?!

[QUOTE=Bumbanut;38408177]But how will we torture Anders Breivik if we can't serve him coffee? HOW?![/QUOTE] Swap his door with one that has a tiny gap to let a draft through?

[QUOTE=yawmwen;38408025]Well yea if you buy the cheap Folger's shit then of course it's going to taste like a bunch of bullshit. Sometime if you want to see the wonders of coffee, go buy a more expensive blend from one of the grinders. Buy some gourmet shit like french vanilla. Also if you are drinking cheap shit drink half coffee, half cream/milk, and it will be bearable without being a totally sugary mess. [editline]11th November 2012[/editline] Coffee is sort of like liquor. The cheap stuff tastes like shit and is damn near unbearable sometimes. However, the good stuff is amazing.[/QUOTE] I'd rather spend my money on fine whiskey than on expensive coffee. [QUOTE=Terminutter;38408259]Swap his door with one that has a tiny gap to let a draft through?[/QUOTE] Replace all the furniture with some from the 70's that shows signs of heavy use. All his clothes shall be second hand from the nearest red cross store. [B]ESPECIALLY[/B] underwear.

[QUOTE=Van-man;38408266]I'd rather spend my money on fine whiskey than on expensive coffee.[/QUOTE] do both fuck yeah irish coffee

[QUOTE=DrTaxi;38410716]do both fuck yeah irish coffee[/QUOTE] Ehh, I usually mix Bailey's and Southern Comfort in some pitch black coffee. But that works too I guess.

Never buy cheap coffee, it always tastes shit.

[quote]Coffee next on [...] chopping block[/quote] I'm sorry for you Coffee :<

Drinking coffee right now. the drink of gods. [editline]11th November 2012[/editline] Jesus invented [URL="http://subversiveinfluence.com/images/blogposts/295.starbucksjesus.png"]coffee [/URL]and rollerskates

[QUOTE=Van-man;38407147]Coffee smells great, but the taste is the exact opposite [B]NO MATTER WHAT[/B]. Saying it's a acquired taste is a understatement.[/QUOTE] I would only say its an aquired taste if you just drink it black. Coffee can be enjoyed manyways, and I think it tastes great with the right amount of sweetner and cream. Stuff like mochas and latttees are a ggood starting point for example because they taste a lot like hot coco except with their own delicious coffee taste to it. Beer on the other hand, THATS an aqired taste. You can't really mix it or make something out ofit, so it'll always be exactly what you get - a carbonated bitter yellow piss drink.

I hate coffee. Besides, caffeine nor alcohol affects me (in moderate doses) because i'm larger than your average country, so I can't acquire magical energy that everyone raves about when talking about coffee.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;38411893]I hate coffee. Besides, caffeine nor alcohol affects me (in moderate doses) because i'm larger than your average country, so I can't acquire magical energy that everyone raves about when talking about coffee.[/QUOTE] Drink 2 or 3 big fat cups of coffee, give it like 10 to 15 minutes to kick in, you'll see.