Airbnb faces outcry after transgender guest was denied stay by a host - Polidicks

[URL="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2016/jun/06/airbnb-criticism-transgender-guest-denied-super-host"]SOURCE 1[/URL] [URL="http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/06/07/woman-turned-away-by-airbnb-host-for-being-trans/"]SOURCE 2[/URL] [QUOTE][URL="https://www.theguardian.com/technology/airbnb"]Airbnb[/URL] is under fire after a transgender guest was denied a stay by a host who felt “uncomfortable”.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Shadi Petosky, producer of the children’s show Yo Gabba Gabba and creator of the new Amazon show Danger & Eggs, on Sunday [URL="https://twitter.com/shadipetosky/status/739603046821330944"]tweeted a screenshot[/URL] of a Minneapolis-based host denying her a stay because of her gender identity.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Airbnb responded quickly, with public affairs director Nick Pappas writing: “Discrimination has no place in the Airbnb community. We are removing this host from Airbnb.”[/QUOTE]

It is good that the host is removed from Airbnb but why did she disclose that she was trans?

[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;50474331]It is good that the host is removed from Airbnb but why did she disclose that she was trans?[/QUOTE] She probably figured whether or not she shouldn't be discriminated against, she'd rather find out before signing up to stay somewhere if they would.

[QUOTE=IAmIchigo;50474331]It is good that the host is removed from Airbnb but why did she disclose that she was trans?[/QUOTE] Any number of reasons Not everybody is ashamed of it.

This controversy is dumb, She's not running a professional hotel service, she's making extra money by letting people stay in her own home through Airbnb, she should have the right to deny anyone the room for any reason she feels like. This is not comparable to being denied a stay at a hotel, this is a room in her own house that's in question.

[QUOTE=phygon;50474354]Any number of reasons Not everybody is ashamed of it.[/QUOTE] Just because you're not ashamed of it does not mean you should flaunt it. That applies to your sexuality, your gender and all other shit. Unless asked, no reason to tell everyone. You're a vegan? Good for you, why tell me though?

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50474372]This controversy is dumb, She's not running a professional hotel service, she's making extra money by letting people stay in her own home through Airbnb, she should have the right to deny anyone the room for any reason she feels like. This is not comparable to being denied a stay at a hotel, this is a room in her own house that's in question.[/QUOTE] Which she can still do, just not through the Airbnb service.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50474372]This controversy is dumb, She's not running a professional hotel service, she's making extra money by letting people stay in her own home through Airbnb, she should have the right to deny anyone the room for any reason she feels like. This is not comparable to being denied a stay at a hotel, this is a room in her own house that's in question.[/QUOTE] Act-shall-lee, the person who decided to work with Airbnb gave up their choice to discriminate when they signed up with Airbnb. The homeowner should've read the fine print before trying to make a few bucks.

[IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkOZDJNUYAQ_7vI.jpg[/IMG] Not exactly being a dick or anything.

[QUOTE=rndgenerator;50474379]Just because you're not ashamed of it does not mean you should flaunt it. That applies to your sexuality, your gender and all other shit. Unless asked, no reason to tell everyone. You're a vegan? Good for you, why tell me though?[/QUOTE] It's not something you can hide like veganism though. Some trans people most likely find it easier to tell people before they meet to avoid risking a more uncomfortable or dangerous situation. Telling someone you're trans isn't flaunting it dude.

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50474372]This controversy is dumb, She's not running a professional hotel service, she's making extra money by letting people stay in her own home through Airbnb, she should have the right to deny anyone the room for any reason she feels like. This is not comparable to being denied a stay at a hotel, this is a room in her own house that's in question.[/QUOTE] You can go on craigslist and rent out your room how you wish. Airbnb is a business, and similarly would not wish to represent itself with users that refuse to let black patrons stay in their homes. [editline]7th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=rndgenerator;50474379]Just because you're not ashamed of it does not mean you should flaunt it. That applies to your sexuality, your gender and all other shit. Unless asked, no reason to tell everyone. You're a vegan? Good for you, why tell me though?[/QUOTE] You're showing off a lot of ignorance to proclaim the only possible reasons here to be "flaunting", no perspective or empathy at all.

So why is Airbnb facing outcry when they had nothing to do with it. It's not like people start screaming about how bad YouTube is every time someone posts a video saying how they hate Jews or something.

[QUOTE=Fapplejack;50474468]So why is Airbnb facing outcry when they had nothing to do with it. It's not like people start screaming about how bad YouTube is every time someone posts a video saying how they hate Jews or something.[/QUOTE] [URL="https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/483/what-is-airbnb-s-anti-discrimination-policy"]Their words.[/URL] [QUOTE]Airbnb is an open marketplace. Through their experiences on Airbnb, we hope that our guests and hosts build meaningful connections with people from all over the globe.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]To that end, we prohibit content that promotes discrimination, bigotry, racism, hatred, harassment or harm against any individual or group, and we require all users to comply with local laws and regulations.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Many countries, including the U.S., have laws preventing discrimination on the basis of race, religion, national origin, disability, sex, sexual orientation, or age. In the U.S., anti-discrimination laws apply to discrimination by any inn, hotel, motel, or other establishment that provides lodging to guests. The two main federal laws in this area are the Fair Housing Act (Title VIII of the Civil Rights Act of 1968) (FHA) and the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=axelord157;50474397]Act-shall-lee, the person who decided to work with Airbnb gave up their choice to discriminate when they signed up with Airbnb. The homeowner should've read the fine print before trying to make a few bucks.[/QUOTE] Just because it violates the sacred Airbnb ToS doesn't mean it's not a ridiculously stupid thing to form an "outcry" over, or post a photo of the woman for. The fact that there are legitimate news organizations reporting on this controversy is stupid.

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474403][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkOZDJNUYAQ_7vI.jpg[/IMG] Not exactly being a dick or anything.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, she may have been polite in her wording but I'm getting some heavy 'you creep me out and I don't want you near my children' vibes here. 'I don't want him to feel any discomforts in his own home' then maybe you shouldn't be running a fucking hotel out of the guest room [editline]7th June 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=srobins;50474594]Just because it violates the sacred Airbnb ToS doesn't mean it's not a ridiculously stupid thing to form an "outcry" over, or post a photo of the woman for. The fact that there are legitimate news organizations reporting on this controversy is stupid.[/QUOTE] I don't think there's an outcry going on so much as a slow news day

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474403][IMG]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CkOZDJNUYAQ_7vI.jpg[/IMG] Not exactly being a dick or anything.[/QUOTE] how is going through puberty relevant? how would being trans make a person uncomfortable?

[QUOTE=srobins;50474594]Just because it violates the sacred Airbnb ToS doesn't mean it's not a ridiculously stupid thing to form an "outcry" over, or post a photo of the woman for. The fact that there are legitimate news organizations reporting on this controversy is stupid.[/QUOTE] Airbnb terms of service, the law, what's the difference right?

[QUOTE=Judas;50474628]how is going through puberty relevant? how would being trans make a person uncomfortable?[/QUOTE] If you can't see why she'd be concerned about how a trans person would make her child uncomfortable I don't think anything I can say will help. That said, the decision to cut her from hosting, while I disagree with it, is entirely understandable by a company that's facing some hard hitting about being racist or transphobic.

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474711]If you can't see why she'd be concerned about how a trans person would make her child uncomfortable I don't think anything I can say will help. That said, the decision to cut her from hosting, while I disagree with it, is entirely understandable by a company that's facing some hard hitting about being racist or transphobic.[/QUOTE] so you would agree with the statement you should be able to break a contract and still work for the company? Because by disagreeing with that decision, that's exactly what you're saying

[QUOTE=soulharvester;50474372]This controversy is dumb, She's not running a professional hotel service, she's making extra money by letting people stay in her own home through Airbnb, she should have the right to deny anyone the room for any reason she feels like. This is not comparable to being denied a stay at a hotel, this is a room in her own house that's in question.[/QUOTE] So they should also be allowed to stop black people from lodging there too yes? You could also say its fully within the company's (Airbnb) rights to remove them from their service for any reason right, just as they has the right to not allow anyone they desires?

[QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474711]If you can't see why she'd be concerned about how a [B]black [/B]person would make her child uncomfortable I don't think anything I can say will help. That said, the decision to cut her from hosting, while I disagree with it, is entirely understandable by a company that's facing some hard hitting about being racist.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474711]If you can't see why she'd be concerned about how a [B]mexican [/B]person would make her child uncomfortable I don't think anything I can say will help. That said, the decision to cut her from hosting, while I disagree with it, is entirely understandable by a company that's facing some hard hitting about being racist.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Chernobyl426;50474711]If you can't see why she'd be concerned about how a [B]jewish [/B]person would make her child uncomfortable I don't think anything I can say will help. That said, the decision to cut her from hosting, while I disagree with it, is entirely understandable by a company that's facing some hard hitting about being anti-semitic.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=James xX;50474636]Airbnb terms of service, the law, what's the difference right?[/QUOTE] It's not against the law to decied you dont want someone in your home

[QUOTE=discofex;50474756]It's not against the law to decied you dont want someone in your home[/QUOTE] if you sign a contract saying you won't discriminate, then no, it's not against the law but it's a violation of the contract which means you have no right to complain when they kick you out of their organization.

[QUOTE=James xX;50474636]Airbnb terms of service, the law, what's the difference right?[/QUOTE] Pretty sure what she's doing isn't illegal, if that's what you're implying. She isn't an actual hotel, she's a woman with a home. Her using Airbnb to fudge it and play pretend-hotel doesn't change that.

[QUOTE=discofex;50474756]It's not against the law to decied you dont want someone in your home[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=srobins;50474762]Pretty sure what she's doing isn't illegal, if that's what you're implying. She isn't an actual hotel, she's a woman with a home. Her using Airbnb to fudge it and play pretend-hotel doesn't change that.[/QUOTE] It is against the law to, as a company, restrict housing for discriminatory reasons. Airbnb is a company, regardless of structure in where the housing takes place. This is why it isn't the homeowner that is in trouble, but rather Airbnb the company and why the company terminated the contract between itself and the homeowner.

[QUOTE=bitches;50474763]It is against the law to, as a company, restrict housing for discriminatory reasons. Airbnb is a company, regardless of structure in where the housing takes place. This is why it isn't the homeowner that is in trouble, but rather Airbnb the company and why the company terminated the contract between itself and the homeowner.[/QUOTE] Honestly I'm having trouble understanding what James' point was.. I understand Airbnb as a company cannot discriminate, but they don't, and they cancelled her contract, soo.. What's the issue?

In order to be a part of the service they in all likelyhood signed a contract that lets her be terminated from the service at any time. I see no problem with this.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;50474732]so you would agree with the statement you should be able to break a contract and still work for the company? Because by disagreeing with that decision, that's exactly what you're saying[/QUOTE] I personally disagree with the decision made by the company. I support their right to make it.

[QUOTE=srobins;50474773]Honestly I'm having trouble understanding what James' point was.. I understand Airbnb as a company cannot discriminate, but they don't, and they cancelled her contract, soo.. What's the issue?[/QUOTE] As far as I'm aware, the "outcry" (bearing in mind that some twitter complaints on a slow news day hardly qualify) led to Airbnb's awareness of the problem and its swift resolution. I don't think anyone who is aware of the situation in its current state, is upset at Airbnb. So I'm not sure what you think the issue is, either.

[QUOTE=bitches;50474746][/QUOTE] I get the point you're trying to make, but race or heritage is largely different from gender. Note once again that I'm not disputing the company's right to make the decision they did.