• Russia's only war criminal Yury Budanov assassinated in Moscow
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[quote=Christian Science Monitor] Russia's only convicted war criminal, former army Col. Yury Budanov, was fatally shot in downtown Moscow Friday in what police called a contract killing, possibly motivated by vengeance on the part of Chechens or a "provocation" aiming to stir up ethnic strife in Moscow. The former artillery officer, who had asked for police protection after receiving threats but had been refused, was shot several times by a gunman who escaped by car with an accomplice, police said. Most Russians appear to have forgotten about Budanov, whose case caused a bitter split in Russian society after he was arrested a decade ago and charged with kidnapping, raping, and murdering an 18-year-old Chechen girl, Elza Kungayeva, near the Chechen village of Tangi-Chu, where he was stationed during the second Chechen war. RECOMMENDED: Chechnya: Russia declares 'mission accomplished' in strong-man state His trial, which infuriated even pro-Moscow Chechens, saw the withdrawal of rape charges by the prosecution and included testimony by top Russian generals who insisted Budanov was an "honorable Russian officer." "This case had a huge impact on Russian society, because it was the first time a high-ranking Russian officer was put on trial for a very odious crime," says Alexei Makarkin, deputy director of the independent Center for Political Technologies in Moscow. "Before that the Russian military had carte blanche to do whatever they wanted in Chechnya, and human rights considerations didn't matter. His arrest was a signal that might be changing, and so the military brass tried to derail the trial," he says. Public opinion polls at the time showed that over half of Russians believed Budanov was innocent and should be released and restored to his former military rank. The trial ended with Budanov being found "not guilty" by reason of temporary insanity, a verdict that was subsequently overturned by Russia's Supreme Court. With two clicks, sign up for our daily World Editor's Picks newsletter. Our best stories, in your inbox His second trial ended in a 10-year prison sentence, of which he served six years before being released on parole in 2009. [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2011/0610/Russia-s-only-war-criminal-Yury-Budanov-assassinated-in-Moscow[/url] Even in Moscow, its still scary. And this is clearly done by some hitman. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdUfgSKGoFA[/media]
It's funny because budanov means hangoverist
[b]Only[/b] war criminal. Oh okay, cool. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] oh, he was the only one who got convicted.
[QUOTE=johan_sm;30386034]It's funny because budanov means hangoverist[/QUOTE] No, no it doesn't
Hopefully he suffered while dying.
[QUOTE=Paravin;30386049] oh, he was the only one who got convicted.[/QUOTE] Yes. We've got another one - general of the army Shamanov. He's a war criminal. But instead, defending his ass, our gouvernment chose colonel Budanov to be war criminal. A lot of far worse people are still in high command of Russian army. But instead out gouvernment traded Budanov for them. Budanov wasn't an angel, but hell, it's not fair. And that Kadyrov piece of shit must be happy now.
[QUOTE=Careld;30386275]Hopefully he suffered while dying.[/QUOTE] All he did was kill a sniper(yes, that 18 year old girl was a sniper, not an innocent civilian), and he was made a war criminal only because Chechnya asked Putin to, and Putin wants Russia to have better relationships with Chechnya. You should hear the whole story before hoping that someone died painfully. Asshole.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;30391107]All he did was kill a sniper(yes, that 18 year old girl was a sniper, not an innocent civilian)[/QUOTE] [citation needed]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbA4tId4zSU[/media]
[QUOTE=JDK721;30391154][citation needed][/QUOTE] That's what I heard. I have nothing to back that up. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] Oh wait, now I do. The source is in Russian so I'll translate [url]http://newsland.ru/news/detail/id/718940/cat/94/[/url] "In downtown Moscow, the hero of Russia, Col. Yuri Budanov was killed. He was accused in murder of a Chechen sniper, Elza Kungaeva."
But, what about the whole kidnapping, murder, and rape portion? Does the article you've referenced include that? Killing an enemy soldier is not the same as kidnapping them, raping them, and then murdering them, guy.
[QUOTE=Mr. Bleak;30391437]But, what about the whole kidnapping, murder, and rape portion? Does the article you've referenced include that? Killing an enemy soldier is not the same as kidnapping them, raping them, and then murdering them, guy.[/QUOTE] It doesn't, but I am absolutely sure most of that is bullshit.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;30391107]All he did was kill a sniper(yes, that 18 year old girl was a sniper, not an innocent civilian), and he was made a war criminal only because Chechnya asked Putin to, and Putin wants Russia to have better relationships with Chechnya. You should hear the whole story before hoping that someone died painfully. Asshole.[/QUOTE] You forget to mention the torture and unlawful detainment of said sniper before she was murdered (not [I]killed[/I]), at least thats what he was prosecuted with. [quote]In downtown Moscow, the hero of Russia, Col. Yuri Budanov was killed[/quote]That sentence doesn't seem to have any bias whatsoever, nosirey
No, because "Hero of the Russian Federation" is a title, there is nothing biased in pointing out that he had that title.
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;30391642]No, because "Hero of the Russian Federation" is a title, there is nothing biased in pointing out that he had that title.[/QUOTE] wait, he's a hero and a convicted war criminal? how does that make any sense
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;30391107]All he did was kill a sniper(yes, that 18 year old girl was a sniper, not an innocent civilian), and he was made a war criminal only because Chechnya asked Putin to, and Putin wants Russia to have better relationships with Chechnya. You should hear the whole story before hoping that someone died painfully. Asshole.[/QUOTE] So raping, torturing and then killing the prisoner is now allowed even though it is against the INTERNATIONAL laws, but DEAR OH GOD someone killed "Hero" that broke international laws. I'm sure you are one hell of a wonder boy in your country and worthy man, asshole.
maybe I'm missing something but I dont understand how you can reduce a civilian packed city to a stinking shit-filled rubble pile and then start handing out titles like "Hero of the Russian Federation".
[QUOTE=Careld;30391793]So raping, torturing and then killing the prisoner is now allowed even though it is against the INTERNATIONAL laws, but DEAR OH GOD someone killed "Hero" that broke international laws. I'm sure you are one hell of a wonder boy in your country and worthy man, asshole.[/QUOTE] I will not believe he raped her, unless I see evidence of that. So far, I am 100 percent sure that he didn't. And, by the way, he did spend 10 years in jail for the war crime. Killing him was absolutely unjustified, even if he did commit the war crime.
I despise you. You're apologetic for the killing of a civilian. I thought only amurricans would do that.
[QUOTE=Falchion;30391989]I despise you. You're apologetic for the killing of a [b]civilian[/b]. I thought only amurricans would do that.[/QUOTE] What part of "SNIPER" don't you understand?
[QUOTE=Laserbeams;30391897]I will not believe he raped her, unless I see evidence of that. So far, I am 100 percent sure that he didn't.[/QUOTE] Well since this news site tells us that HE kidnapped, raped and murdered the girl and other tells that the girl was sniper, we can play your game also. Since there is no real actual proof of she being sniper and he being kidnapping & raping murderer I believe that those who investigated death of that girl got results of why he was in the jail. But in interrigation girl could have just said that she was a sniper so they would release her from the pain one way or another.
[QUOTE=Careld;30392365]Well since this news site tells us that HE kidnapped, raped and murdered the girl and other tells that the girl was sniper, we can play your game also. Since there is no real actual proof of she being sniper and he being kidnapping & raping murderer I believe that those who investigated death of that girl got results of why he was in the jail. But in interrigation girl could have just said that she was a sniper so they would release her from the pain one way or another.[/QUOTE] Yes, there is no proof of either versions. I just defend the one that I believe in. There is something fishy about this case. The guy got killed, and of course, the assassin will never be found (and I can tell you with complete confidence that he won't). This is why I decided that the entire case is absolutely fake. You can have your own opinion Also, I can't believe Facepunch approves of him getting killed. What happened to "An eye for an eye makes the world go blind"? I'm leaving this thread, to hell with this, I'm obviously just wasting my time here, since unfortunately I can't convince you that he's innocent.
i haven't got any respect for chechnya, and the girl was a sniper. [editline]11th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Falchion;30391989]I despise you. You're apologetic for the killing of a civilian. I thought only amurricans would do that.[/QUOTE] stop being a nationalistic twat everyone freaks out when someone is killed, if you EVER support someone getting killed you're labeled a stupid freak that has no respect for human life yet you're all shouting hip hip hooray over the murder of a man who abused a captured sniper in the chechen war
[QUOTE=Falchion;30391989]I despise you. You're apologetic for the killing of a civilian. I thought only amurricans would do that.[/QUOTE] :frog:
[QUOTE=gudman;30388501]Yes. We've got another one - general of the army Shamanov. He's a war criminal. But instead, defending his ass, our gouvernment chose colonel Budanov to be war criminal. A lot of far worse people are still in high command of Russian army. But instead out gouvernment traded Budanov for them. Budanov wasn't an angel, but hell, it's not fair. And that Kadyrov piece of shit must be happy now.[/QUOTE] How about former Defense Minister Pavel Grachev?
Such is life in Moscow.
[QUOTE=SomTervo;30391742]wait, he's a hero and a convicted war criminal? how does that make any sense[/QUOTE] In capitalist Russia, war criminals rank above you.
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