Why no dead bin Laden photos? After being shot dead, "over 100 bullets" were fired into him, accordi - Polidicks

Normally I wouldn't post something sourcing from "confidential sources", but the two sites I have here are generally reliable. [quote]A new report at SOFREP, a website for U.S. special operations forces, claims to shed light on the issue of why photos of slain al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden's body were never released to the public. According to unnamed sources within the special ops community, the images would have been excessively gory, because contrary to reports from officials and those involved in the operation, U.S. troops fired countless rounds into bin Laden's body after killing him. In his book, "No Easy Day," Matt Bissonnette, a member of SEAL Team Six involved in the bin Laden raid, writes that he and another SEAL fired "several" rounds into bin Laden to make sure he was dead. But sources tell SOFREP the shooting was far more excessive.[/quote] [url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/03/13/osama-bin-laden-death-shooting_n_4958147.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular]HuffPost[/url] [quote]There are a lot of puzzled expressions on people’s faces when it comes to the subject of the late Osama Bin Laden and why the White House has not authorized the release of any pictures of the body. Photographs and video were released of Saddam Hussein’s hanging, as well as post-mortem pictures of his criminal sons, Uday and Qusay, after Delta Force took them out. Why not release a few pictures of Public Enemy #1 to prove that he is dead and show the world what happens when you take on the US of A? Matt Bissonnette, one of the SEAL Team Six operators on the raid, partially outs the reason in his book, No Easy Day. The book reads, “In his death throes, he was still twitching and convulsing. Another assaulter and I trained our lasers on his chest and fired several rounds. The bullets tore into him, slamming his body into the floor until he was motionless” (No Easy Day, Chapter 15). But this is perhaps the most measured and polite description that one could give of how operator after operator took turns dumping magazines-worth of ammunition into Bin Laden’s body, two confidential sources within the community have told us. When all was said and done, UBL had over a hundred bullets in him, by the most conservative estimate. But was it illegal? Under the Laws of Land Warfare, a soldier is fully authorized to put a few insurance rounds into his target after he goes down. Provided the enemy is not surrendering, it is morally, legally, and ethically appropriate to shoot the body a few times to ensure that he is really dead and no longer a threat. However, what happened on the Bin Laden raid is beyond excessive. The level of excess shown was not about making sure that Bin Laden was no longer a threat. The excess was pure self-indulgence.[/quote] [url=http://sofrep.com/33599/why-us-govt-hasnt-released-photos-ubl-corpse/]SOFREP[/url]

Maybe they don't release pictures of a dead Bin Laden because they dont want to give any radical dickholes any more reason to rally together? Giving them pictures of dead Bin Laden just gives them something central to rally around and plan their happy martyr annual picnic to whatever country they want to try and jab next. Although really, who even cares any more, he's dead and really that's the end of it, would it be any different if they slit his throat, shot him to pieces, dropped a 500 pound bomb on his face or even dropped a fucking piano on him.

Well... atleast they made sure he was dead?

Who gives a shit, really They didn't take pictures and dumped his ass in an unmarked sea grave at large because they didn't want to create a martyr/pilgrimage place for nutjobs, that's it.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44234920]Maybe they don't release pictures of a dead Bin Laden because they dont want to give any radical dickholes any more reason to rally together? Giving them pictures of dead Bin Laden just gives them something central to rally around and plan their happy martyr annual picnic to whatever country they want to try and jab next. Although really, who even cares any more, he's dead and really that's the end of it, would it be any different if they slit his throat, shot him to pieces, dropped a 500 pound bomb on his face or even dropped a fucking piano on him.[/QUOTE] Because if there's one way to both kill someone and shame their entire personal belief system, it's crushing them with a piano.

I can understand why the guys fired excessive rounds into the body; after all, this was the guy who was responsible for many things that brought gloom over the Americans. However, I would have expected trained SEAL operators to show some restraint for the very reason that they need pictures of the body as proof. Careless but understandable really.

[QUOTE=woolio1;44234939]Because if there's one way to both kill someone and shame their entire personal belief system, it's crushing them with a piano.[/QUOTE] That's the American way ;_;7

They basically went inglurious basterds on him.

[QUOTE=agentalexandre;44234946]I can understand why the guys fired excessive rounds into the body; after all, this was the guy who was responsible for many things that brought gloom over the Americans. However, I would have expected trained SEAL operators to show some restraint for the very reason that they need pictures of the body as proof. Careless but understandable really.[/QUOTE] I know I'm gonna sound like a "911 was an inside job maaaaan Obama is really an alien doooood" type crazy conspiracy theorist but: This is the exact reason why I'm still sort of suspicious about this whole thing. It doesn't make any sense, the facts dont really stack up. The operators would have known to show restraint...

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;44234931]Well... atleast they made sure he was dead?[/QUOTE] Who knows, he could've been building up a strong immunity to lead during life.

[QUOTE=agentalexandre;44234946]I can understand why the guys fired excessive rounds into the body; after all, this was the guy who was responsible for many things that brought gloom over the Americans. However, I would have expected trained SEAL operators to show some restraint for the very reason that they need pictures of the body as proof. Careless but understandable really.[/QUOTE] Pretty much. You'd think highly trained special ops soldiers would be able to set aside their anger and act more professionally while on mission.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44234936]Who gives a shit, really They didn't take pictures and dumped his ass in an unmarked sea grave at large because they didn't want to create a martyr/pilgrimage place for nutjobs, that's it.[/QUOTE] [quote]You may not care if Bin Laden got some extra holes punched in him, few of us do, but what should concern you is a trend within certain special operations units to engage in this type of self-indulgent, and ultimately criminal, behavior. Gone unchecked, these actions get worse over time. The real issue is not that Bin Laden was turned into Swiss cheese, but rather that this type of behavior has become a Standard Operating Procedure in this unit. Of course, these attitudes and behaviors do not come out of nowhere. Endless back-to-back combat deployments, PTSD, broken families, and war itself all plays into it. Now you know the real reason why the Obama administration has not released pictures of Osama Bin Laden’s corpse. To do so would show the world a body filled with a ridiculous number of gunshot wounds. The picture itself would likely cause an international scandal, and investigations would be conducted which could uncover other operations, activities which many will do anything to keep buried.[/quote] [quote]Initial reports claimed two shots were fired to kill bin Laden. While that number climbed in later reports, the claims of "over a hundred bullets" would suggest a level of savagery and, as SOFREP puts it, "self-indulgence" not admitted in prior accounts of the operation. SOFREP notes these actions would violate the Laws of Land Warfare and build on a disturbing trend of alarmingly brutal military behavior that includes graphic evidence of U.S. troops burning and urinating on slain enemy combatants.[/quote]

[QUOTE=ShadowSocks8;44234969]I know I'm gonna sound like a "911 was an inside job maaaaan Obama is really an alien doooood" type crazy conspiracy theorist but: This is the exact reason why I'm still sort of suspicious about this whole thing. It doesn't make any sense, the facts dont really stack up. The operators would have known to show restraint...[/QUOTE] Why would they even mention photos if they didn't have any? It'd be like just out of blue mentioning that there were demolition charges they were keeping around in the twin towers, but they didn't explode, so don't worry.

They're rebuilding him to become Mecha-Bin-Laden.

the Seal team 6 osama selfie won't see the light of day; the U.S government has a duty that cannot allow such a selfie out into the world But regardless like people have said; he already dead so what's the point?

So it seems he's alive if no pics :v: [video=youtube;pzfXNJmQ9T4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzfXNJmQ9T4[/video]

What if Osama is hiding in a cave somewhere with no contact with the world except through his followers, and is spotted years later trying to buy old newspapers to read his own obituary?

[QUOTE=Krinkels;44235140]What if Osama is hiding in a cave somewhere with no contact with the world except through his followers, and is spotted years later trying to buy old newspapers to read his own obituary?[/QUOTE] the U.S. Navy will airdrop a nuclear submarine on his last known position; and possibly launch a weather balloon that may or may not be swamp gas. Also [thumb]http://dronewarsuk.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/predator-firing-missile4.jpg[/thumb] [img]http://notestomymuses.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/man-reading-paper-over-coffee.jpg[/img]

" The excess was pure self-indulgence. " i do believe that all of those present that day can say their fellow countryman if not friends / family have suffered because of this man's actions. Self-indulgence might be an inappropreiate term if your goal is to represent what truely happend that day.

Self indulgence or otherwise Bin Laden deserved every bullet he caught in that exchange.

This is probably the same kind of situation as "Gross misconduct! police shoot assailant 50 times". Except the soldiers probably had automatics.

You know what comes to mind? [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7uwStkP9hA[/media] This.

Well if that's true, than professionalism of those sent to kill him should be questioned. Regardless of how you see your enemy, you as a soldier, spec-ops even, are expected to have some restraint. That's no warcrime, or even a crime at all in my eyes, but from professional standpoint it's kind of very strange thing to do.

[QUOTE=gudman;44235396]Well if that's true, than professionalism of those sent to kill him should be questioned. Regardless of how you see your enemy, you as a soldier, spec-ops even, are expected to have some restraint. That's no warcrime, or even a crime at all in my eyes, but from professional standpoint it's kind of very strange thing to do.[/QUOTE] Indeed they were special forces so they should have some trigger discipline, who mysteriously died in a chopper accident short time afterwards.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44234936]Who gives a shit, really They didn't take pictures and dumped his ass in an unmarked sea grave at large because they didn't want to create a martyr/pilgrimage place for nutjobs, that's it.[/QUOTE] Should have released a picture of him being swiss cheese. Mess with U.S. and this is what your gonna look like.

[QUOTE=Ganerumo;44234936]Who gives a shit, really They didn't take pictures and dumped his ass in an unmarked sea grave at large because they didn't want to create a martyr/pilgrimage place for nutjobs, [i]that's it[/i].[/QUOTE] How do you know? How can you be so absolutely sure?

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;44236117]How do you know? How can you be so absolutely sure?[/QUOTE] Probably because it's the most reasonable course of action and he's pretty sure about it cause he's probably not into that conspiracy hype. You know, like normal people.

[QUOTE=bravehat;44236199]Probably because it's the most reasonable course of action and he's pretty sure about it cause he's probably not into that conspiracy hype. You know, like normal people.[/QUOTE] His own personal assumptions, then. Thats what I figured.

[QUOTE=RosettaStoned;44236303]His own personal assumptions, then. Thats what I figured.[/QUOTE] Right, let's just say for a second, he wasn't riddled full of rounds and dropped in the ocean, what happened?

I am slow