Israel Unlikely To Warn U.S. In Advance Of Attack On Iran - Polidicks

[QUOTE]Israel is unlikely to provide much if any advance notice to the United States if it attacks Iran's nuclear facilities, Middle East experts say.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Advance warning is important because a surprise could hurt the U.S.' ability to respond and safeguard its many assets in the Persian Gulf. The assumption is that U.S. warning of an Israeli attack would come "significantly less than an hour" before it began, said Jon Alterman, director of the Middle East program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. "How much of that would come from Israeli notification and how much would come from sensors we have in the region, I don't know." In the past, Israel has given the Americans "very general notice," said Yoram Peri, director of the Israel studies program at the University of Maryland. "They would never talk in advance." For example, Israel unilaterally attacked nuclear facilities in Iraq in 1981 and Syria in 2007 and didn't give the United States advance warning. That puts the United States at a disadvantage. Getting a warning would allow the United States to reposition military and other assets to defend against a counterattack by Iran or its surrogates in the Gulf and around the world, says Michele Dunne, an analyst with the Atlantic Council. A unilateral attack without warning could also hurt relations between Israel and the United States. Israel and the United States agree Iran should not be allowed to build a nuclear weapon. But Israel appears to be running out of patience quicker than the United States. The divergence of views was evident in Jerusalem earlier this month, when Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told Defense Secretary Leon Panetta that the "time to resolve this issue peacefully is running out." Panetta said non-military pressure on Iran should be exhausted first, such as sanctions designed to squeeze Iran's economy. "We will not allow Iran to develop a nuclear weapon," he said. Danny Danon, deputy speaker of the Israeli parliament, said an Israeli strike against multiple targets spread across Iran would likely last several days and would not be quick strikes, such as the attacks on Syria and Iraq. He said he hopes the United States joins in, but says Israel will go it alone if necessary. "We cannot afford to make the mistake and take the chance of allowing Iran to become nuclear. It could damage the United States, but for Israel it could be deadly," Danon said. Martin Indyk, U.S. ambassador to Israel under President Clinton and now director of the foreign policy program of the Brookings Institution, doesn't think Israel will strike before the U.S. presidential election in November because it would be disruptive at a time when Israel would need U.S. help. Whether Israel needs U.S. diplomatic support, help dealing with Iranian counterattacks or to replenish U.S.-supplied weapons expended in the attack, "he surely knows he's going to need the United States," Indyk said. The United States might provide assistance initially, but in the long run it could hurt diplomatic relations if the United States gets dragged into another long war in the Middle East, Alterman said. "It creates the potential to change the way the American public starts to think about the alignment between the United States and Israel," Alterman said.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-08-22/israel-attack-iran-usa/57218614/1[/url]

What's with you and Israel?

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Wow, why are we even allies with this country?

So, despite iran threatening to attack US bases if you attack them, you're NOT going to inform them if you attack iran? Israel what the fuck.

Am I the only one who feels like Israel is looking for an excuse to attack Iran? I mean, I know it must be tense to live so close to people who want to murder you, but come on.

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[QUOTE=_Kent_;37366849]Wow, why are we even allies with this country?[/QUOTE] Because it gives the US a massive influence on trade within the Middle East, that's why.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;37366496]What's with you and Israel?[/QUOTE] 10 posts, at least 9 of them threads relating to israel or the middle east, are you really surprised he makes another on something hardly considered news?

Maybe it's on a personal level. Maybe Israeli soldiers murdered his sheep herd.

I find it funny how people say that the U.S. should stay out of this and let Israel deal with it themselves, yet when this comes up, people get mad about it. Yes I understand that this affects U.S. assets in the region but considering Obama's current stance on this issue, as well as his constant urging of Israel to delay the strike until after his re election shows that he actually is against the strike. This is basically the reason as to why Israel is more or less refusing to warn the U.S. and rightfully so considering they are more than capable of striking Iran's nuclear facilities on their own. Also the carrier groups stationed in the Persian Gulf have radar systems that are highly capable of detecting incoming missile's from far distances.

[QUOTE=tesher07;37367406]I find it funny how people say that the U.S. should stay out of this and let Israel deal with it themselves, yet when this comes up, people get mad about it. Yes I understand that this affects U.S. assets in the region but considering Obama's current stance on this issue, as well as his constant urging of Israel to delay the strike until after his re election shows that he actually is against the strike. This is basically the reason as to why Israel is more or less refusing to warn the U.S. and rightfully so considering they are more than capable of striking Iran's nuclear facilities on their own. Also the carrier groups stationed in the Persian Gulf have radar systems that are highly capable of detecting incoming missile's from far distances.[/QUOTE] OK sure thing, but if they wish to not warn the U.S. in advance of a strike, it will be only fair for the U.S. to say "fuck em" The only reason why people are getting pissed is because we know that the U.S. will assist Israel. You know, for a nation that is the largest recipient of U.S. aid, that is constantly shielded at the UNSC, and the fact the US has passed [URL="http://www.bis.doc.gov/complianceandenforcement/antiboycottcompliance.htm"]anti-free speech laws in favor of Israel[/URL] (its illegal for any US Citizen [I]individual[/I] or business to boycott Israeli products in the US*), you'd expect Israel to let the U.S. know in advance if they're going to strike Iran, so they aren't caught by surprise. [quote]The antiboycott provisions of the Export Administration Regulations (EAR) apply to the activities of U.S. persons in the interstate or foreign commerce of the United States. [B]The term "U.S. person" includes all individuals[/B], corporations and unincorporated associations resident in the United States, including the permanent domestic affiliates of foreign concerns. U.S. persons also include U.S. citizens abroad (except when they reside abroad and are employed by non-U.S. persons) and the controlled in fact affiliates of domestic concerns. Conduct that may be penalized under the TRA and/or prohibited under the EAR includes: -Agreements to refuse or actual refusal to do business with or in Israel or with blacklisted companies.[/quote]

Man I hate seeing these Israel threads. Always makes me feel bad for my friend who got conscripted. I really hope he doesn't get in infantry.

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