Jeremy Renner once again antagonizes feminists: says it's 'not his job' to help female co-stars nego
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[quote]Jennifer Lawrence recently penned a hotly-discussed essay about the wage disparity in Hollywood.
The essay, which was published in Lena Dunham's newsletter, Lenny, noted that the actress was paid significantly less than her male co-stars in the movie "American Hustle." So was her co-star Amy Adams.
Fellow female stars like Jessica Chastain and Rooney Mara have since said they've been paid less than male co-stars too, and Sienna Miller said she turned down a role in a play that was offering significantly less than the male lead was given.
Bradley Cooper, who starred in "American Hustle" with Lawrence and Adams in 2013 and negotiated a higher contract than them, was so taken aback by Lawrence's essay that he told Reuters he wants to begin teaming up with his female co-stars to negotiate fair salaries together before committing to a film.
But not every actor is planning to go as far as Cooper.
Business Insider asked Jeremy Renner, who also starred in "American Hustle," if he would also be willing to negotiate alongside his female co-stars on future projects. He also was paid more than Adams and Lawrence for his role in the film, according to a Sony email leaked during the hack on the company.
[B]"That's not my job," Renner said, while taking part in an intimate press day on Tuesday for the new "One Life/Live Them" campaign he's doing for Remy Martin Cognac.
"I don't know contracts and money and all that sort of stuff," Renner went on to say.[/B]
Adding he fully supports actresses receiving equal pay as actors, he said he's more focused on his craft than what everyone is making.
[B]"I'm a performer and I know human behavior. When it comes to that sort of stuff I let other people deal with that," said the two-time Oscar nominee. "I do what I'm good at, that's what I focus on."[/B]
It should be noted that actors and actresses are rarely involved in the negotiating process and leave the deals to agents, managers, and lawyers.
This is evident, as most of the actresses who have spoken out recently about the wage disparity issue have noted that they only learned about how much more their male actors were paid long after they worked on the film.
[B]Cooper also told Reuters, "Usually you don't talk about the financial stuff, you have people."[/B]
Lawrence, who Forbes named 2015's world's highest-paid actress with $52 million (Robert Downey Jr. was the highest-paid actor in 2015 with $80 million), said in her essay that she learned how much Cooper, Renner, and the other male actors made on "American Hustle" through the emails leaked following the Sony hack. And that she wasn't mad at Sony, which released the film, but herself for giving up too early in the negotiation process.
"But if I'm honest with myself," she went on to write in the essay, "I would be lying if I didn't say there was an element of wanting to be liked that influenced my decision to close the deal without a real fight. I didn't want to seem 'difficult' or 'spoiled.' At the time, that seemed like a fine idea, until I saw the payroll on the Internet and realized every man I was working with definitely didn't worry about being 'difficult' or 'spoiled.'"[/quote]
Renner was already a subject of controversy after during an interview he, along with Chris Evans, made a remark about Black Widow and called her "a slut".
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Male actors should negotiate for female actors... Are you kidding me? It's called put on your big girl pants, and actually be willing to play hardball, if you cannot do that on your own, you shouldn't be apart of an industry based around contract employment like the acting and theater industries.
yeah he's right it isn't his job that's what agents are for
He's right though, his job is to act.
If women actors feel underpaid, I'd like to counterpoint with the female cast of Friends. Jennifer Aniston, Lisa Kudrow and Courteney Cox are the highest paid actresses of all time, with earnings up to a million per episode. (And a million per episode for two seasons.)
The money's there for actresses. Saying there's unfairness is most likely complete shit, but even if there is unfairness, it's not someone else's job to negotiate your salary. Except your agent's.
I don't see how he's antagonizing anybody honestly, unless there's some straw feminists in the audience. That's a pretty neutral and matter-of-fact statement and you'd have to really dig through the loonie bin to find somebody who takes serious offense to it.
boo fucking hoo he made $20,000,00 and i only made $19,500,000 how will i ever afford that sixth mansion now
[QUOTE=Protocol7;48947217]If women actors feel underpaid, I'd like to counterpoint with the female cast of Friends. Jennifer Aniston, Lisa Kudrow and Courteney Cox are the highest paid actresses of all time, with earnings up to a million per episode. (And a million per episode for two seasons.)
The money's there for actresses. Saying there's unfairness is most likely complete shit, but even if there is unfairness, it's not someone else's job to negotiate your salary. Except your agent's.[/QUOTE]
There is unfairness because those three were the least funny of them all :P
Hes right though.
Why is it his job to negotiate for other people? Why are people fucking retarded?
Why cant actresses and their agents negotiate? Why is it someone elses job?
he kind of has a point, its up to the agents to negotiate, and the stars themselves to be more aggressive i guess
anyways what someone gets paid on contract is completely arbitrary anyways, RDJ was paid less than Terrance Howard in Ironman yet he was the star of the movie
Okay I don't understand all of this faux offended shit that people have so maybe I'm wrong here, but how the fuck is it not more offensive to suggest that women need a man's help to negotiate for more pay?
[QUOTE][B]Adding he fully supports actresses receiving equal pay as actors[/B], he said he's more focused on his craft than what everyone is making.[/QUOTE]
Why not bold this part, OP. This guy doesn't really seem like a male chauvanistic pig to me.
Maybe because that indeed is not his job? Like he said, it's agents who take care of that shit.
Hey or we could read the article and see the context here instead of getting angry! Nobody said that it is his job to negotiate higher contracts for other people, hes just saying that he won't help them out at all. This is all in response to Bradley Cooper saying that he would do what he can to ensure actresses get paid properly.
Her essay quite literally says "I compromised so as not to cause a fuss and nobody else did, I wish I'd caused a fuss and gotten paid more". That's it.
Honestly, I find it hard to trust these articles when consistently it turns out either there were bigger stars in the movie than the person claiming to have been underpaid or despite working for less time on a movie they ended up making more than their coworkers anyway, just not in total, but rather than stratifying the data to represent that they decide to go with the pay gap article.
I don't even know how you can argue about even wages when it comes to the film industry anyway, Robert Downey Jr makes fat stacks for cash just for a small part in a movie just because he's RDJ. Your pay is going to be largely influenced by the negotiating ability of your agent and your star power, resulting in a lot of variation in what you end up being paid.
OP are you outraged??
Do these studies on the alleged salary gap take their role significance and screen time into account at all?
[QUOTE=Octavius;48947860]Hey or we could read the article and see the context here instead of getting angry! Nobody said that it is his job to negotiate higher contracts for other people, hes just saying that he won't help them out at all. This is all in response to Bradley Cooper saying that he would do what he can to ensure actresses get paid properly.[/QUOTE]
That's not what he said.
How do you bitch about people not reading the article when you yourself fail to do so?
He was simply saying "My agents negotiate for me. Why don't hers?"
How you can manage to take offense to this is way beyond me.
It's not though... like seriously. Shit he even says he fully supports all this, just it's not his expertise, normally you literally hire people to do that.
cry me a $52 million dollar river. if you want to be payed equally learn to be assertive and get in there and learn to negotiate. and ofc they'd start bitching for more money long AFTER the fact they've already been paid.
He actually said its not his job to negotiate [i]his[/i] salary either. He said he doesn't deal with contracts and money. I took that more as he wouldn't be able to help and he just lets his agent handle it.
Sorry not seeing any kind of antagonism here.
What I do see is an article by a guy who tweeted offense at Renner's golden globe quip.
[QUOTE=27X;48950389]Sorry not seeing any kind of antagonism here.
What I do see is an article by a guy who tweeted offense at Renner's golden globe quip.[/QUOTE]
Men are obliged to help save the damsel in distress, how else are we going to get rid of gender norms?
[QUOTE=Devodiere;48950473]Men are obliged to help save the damsel in distress, how else are we going to get rid of gender norms?[/QUOTE]
By making everyone hemaphrodites
Yeah, fuck the guy for doing his job and not trying to do stuff he knows nothing about.
maybe i just don't understand but isn't the goal of these feminists to make women more independent and be able to achieve the same salaries, benefits etc as men without facing adversity? why would male coworker's be forced to help them? to me, it doesn't sound like that makes them any less dependent on a supposed male-centric workplace, and just gives men more power to dictate how women should receive pay.
Why should someone be responsible for the negotiation of wages for their co-workers.
[QUOTE=Keelwar;48952597]maybe i just don't understand but isn't the goal of these feminists to make women more independent and be able to achieve the same salaries, benefits etc as men without facing adversity? why would male coworker's be forced to help them? to me, it doesn't sound like that makes them any less dependent on a supposed male-centric workplace, and just gives men more power to dictate how women should receive pay.[/QUOTE]
If anything, this is offensive to actual feminists. As you said, the point is to prove that women don't need no man, not the opposite.
It's undeniable that Hollywood has some severe issues with women being relegated to secondary roles and big producers straight up cutting budgets for movies with a female lead (happened to Sicario, notably), but I fail to see how it's Jeremy Renner, or really any other actor's job to work against that.
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