• Senators Introduce Constitutional Amendment To Overturn Citizens United
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[b]Senators Introduce Constitutional Amendment To Overturn Citizens United[/b] [release]One of the overarching themes of the 99 Percent Movement is that our democracy is too corrupted by corporate special interests. This corruption was worsened last year by the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision, which allowed for huge new unregulated flows of corporate political spending. Yesterday, six Democratic senators — Tom Udall (NM), Michael Bennett (CO), Tom Harkin (IA), Dick Durbin (IL), Chuck Schumer (NY), Sheldon Whitehouse (RI), and Jeff Merkely (OR) — introduced a constitutional amendment that would effectively overturn the Citizens United case and restore the ability of Congress to properly regulate the campaign finance system. The amendment as filed resolves that both Congress and individual states shall have the power to regulate both the amount of contributions made directly to candidates for elected office and “the amount of expenditures that may be made by, in support of, or in opposition to such candidates.” “By limiting the influence of big money in politics, elections can be more about the voters and their voices, not big money donors and their deep pockets,” said Harkin of the amendment. “We need to have a campaign finance structure that limits the influence of the special interests and restores confidence in our democracy. This amendment goes to the heart of that effort.” Passing this amendment or any other amendment to the Constitution is an arduous process. There are two ways to propose a constitutional amendment. Either two-thirds of Congress can agree to an amendment or there can be a constitutional amendment called by two-thirds of state legislatures (this path has never been taken). In order to ratify an amendment, three-quarters of state legislatures must agree or three-quarters of states must have individual constitutional conventions that agree.[/release] Source: [url]http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2011/11/02/358694/senators-introduce-citizens-united-amendment/[/url] A good step but not enough as this will not do what we need it to do. It puts no limits to how much a person gives, basically keeping the door open to corruption.
Hey man. Corporations are people. So in a way, there's already no limit on how much a persons give.
Well, a step forward is a step forward no matter how small.
Republican response: "Lol, no."
I want to see a corporation's birth certificate.
And we'll never hear of this again
I came in assuming this was bad...but now I understand.
This is a good thing, right?
I've never seen the amendment process in action, so this will be interesting.
[QUOTE=A B.A. Survivor;33109295]I've never seen the amendment process in action, so this will be interesting.[/QUOTE] Yes, it will be very interesting to see it squashed early in the process. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] even if the amendment got to the ratification process, i doubt it would get enough states to ratify it
Republicans with make-or break voting power. Lol nope to anything helping the poor man.
Republicans shoot down everything the democrats put up, even if its something the Republicans agree with, there is no way in hell they will successfully pass this amendment. I wish they could however, that was honestly one of the worst supreme court decisions ever made.
Well technically if Corporations are considered a person they are psychopathic schiztoids who care for nothing and should really be an institution.
Republicans will vote no and confirm what we already knew.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;33107977]Republican response: "Lol, no."[/QUOTE] Yeah, because democrats are angels and don't ever abuse the system :downs:
[QUOTE=bohb;33111634]Yeah, because democrats are angels and don't ever abuse the system :downs:[/QUOTE] How could they be angels if they're all communist muslim atheist hitlers
Chances are they'll never overturn the decision, regardless of how unpopular it was. Soon it'll be forgotten and people won't even remember why private corporations can essentially fund an entire election campaign. Just like the [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London]Kelo v. City of New London[/url] decision, which threw the property rights of ordinary citizens out the window to let private corporations build whatever they wanted wherever they wanted, the controversy will die down and it'll never get fixed.
[QUOTE=bohb;33111634]Yeah, because democrats are angels and don't ever abuse the system :downs:[/QUOTE] They're the lesser evil, and that's been proven plenty of times.
[QUOTE=bohb;33111634]Yeah, because democrats are angels and don't ever abuse the system :downs:[/QUOTE] Of course not, but on the whole, the Republicans do it more. Believe you me, I'd love for both of them to stop filibustering and taking corporate handouts, but that isn't the case right now.
[QUOTE=Nikota;33107263]Hey man. Corporations are people. So in a way, there's already no limit on how much a persons give.[/QUOTE] No, they're not. They're clearly GROUPS of people, not people themselves, and groups of people do not function at all like people.
[QUOTE=bohb;33111634]Yeah, because democrats are angels and don't ever abuse the system :downs:[/QUOTE] hi there new guy. i dont quite recognize you but, like any poster, i'd like to built up a rapport with you so posting experiences on all sides may be improved. what, exactly, were you intending to accomplish with this post of yours? i genuinely want to know and am eagerly awaiting your reply [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Megafanx13;33111739]Of course not, but on the whole, the Republicans do it more. Believe you me, I'd love for both of them to stop filibustering and taking corporate handouts, but that isn't the case right now.[/QUOTE] Uhh, no. Both parties do it constantly. The difference being the Republicans realize that pointing out the Democrats do it would be the pot calling the kettle black. [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=SigmaLambda;33111776]hi there new guy. i dont quite recognize you but, like any poster, i'd like to built up a rapport with you so posting experiences on all sides may be improved. what, exactly, were you intending to accomplish with this post of yours? i genuinely want to know and am eagerly awaiting your reply [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-allears.gif[/IMG][/QUOTE] I'm guessing he's pointing out the fact that both parties are shit and abuse the very system they've created for their own gain, and often at the expense of the general population.
[QUOTE=Ridge;33112255]Uhh, no. Both parties do it constantly. The difference being the Republicans realize that pointing out the Democrats do it would be the pot calling the kettle black.[/QUOTE] lmao you seriously think the republicans have a problem calling Democrats out for shit they already do? [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] you are so politically naive you should probably just stop posting
[QUOTE=Lazor;33112269]lmao you seriously think the republicans have a problem calling Democrats out for shit they already do? [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] you are so politically naive you should probably just stop posting[/QUOTE] I never said they never did that, just they know something that public and obvious is stupid and petty. Why don't you get over you fucking self and realize that people have different opinions, and aren't always wrong just because they clash with your preconcieved notions?
[QUOTE=Ridge;33112287]I never said they never did that, just they know something that public and obvious is stupid and petty. Why don't you get over you fucking self and realize that people have different opinions, and aren't always wrong just because they clash with your preconcieved notions?[/QUOTE] Aren't you technically doing the same.
republicans are well known for showing restraint when it comes to obvious and petty things like birth certificates
[QUOTE=Miskav;33112309]Aren't you technically doing the same.[/QUOTE] Are you suggesting that politicians are saints with no moral shortcomings simply because they ally themselves with a different ideology? [editline]3rd November 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Lazor;33112323]republicans are well known for showing restraint when it comes to obvious and petty things like birth certificates[/QUOTE] I guess it's a good thing for me that I'm not a Republican, then, so I don't fall into your sweeping generalization.
when did i ever say i was talking about you we were clearly talking about republican attitudes you narcissistic twat
[QUOTE=Lazor;33112793]when did i ever say i was talking about you we were clearly talking about republican attitudes you narcissistic twat[/QUOTE] You were insinuating it.
no i wasn't. we were talking about republicans. i was talking about republicans. unless you are a republican, there is nothing implied in my post beyond that. hell i used the fucking exact same phrasing as you when talking about the republicans "obvious and petty"
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