US Senate passes controversial cybersecurity bill CISA 74 to 21 - Polidicks

[quote]The US Senate overwhelmingly passed a controversial cybersecurity bill critics say will allow the government to collect sensitive personal data unchecked, over the objections of civil liberties groups and many of the biggest names in the tech sector. The vote on Tuesday was 74 to 21 in support of the legislation. Democratic presidential contender Bernie Sanders voted against the bill. None of the Republican presidential candidates (except Lindsey Graham, who voted in favor) were present to cast a vote, including Rand Paul, who has made privacy from surveillance a major plank of his campaign platform. Ahead of the vote a group of university professors specializing in tech law, many from the Princeton Center for Information Technology Policy, sent an open letter to the Senate, urging them not to pass the bill. The bill, they wrote, would fatally undermine the Freedom of Information Act (Foia). Led by Princeton’s David S Levine, the group joined a chorus of critics including many of the largest technology companies, notably Apple, and National Security Agency (NSA) whistleblower Edward Snowden in calling for Cisa to be scrapped. Snowden, via Twitter, said that “a vote for Cisa is a vote against the internet.” Cisa would “allow ‘voluntary’ sharing of heretofore private information with the government, allowing secret and ad hoc privacy intrusions in place of meaningful consideration of the privacy concerns of all Americans,” the professors wrote. “The Freedom of Information Act would be neutralized, while a cornucopia of federal agencies could have access to the public’s heretofore private-held information with little fear that such sharing would ever be known to those whose information was shared.”[/quote] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/27/cisa-cybersecurity-bill-senate-vote[/url]

Not a fan of CISA, but it was basically inevitable that something like it would be passed and then fought about in political spheres around the world. We want privacy, but governments want to know who is saying what. Conflicts will obviously arise.

[url]https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/754/all-info[/url] this is bad

[URL=http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=114&session=1&vote=00291]Here's a link[/URL] to the Senate roll call list for the votes, if you're into that sort of thing.

Good to know that both reps from my state voted in favor.

Man why is everyone so against the internet? It's literally the best thing to happen to the human race since fire.

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;48997664]Man why is everyone so against the internet? It's literally the best thing to happen to the human race since fire.[/QUOTE] Cause it's hard to control and the government ain't havin that shit, also old people eat da poo poo [editline]27th October 2015[/editline] Wow I hate maine even more now

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;48997664]Man why is everyone so against the internet? It's literally the best thing to happen to the human race since fire.[/QUOTE] there was also wheel and electricity, but i see what you mean.

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;48997664]Man why is everyone so against the internet?[/QUOTE]because it is wild, unregulated and out of the control of greedy senators, ministers and corporate bosses

[QUOTE=Banhfunbags;48997664]Man why is everyone so against the internet? It's literally the best thing to happen to the human race since fire.[/QUOTE] Because unlike the TV news and such, the U.S. government can't really control the flow of information all too well on the Internet without a ton of people noticing. Basically, this: [QUOTE=Joazzz;48997754]because it is wild, unregulated and out of the control of greedy senators, ministers and corporate bosses[/QUOTE] While I don't disagree with some of the supporters of such a bill on that better cyber-security policies are needed, I find it downright hypocritical and revealing that instead of beefing up the U.S. govt.'s OWN defenses, they go ahead and start going full Orwellian on us. The worst part for me is that hardly anyone I know offline knows squat about CISA, what it does, or its potential long-term effects.

[QUOTE=Joazzz;48997754]because it is wild, unregulated and out of the control of greedy senators, ministers and corporate bosses[/QUOTE] Except corporate ads and the NSA. Subsections of some small subsections of the internet are "wild and unregulated" but the vast majority of people use the internet in pretty tame and regulated ways.

glad to see my two state reps voted for it :goodjob: would have expected different from two dems, but oh well.

People don't seem to be getting all uppity about it.

so is there a way i can willingly sell all my user data that is normally collected by corporations and governments so i can at least get some compensation?

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48997839]so is there a way i can willingly sell all my user data that is normally collected by corporations and governments so i can at least get some compensation?[/QUOTE] Why would they pay you for what they can have for free?

[QUOTE=valkery;48997849]Why would they pay you for what they can have for free?[/QUOTE] hey i'd let them implant a chip in me to monitor everything about me and my health, privacy has been dead for a while now and fighting for it is a lost cause, might as well jump into it early so i am used to it when it is required either de jure or de facto

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;48997867]hey i'd let them implant a chip in me to monitor everything about me and my health, privacy has been dead for a while now and fighting for it is a lost cause, might as well jump into it early so i am used to it when it is required either de jure or de facto[/QUOTE] That's such a sad thought. But if you find a company that does it, pm me because I'd like to capitalize on that shit asap.

Did a rundown by party lines, it ended up about as you'd expect. [U]Total: 100[/U] Yea: 74 Nay: 21 N/A: 5 [U]Republicans: 57[/U] Yea: 43 Nay: 6 N/A: 5 [U]Democrats: 41[/U] Yea: 30 Nay: 14 [U]Independent: 2[/U] Yea: 1 Nay: 1 (Hello, Bernie Sanders) [editline]27th October 2015[/editline] Both my asshole Senators voted for this, one of them Dem.

[QUOTE=ZeDoctor;48997600]Good to know that both reps from my state voted in favor.[/QUOTE] Mine too! Dammit, Alexander. We didn't name a road after you so you could run off to Congress and be an asshole.

What'll be much more concerning to me is that people who watch the TV quite a bit will more than likely to have never even hear about this bill. Gotta' love for-profit news for not worrying about these things either.

[QUOTE=valkery;48997872]That's such a sad thought. But if you find a company that does it, pm me because I'd like to capitalize on that shit asap.[/QUOTE] i am actually beginning to consider it as a legitimate business venture, whoever does it first has the potential to be the world leader in datamining and that seems very lucrative

[QUOTE=lolo;48997988]What'll be much more concerning to me is that people who watch the TV quite a bit will more than likely to have never even hear about this bill. Gotta' love for-profit news for not worrying about these things either.[/QUOTE] I should probably talk to my editor about running a quick write-up in the paper.

Wow what the fuck. [QUOTE]The data in question would come from private industry, which mines everything from credit card statements to prescription drug purchase records to target advertising and tweak product lines. Indeed, much of it is detailed financial and health information the government has never had access to in any form. The bill’s proponents said the data would be “anonymized”. Cisa would create a program at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) through which corporations could share user data in bulk with several US government agencies. In exchange for participating, the companies would receive complete immunity from Freedom of Information Act requests and regulatory action relating to the data they share. DHS would then share the information throughout the government[/QUOTE] Game over in the war against mass-surveillance.

WHOA WHOA WHOA! Hold on there. Companies that give away data would receive IMMUNITY from FOIAs and regulatory action? Dear God, we're absolutely boned. Anyone know how difficult it is to move to Sweden?

[QUOTE=Xystus234;48998036]Wow what the fuck. Game over in the war against mass-surveillance.[/QUOTE] It's a good thing. Thank CISA for every day you're not threatened or shot by some gun nut asswipe. Apart from that, if you have nothing to hide, no reason to be afraid.

[QUOTE=CoixNiro;48998068]It's a good thing. Thank CISA for every day you're not threatened or shot by some gun nut asswipe. Apart from that, if you have nothing to hide, no reason to be afraid.[/QUOTE] Is this satire

Way to go Washington State, both our Democratic representatives voted in favor of this...

Here's the text of the bill. [URL]https://www.congress.gov/bill/114th-congress/senate-bill/754/text[/URL] It basically says that in the name of any "cybersecurity threat" or physical threat/act of crime of any kind, any private entity can share any kind information with the government, unless it identifies a specific person (unless of course you're the threat), and that it's perfectly legal. And that the government can do anything it wants with it.

My state senator was for this bill... yayyy maryland....*waves fingers like a flag* I'm honestly not sure how awful this could get. Are we talking full blown 1984?

[QUOTE=woolio1;48998065]WHOA WHOA WHOA! Hold on there. Companies that give away data would receive IMMUNITY from FOIAs and regulatory action? Dear God, we're absolutely boned. Anyone know how difficult it is to move to Sweden?[/QUOTE] Yeah. It feels like the plot of Mirror's Edge, honestly. All the pieces were falling into place while nobody was looking, and now the perfect structure for fascism has been built in a country that radically changes political leaders every 4 years. I feel like I might be one executive order away from having the officers show up at my door and telling me to come with them and not take anything. Who knows what the next president or the president after will believe is a true threat to national security? Anyone who is subversive to the "American Way?" Are we standing on the brink of a modern enforcement of the [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918"]Sedition Act of 1918[/URL]?