Israeli government to pay African refugees $3,500 to leave
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[QUOTE]Israel is offering illegal immigrants $3,500 and a one-way ticket home as it begins to crack down on refugees, who face prison if they don’t take up the deal. Rights groups are appalled at the move, saying Israel should be doing more to protect them.
Israel says the tough move is necessary to send a message to migrants that making the journey is not worthwhile in the first place. As deterrents it has built a steel fence along the border with Egypt, houses migrants in a detention camp in the middle of a desert, and has stopped issuing work permits to deter would-be migrants[/QUOTE]
[url]http://rt.com/news/258893-israel-refugees-home-jail/[/url]
Oh Israel how low will you go.
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[QUOTE=MR-X;47732869]Oh Israel how low will you go.[/QUOTE]
Offering [b]illegal[/b] immigrants $3,500 and safe passage back to their home countries sounds pretty fair to me.
Sorry I forgot, I'm on Facepunch where everyone blindly shits on Israel no matter what they do.
[QUOTE=MR-X;47732869]Oh Israel how low will you go.[/QUOTE]
did you read the article? they're providing illegal immigrants money and a way back home to their home countries. $3K of their money, to be exact. if they wanted to "go low", they could've either just detained them for being illegal immigrants or just shipped them back with no money whatsoever. they're actually being fair and trying to help them.
The title needs to be changed to include the word 'Illegal' in it.
[QUOTE=Reshy;47732969]The title needs to be changed to include the word 'Illegal' in it.[/QUOTE]
RT has a tendency to have clickbaity titles.
I'll bet jail is better than where some of them are from.
Every country needs to do this.
See israel, this is how Palestine feels
this is a pretty good thing for israel to do. 3,500$ [I]and[/I] a free plane ride home? time to illegally go to israel and get some free money and a ride home. :v:
[QUOTE=Quark:;47733827]this is a pretty good thing for israel to do. 3,500$ [I]and[/I] a free plane ride home? time to illegally go to israel and get some free money and a ride home. :v:[/QUOTE]
I wonder what Israel's plan is to deal with repeat offenders.
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;47733864]I wonder what Israel's plan is to deal with repeat offenders.[/QUOTE]
Pay them a bigger sum every time until they're carrying so much money they can't move.
[QUOTE=Quark:;47733827]this is a pretty good thing for israel to do. 3,500$ [I]and[/I] a free plane ride home? time to illegally go to israel and get some free money and a ride home. :v:[/QUOTE]
it's not so simple
[url]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-paid-my-eritrean-friend-3500-get-out-isis-beheaded-him-libyan-beach-being-christian-1497999[/url]
Does these african immigrants include the Jewish Africans?
Cool, meanwhile America still foots the bill. Good deal!
Take the plan ride to Mexico and hop the border with the cash
[QUOTE=tempunary;47733145]Every country needs to do this.[/QUOTE]
You gonna pay for it? Maybe when we actually finish taking care of our own citizens who are broke and homeless.
[QUOTE=Carlton Dance;47734334]Does these african immigrants include the Jewish Africans?[/QUOTE]
I'm pretty sure any Jew is welcome to become a citizen?
[QUOTE=Explosions;47733902]Pay them a bigger sum every time until they're carrying so much money they can't move.[/QUOTE]
With the amount of shekels we throw at Israel, shouldn't be a problem.
[QUOTE=Mudbone;47734643]You gonna pay for it? Maybe when we actually finish taking care of our own citizens who are broke and homeless.
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The alternative here is adding [I]more[/I] people who are broke and homeless to the situation.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;47734185][url]http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/israel-paid-my-eritrean-friend-3500-get-out-isis-beheaded-him-libyan-beach-being-christian-1497999[/url][/QUOTE]
"There will be more deaths. I think that of these hundreds drowning in the Mediterranean, many will have come from Israel," he said.
wat
[QUOTE=Quark:;47733827]this is a pretty good thing for israel to do. 3,500$ [I]and[/I] a free plane ride home? time to illegally go to israel and get some free money and a ride home. :v:[/QUOTE]
What if 'home' for a lot of them is a horrible shit stain of a country? Not exactly a good thing if you're sending them back, even if they get $3,500.
Yeah, I'm really doubting how much of a solution this is for some. Some of the comments here praise Israel for this, and as nice a thing it is to do compared to just slamming them in the shutter and calling it 'dealt with', there's been several cases of people outright being killed the moment they come back to their home country because they were hunted for whatever reason. I remember reading something like that, it happened as early as late 2010 or so.
It's difficult dealing with illegal immigrants because you don't know their backstory, and getting to know it takes a hell of a lot more time and money than some are willing to invest to ensure that the situation is getting properly dealt with.
[QUOTE=Recurracy;47734929]Yeah, I'm really doubting how much of a solution this is for some. Some of the comments here praise Israel for this, and as nice a thing it is to do compared to just slamming them in the shutter and calling it 'dealt with', there's been several cases of people outright being killed the moment they come back to their home country because they were hunted for whatever reason. I remember reading something like that, it happened as early as late 2010 or so.[/QUOTE]
It's voluntary. They're being offer to take the money and a flight back home, or an indefinite stay in detention until such a time as they're allowed in (which may be never).
But I would think it's a wrong comparison to make to suggest they're just slamming the door closed and saying deal with it. They've been given an option. Unfortunately for some that have taken the option given to them by Israel, it has only justified their reasons for seeking asylum.
Why is Europe not doing this... then we have bunch of people who don't want to integrate into society
[QUOTE=DogGunn;47735015]It's voluntary. They're being offer to take the money and a flight back home, or an indefinite stay in detention until such a time as they're allowed in (which may be never).
But I would think it's a wrong comparison to make to suggest they're just slamming the door closed and saying deal with it. They've been given an option. Unfortunately for some that have taken the option given to them by Israel, it has only justified their reasons for seeking asylum.[/QUOTE]
That comparison was more in a general sense, not really directed towards Israel
[QUOTE=Fourier;47735017]Why is Europe not doing this... then we have bunch of people who don't want to integrate into society[/QUOTE]
Some countries in Europe are already doing this to deal specifically with the Roma and it's considered a nonfunctional money vacuum, what makes you think anyone would have the money and the will to extend the measure to a larger amount of the population when it already doesn't work on a small portion of it.
Also, implying anyone illegally immigrates to Slovenia.
[QUOTE=Fourier;47735017]Why is Europe not doing this... then we have bunch of people who don't want to integrate into society[/QUOTE]
EU should first improve conditions of citizens already living here. Most people here don't see 3k a year for working a proper job.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;47732897]Offering [B]illegal[/B] immigrants $3,500 and safe passage back to their home countries sounds pretty fair to me.
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It's not convenient to be in a country without the proper paperwork, and many of the people who are in that position are refugees. Calling them illegal and telling them to go home is flat out dehumanizing.
[QUOTE=SnakeHead;47732897]
Sorry I forgot, I'm on Facepunch where everyone blindly shits on [B]immigrants[/B] no matter what they do.[/QUOTE]
Fixed.
[QUOTE=Melnek;47735454]We do not have the proper infrastructure to accommodate the political refugees and asylum seekers whomever they might be. We have so far offered them apartments at extremely lowered prices, discounted vehicles, an almost free tuition, as well as a wide range of other benefits from health care to credit loans to household bills.
We are not Sweden and we are not planning on becoming Sweden. We are a small country that barely manages to keep 20% of its population above the poverty line, we don't need more burdens on our economy.[/QUOTE]
I understand what you're getting at, but this is a bad solution to the problem. Surely there's a way which doesn't involve sending people back into misery, while not fucking the Israeli infrastructure?
[QUOTE=proch;47735446]Sorry Sweden, some countries like their own culture[/QUOTE]
Can't tell if you're joking or if you've actually turned jingoist.
[QUOTE=itisjuly;47735372]EU should first improve conditions of citizens already living here. Most people here don't see 3k a year for working a proper job.[/QUOTE]
That is true.
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Fixed.[/QUOTE]
Sorry Sweden, some countries like their own culture
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