Poland's education minister denies Jewish massacres in the 1940s - Polidicks

[URL]http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/polish-official-criticized-jewish-massacre-remarks-40573192[/URL] [QUOTE]The comments concerned the Jedwabne massacre of 1941, when Poles burned alive more than 300 Jews in a barn, and the Kielce massacre of 1946, in which 42 people died. Anniversaries of both pogroms were marked with observances last week, with Duda condemning anti-Semitism at the Kielce event. In an interview on the public broadcaster TVN, Zalewska appeared uncomfortable as journalist Monika Olejnik asked her whether the massacres should be taught in schools. "Jedwabne is a historical fact that has led to many misunderstandings and very biased opinions," Zalewska said. The journalist firmly countered: "Poles burned Jews in a barn." "That's your opinion repeated after Mr. Gross," Zalewska retorted. She added that the Gross book is "full of lies." On Kielce, she said the perpetrators were anti-Semites, "but not quite Polish." [/QUOTE]

Oh dear, is antisemitism on the rise or am I just noticing it more?

Guess it's time for a new education minister, then.

It's like the Trump quotes, he didn't deny the massacre but pointed out it's vastly historically inaccurate to simply sum it up as "Poles burned Jews in a barn" as it was under the direction of the Ordnungspolizei; The National Police Service of Nazi Germany at the orders of Reinhard Heydrich, Director of the Reich Main Security Office & head of the Waffen SS.

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;50709169]Oh dear, is antisemitism on the rise or am I just noticing it more?[/QUOTE] More like Poland's government going down the shitter in every way imaginable. It's getting even sadder than Hungary.

Isn't 6 millions jews that died in ww2 masacre/holocaust period fake number.. actual number is much lower?

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709289]Isn't 6 millions jews that died in masacre fake number.. actual number is much lower?[/QUOTE] I think you may be confusing this ordeal with the Holocaust -- this is more about a national instance, that was what you'd call this part of on the larger scale.

True, I have red an article again more slowly. Excuses.

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;50709169]Oh dear, is antisemitism on the rise or am I just noticing it more?[/QUOTE] I don't know about antisemitism specifically, but the west in general has experienced a shift towards more radical politics in the past decade.

Someone annex us pls

Can't you protest or something, it works for France :)

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709289]Isn't 6 millions jews that died in ww2 masacre/holocaust period fake number.. actual number is much lower?[/QUOTE] *facepalm* No, of fucking course not. Through primary sources, we have at least 3 million documented, and since of how poor documentation of the holocaust was, there's estimations of another 2.5-3.5 being killed bringing the total to about 6 million, which has been confirmed by SS members during their testimonies.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50710019]*facepalm* No, of fucking course not. Through primary sources, we have at least 3 million documented, and through estimation of the number of undocumented, the number is brought up be a little less than 6 million, which is accurate considering we have testimonies from SS figures listing the number to be 6 million.[/QUOTE] Did your great aunt get gassed or something? Calm down buddy, the guy was asking an honest question.

[QUOTE=WJS;50710099]Did your great aunt get gassed or something? Calm down buddy, the guy was asking an honest question.[/QUOTE] Because I'm sick and tired of this idiotic bullshit being spread. Why the fuck would someone create a fake number for such a significant event as 11 million people being murdered?

[QUOTE=Lollipoopdeck;50709169]Oh dear, is antisemitism on the rise or am I just noticing it more?[/QUOTE] I feel like this particular instance is less to deal with antisemitism, and more to do with whitewashing the darker sides of their own history.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50710135]Because I'm sick and tired of this idiotic bullshit being spread. Why the fuck would someone create a fake number for such a significant event as 11 million people being murdered?[/QUOTE] RIP Tornado's relative getting angry about it on a forum won't make people more aware of the real statistics [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Why reply?" - Bradyns))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=WJS;50710158]RIP Tornado's relative getting angry about it on a forum won't make people more aware of the real statistics[/QUOTE] But he said the real statistics?

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;50710149]I feel like this particular instance is less to deal with antisemitism, and more to do with whitewashing the darker sides of their own history.[/QUOTE] Though it doesn't help that the country is ruled by antisemites at large.

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50710135]Because I'm sick and tired of this idiotic bullshit being spread. Why the fuck would someone create a fake number for such a significant event as 11 million people being murdered?[/QUOTE] Fourier was asking a question, not stating a fact.

[QUOTE=kariko;50710217]But he said the real statistics?[/QUOTE] You're right, he did. But there's better ways of informing people who might not know otherwise besides being aggressive and toxic

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50710135]Because I'm sick and tired of this idiotic bullshit being spread. Why the fuck would someone create a fake number for such a significant event as 11 million people being murdered?[/QUOTE] There was news on FP that Polish government admitted that Jews death rate was too high. Btw, you are American, your schools are known to be the idiotic, your government is known to spread bullshit and propaganda, why should I even listen to you? [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Big Dumb American))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=WJS;50710158]RIP Tornado's relative getting angry about it on a forum won't make people more aware of the real statistics[/QUOTE] "informing people about the correct statistics won't make them more aware of the correct statistics" [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] One thing that really annoys me when people talk about the holocaust is that they tend to completely forget about the gypsies, poles, homosexuals, et cetera that the nazi's also sent to the camps

[QUOTE=Fourier;50710673]There was news on FP that Polish government admitted that Jews death rate was too high. Btw, you are American, your schools are known to be the idiotic, your government is known to spread bullshit and propaganda, why should I even listen to you?[/QUOTE] You shouldn't, of course. You should only trust reliable sources like [URL="https://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1525518&p=50651732#post50651732"]the Daily Stormer[/URL], right?

[QUOTE=Fourier;50709289]Isn't 6 millions jews that died in ww2 masacre/holocaust period fake number.. actual number is much lower?[/QUOTE] Counting non-Jews (Gypsies, homosexuals, political dissidents, and non-Jewish slavs) the number is actually closer to 11-12 million.

[QUOTE=Mining Bill;50710759] One thing that really annoys me when people talk about the holocaust is that they tend to completely forget about the gypsies, poles, homosexuals, et cetera that the nazi's also sent to the camps[/QUOTE] deliberate ploy by the 6 million jews that didn't die during the fake holocaust [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Trolling" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=momoiro;50710926]deliberate ploy by the 6 million jews that didn't die during the fake holocaust[/QUOTE] What?

[QUOTE=momoiro;50710926]deliberate ploy by the 6 million jews that didn't die during the fake holocaust[/QUOTE] please explain your well developed and intelligently constructed argument for why you think that's the case [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] :vs:

[QUOTE=TornadoAP;50710135]Because I'm sick and tired of this idiotic bullshit being spread. Why the fuck would someone create a fake number for such a significant event as 11 million people being murdered?[/QUOTE] It's not the numbers game with these horrifying war crimes I think Stalin killed 20 million, but hey nobody talks about that. I understand that the holocaust was a direct targeting of Jews and undesirables but you can't just stick with numbers to Olay the game of which massacre was worst [editline]15th July 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mining Bill;50711545]please explain your well developed and intelligently constructed argument for why you think that's the case [editline]14th July 2016[/editline] :vs:[/QUOTE] Sarcasm, I think

[QUOTE=niiiiiiiiok;50711750]Sarcasm, I think[/QUOTE] one hopes, but the way some people in SH seem to be getting, I wouldn't be surprised

[QUOTE=Fourier;50710673]There was news on FP that Polish government admitted that Jews death rate was too high. Btw, you are American, your schools are known to be the idiotic, your government is known to spread bullshit and propaganda, why should I even listen to you?[/QUOTE] Maybe you should fucking fact check him rather than attack his intelligence based on where he lives.