German aid to migrants creating 'pull effect': minister - Polidicks

[QUOTE]German Interior Minister Thomas de Maiziere warned Saturday that Berlin's generous offer of benefits for asylum seekers was a siren call for migrants. "The benefits for refugees in Germany are quite high compared to other EU countries. This is part of the pull effect towards Germany," de Maiziere, a close ally of Chancellor Angela Merkel, said in an interview with the Rheinische Post regional daily. Under Merkel's impetus, Germany welcomed more than a million asylum seekers in 2015 and 2016, all of them ushered in by Maiziere's interior ministry. His comments on Saturday, two weeks ahead of legislative elections, were roundly criticised by the far-left Die Linke party and the German Greens. The European Union needs "a truly homogenous asylum system," he said. An asylum seeker arriving in Germany has the right to housing and up to €390 euros per month to cover food, clothing and other expenses.[/QUOTE] Source: [url]https://www.thelocal.de/20170910/german-aid-to-migrants-creating-pull-effect-minister[/url]

I thought this was common knowledge.

[quote] Aid for refugees "cannot be reduced below the subsistence minimum," argued Katrin Goering-Eckardt, head of the Greens parliamentary group. Merkel's Christian Democrats "are ready to do anything" for votes, she added. Die Linke deputy Jan Korte said that Maiziere was seeking to "disfigure the right to asylum".[/quote] Once again, everything would be better if this policy were implemented anywhere in the EU and the east countries helped the rest by allocating refugees. But you know, is easier strip down rights because we can. P.D: 390€ per month isn't much here ( with luck maybe an small apartment, but most of the times it will force you into a shared flat ), but considering how easy is to get a job ( either a minijob or a reduced time job at least ), I guess it is deemed enough.

[QUOTE=Maestro Fenix;52670794][...] ( either a minijob or a reduced time job at least ), [...][/QUOTE] This is partially unrelated, but it should be noted that these jobs also lead to reduced benefits later on (due to often counting much less towards old-age pensions for example). I don't think it's really fair to call those jobs employment due to that.

[QUOTE=Maestro Fenix;52670794]Once again, everything would be better if this policy were implemented anywhere in the EU and the east countries helped the rest by allocating refugees. But you know, is easier strip down rights because we can. P.D: 390€ per month isn't much here ( with luck maybe an small apartment, but most of the times it will force you into a shared flat ), but considering how easy is to get a job ( either a minijob or a reduced time job at least ), I guess it is deemed enough.[/QUOTE] 390 for apartment? What the fuck... In Ireland - I recently found a room to rent for 650 and I am quite lucky, usually rooms go for 750-950. Apartment (small sized) will run into at least 1200-1300.

[QUOTE=Maestro Fenix;52670794] P.D: 390€ per month isn't much here ( with luck maybe an small apartment, but most of the times it will force you into a shared flat ), but considering how easy is to get a job ( either a minijob or a reduced time job at least ), I guess it is deemed enough.[/QUOTE] Get the out of town, no kidding? 416€ a month is the lowest you can get in my town unless you want to live in an extremely dangerous part of the city, which even then is about 385€. A one bedroom, one bath apartment with heating/ac in a good part of Rockford is about 715-1000€ a month (Adjusting for USD-Euro)

[QUOTE=Tamschi;52677121]This is partially unrelated, but it should be noted that these jobs also lead to reduced benefits later on (due to often counting much less towards old-age pensions for example). I don't think it's really fair to call those jobs employment due to that.[/QUOTE] Indeed, they are most suitable as temporal/short time jobs. I was counting on them as a way to sustain oneself while learns the language and/or validate their education titles/learn new skills. ( the work conditions in some hotels are terrible as minijob however, they basically exploit you ). [quote]*comments about how cheap is a rent*[/quote] Well, I don't live exactly at the city center, but it is at 10 minutes on foot ( or in 3 with the tram ). My apartment is not big ( 25m2 ) but for a single person is ok. Then again, I had "bad luck" since there were flats with even three rooms and both electricity, heating and water bills included for 400€ but there's a fierce competition, as every time a flat is available, there's minimum 4 to 12 persons visiting it at once. I heard also that since some years the prices are skyrocketing everywhere due speculation so this situation may change in the future. I live in Nuremberg which I heard is one of the most cheapest places on Germany to live, maybe that's why.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52677661]Get the out of town, no kidding? 416€ a month is the lowest you can get in my town unless you want to live in an extremely dangerous part of the city, which even then is about 385€. A one bedroom, one bath apartment with heating/ac in a good part of Rockford is about 715-1000€ a month (Adjusting for USD-Euro)[/QUOTE] and that is nothing compared to what I paid for a 2br in my city (seattle), which was ~1350€. 1br is about ~1100€ which gets you [I]maybe[/I] 500sqft (47 square meters, if anyone uses that?). Smaller microstudios with no kitchen and no separate rooms (and a tiny bathroom) are ~700€ for 30sq meters On the topic of the OP though, the reaction to this still seems so muted compared to what it would be in the US. I know that accepting a large quantity of refugees isn't always ideal for a country, but jesus where else can they go? Sure, not all of them can come in, but that's just part of the awful tragedy surrounding all this bullshit

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;52677661]Get the out of town, no kidding? 416€ a month is the lowest you can get in my town unless you want to live in an extremely dangerous part of the city, which even then is about 385€. A one bedroom, one bath apartment with heating/ac in a good part of Rockford is about 715-1000€ a month (Adjusting for USD-Euro)[/QUOTE] I remember arguing with someone here about the ROI of coming to live and study in Buenos Aires And some guy said it was worse coming here than facing all the student loan debts and high rent prices back in the US [URL="http://www.argenprop.com/Departamentos-Alquiler-Belgrano-Capital-Federal/mQ2KrbQ1KpQ1KprQ2KpaQ135Kaf_800Kaf_817Kaf_100000001Kaf_800000005Kaf_500000001Kl_2102Kb_5KvnQVistaResultadosKvncQVistaGrillaKsbyQMontoNormalizadoKsdQDescKpiQ0KpsQ1000"]ayyy lmao [/URL]