of course it is it would be impractical as fuck to keep up with both it and IT
so out of date you wouldn't believe
I'm in a tech college studying Interactive Media and I definitely have to agree with things being behind. The web dev class is horrible and teaches methods to you that would have employers tell you to fuck off if you ever wanted a job in that area.
I think the problem here is that a lot of the curriculum in this area is left to older people who are used to what they grew up with and don't have a strong grasp of what's changing. I don't like to sound rude towards the older generation, but it's just how they are and there's only a handful of them who actually understand technology like the younger generations of today.
D&T curriculum shouldn't be a standardised thing that remains the same for decades at a time (not saying it shouldn't be standardised across the country), it should change each year to keep up with technology which advances at a ridiculous rate compared to other areas.
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In fact, back in year 10 computing (4 years ago now) we were learning things like pascal. Sure, it gives you an idea of how some programming is structured, but it's so outdated that it basically means nothing compared to my first week of a java unit at uni.
Well you'll find now throughout pretty much all high schools in the UK, subjects like ICT and Computing are being taught out of a text book by teachers who dont really know anything about technology/computers. I was in year 10 ICT 5 years ago and our teacher knew pretty much nothing about computers.
Also subjects like D&T have been woodwork throughout my entire school life, I dont think I have done anything in a D&T class in the past 9 years which hasnt involved making some stupid thing out of wood like a pencil holder.
That's why you need to reduce studying fees, increase teacher salary and hire new people, not old farts.
same thing at my university. my current course; organizational change hasn't been updated for 20 years. the teacher is to blame tho
thats funny
Same in Australia, our IPT teacher even admitted some of the stuff we learn isn't relevant anymore and hasn't been for years.
The Software Design & Development syllabus which I'm being subjected to at the moment still recommends Pascal for all of your programming, despite there being far more useful languages to start learning with nowadays. My "teacher" doesn't even teach us, he sits on his computer wasting time and we're expected to memorise a textbook about two decades old.
Even my friends at other schools are required to do programming projects, so they can actually see how software is made - but no, not here. Waste of my fucking time.
[QUOTE=mechanarchy;28796892]The Software Design & Development syllabus which I'm being subjected to at the moment still recommends Pascal for all of your programming, despite there being far more useful languages to start learning with nowadays. My "teacher" doesn't even teach us, he sits on his computer wasting time and we're expected to memorise a textbook about two decades old.
Even my friends at other schools are required to do programming projects, so they can actually see how software is made - but no, not here. Waste of my fucking time.[/QUOTE]
I didn't learn any programming language throughout GCSE or AS because 'they are too difficult to understand'
I take 2 ICT courses in AS :|
Out of date? Preposterous. AOL is a far superior browser to everything else. Also, HTML3 is the future.
I did ICT and Computing at AS...Computing was making very basic stuff in VB.net and the exam was basically where you were given a skeleton console program (Hangman) with a few different features missing/broken, and it asked you to add/repair them.
ICT was a complete joke of a course.
[QUOTE=PieClock;28794954]I'm in a tech college studying Interactive Media and I definitely have to agree with things being behind. The web dev class is horrible and teaches methods to you that would have employers tell you to fuck off if you ever wanted a job in that area.[/QUOTE]
What kind of methods if you don't mind me asking.
For my A/S ICT it was so pointless it was all databases and shit rather than something interesting, amusingly it was the same as GCSE level ICT and I got the same grade for both because I just couldn't be bothered.
Back in my day we had cutting edge technology and an immensely varied IT curriculum
this is what i did in highschool IT
year 7 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
year 8 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
9 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
10 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
11 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
GCSE coursework - spreadsheets and mail merge
i got an F
[QUOTE=gazzy_GUI;28797810]What kind of methods if you don't mind me asking.[/QUOTE]
Table layouts, use of depreciated HTML tags, dreamweaver design view, and at one point my teacher said CSS isn't necessary unless you're making a huge website. Some of it isn't even outdated, but just plain stupid. I've learnt more myself from reading articles and tutorials on the web.
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;28798602]Back in my day we had cutting edge technology and an immensely varied IT curriculum
this is what i did in highschool IT
year 7 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
year 8 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
9 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
10 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
11 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
GCSE coursework - spreadsheets and mail merge
i got an F[/QUOTE]
In my IT class we learn about how to use word and excel. I'm in 5th Year, pretty ridiculous. And RM security stops us from using toolbars in both programs.
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[QUOTE=PieClock;28799211]Table layouts, use of depreciated HTML tags, dreamweaver design view, and at one point my teacher said CSS isn't necessary unless you're making a huge website. Some of it isn't even outdated, but just plain stupid. I've learnt more myself from reading articles and tutorials on the web.[/QUOTE]
Sounds exactly like my Web Dev course, then I questioned the course contents, and did the same as you, Read tutorials, articles etc to learn more.
I think the other day i was doing my assignment in code view because something was fucking up, lecturer walked up behind me without me knowing and said, and i quote "No one needs to use code view any more."
Every single piece of software we have at our school is outdated, and the vast majority of the computers are slow. Their network is also terribly managed and overly restricted.
Microsoft Frontpage 2003 or Dreamweaver MX. Make your choices wisely.
Also we're not allowed to run executable files. Also, we're not allowed to run task manager, so the only solution if a piece of software crashes and refuses to load is to log off and log back on, which could take around ten minutes, about 20% of lesson time, which you had probably already used logging on in the first place.
British IT is so out of date.
IT classes in the UK are terrible.
I have to teacher everyone how to use Photoshop CS5 and Microsoft Expression Web 3 as our teacher doesn't know how to use any of it.
Also, at least in my school, there's nothing beyond ActionScript and web code in the way of 'coding'. None of them are officially taught, and to use PowerPoint to develop 'point and click' style video games instead.
The entire curriculum is essentially based around use Microsoft Office products, and even though are only 2003 versions at current.
For our image editing needs, we still have Fireworks and Freehand MX. Even the versions of Flash Player are not up to date.
In my school, anyone who did IT or electronics retired from the district long ago.
[QUOTE=Leg of Doom;28798602]Back in my day we had cutting edge technology and an immensely varied IT curriculum
this is what i did in highschool IT
year 7 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
year 8 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
9 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2000
10 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
11 - excel spreadsheets microsoft office 2003
GCSE coursework - spreadsheets and mail merge
i got an F[/QUOTE]
THIS
all I learned in IT throughout 12 years of compulsory education was how to use ms office
The problem is with the exam boards - we weren't using new technologies because they weren't on the paper. What was on the paper was wood finishes, metal processing, hand crafting products and stuff like that.
But I did enjoy the lessons, my teacher was pretty cool.
[QUOTE=Coffee;28800414]IT classes in the UK are terrible.
I have to teacher everyone how to use Photoshop CS5 and Microsoft Expression Web 3 as our teacher doesn't know how to use any of it.[/QUOTE]
I'm still on serif products and frontpage at my school!
Here in Holland they use Unity with C# to make games at the University of Utrecht :buddy:
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Too bad the school I'm currently on still uses Office 2003 with XP...
[QUOTE=Coffee;28800414]IT classes in the UK are terrible.
I have to teacher everyone how to use Photoshop CS5 and Microsoft Expression Web 3 as our teacher doesn't know how to use any of it.[/QUOTE]
This has happened to me. I should be getting paid to teach IT sometimes.
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