Child neglect quadruples during military deployments, study shows
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Child abuse in active-duty Army families spiked 40 percent from 2009 to 2012 as soldiers returned from the war zones in big numbers. But even when soldiers were heavily deployed, many of their children still suffered — at the hands of stressed-out spouses.Dr. Rene Robichaux, the social work programs manager at Army Medical Command, points to a study on maltreatment of children that compared combat deployment periods to nondeployment periods. Among female civilian spouses, the study showed, the rate of child neglect during deployments nearly quadrupled and physical abuse nearly tripled.
“You have moms who aren’t sleeping, and the children aren’t sleeping,” Robichaux said. “It’s a lethal combination.”
Robichaux is cited in the study, published Aug. 1, 2007, in the Journal of the American Medical Association. The study covered the period from Sept. 1, 2001, through Dec. 31, 2004, and included 1,858 parents in 1,771 Army families that had at least one substantiated incident of maltreatment.
The 2004 study has not been repeated, Robichaux said, but he’s confident that not much has changed.
The study included only families of enlisted soldiers, E-4 through E-9, as researchers determined the 49 families with an officer parent and a reported incident of maltreatment was too small a sample size to be statistically reliable.[/quote]
[URL]http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130729/NEWS06/307290022/Child-neglect-quadruples-during-deployments-study-shows[/URL]
why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41641705]why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea[/QUOTE]
what about people getting drafted
-Snip, I guess you still have the draft??-
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41641705]why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea[/QUOTE]
most likely to pay for college, no skills for any particular job and they don't want to be stuck working a minimum wage job at a supermarket.
[QUOTE=pvt.jenkins;41642025]America doesn't have the draft anymore, most developed countries don't either.[/QUOTE]
yes we do actually
all men when they turn 18 have to sign up for the draft
[QUOTE=DeEz;41641983]what about people getting drafted[/QUOTE]
then it's not "a fucking terrible idea" because it's not your idea and you don't have a choice
that's not to say that drafts aren't inherently immoral
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;41642126]most likely to pay for college, no skills for any particular job and they don't want to be stuck working a minimum wage job at a supermarket.
yes we do actually
all men when they turn 18 have to sign up for the draft[/QUOTE]
I'm 23 and haven't. I didn't even know. I feel like I'm in trouble.
Is drafting the thing where you have to attend a form of military camp for a few months to get what is essentially "basic soldier training"? Because we had that in Sweden and it's been gone for years now.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41641705]why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea[/QUOTE]
The Army life is hard, yes. However, the Army has amazing support for families. All kinds of services, support groups, facilities and whatnot. BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing pay) is an entitlement pay if you have a family, and it really helps with providing for them. I know very many Soldiers that have wonderful families. Death can happen, but it is something that we all accepted when we raised our right hand. Also, the chance of you dying overseas is not very much, you are under much greater risk of getting in a car accident in the states than you are of getting shot overseas. Not everyone is Infantry, most jobs are support. Also, deployments have been reduced in time from 12 months to 9 months, and deployments have slowed quite a bit due to the withdrawal, many of them being cancelled. Basically, it isn't as bad as you may think to have a family and in the military at the same time.
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[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;41642811]Is drafting the thing where you have to attend a form of military camp for a few months to get what is essentially "basic soldier training"? Because we had that in Sweden and it's been gone for years now.[/QUOTE]
The draft in the United States is compulsory military service in times of great need. It is not just basic training, it is active duty service where you deploy and fight in combat. Now, the last draft was in Vietnam, and there are no shortage of volunteers nowadays, so the draft is not needed. Still, when a male turns 18, they must register for the selective service in case they need to be called on in a conflict.
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;41642811]Is drafting the thing where you have to attend a form of military camp for a few months to get what is essentially "basic soldier training"? Because we had that in Sweden and it's been gone for years now.[/QUOTE]
Drafting is more like a mandatory lottery, where those whose numbers are chosen get sent in for military service, typically during times of war, so it's somewhat like what you're describing, except those who get selected are sent to combat. It's really shitty, lots of guys died during the war in Vietnam over nothing, and lots of them didn't even want to join.
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[QUOTE=SKEEA;41642893]The Army life is hard, yes. However, the Army has amazing support for families. All kinds of services, support groups, facilities and whatnot. BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing pay) is an entitlement pay if you have a family, and it really helps with providing for them. I know very many Soldiers that have wonderful families. Death can happen, but it is something that we all accepted when we raised our right hand. Also, the chance of you dying overseas is not very much, you are under much greater risk of getting in a car accident in the states than you are of getting shot overseas. Not everyone is Infantry, most jobs are support. Also, deployments have been reduced in time from 12 months to 9 months, and deployments have slowed quite a bit due to the withdrawal, many of them being cancelled. Basically, it isn't as bad as you may think to have a family and in the military at the same time.
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The draft in the United States is compulsory military service in times of great need. It is not just basic training, it is active duty service where you deploy and fight in combat. Now, the last draft was in Vietnam, and there are no shortage of volunteers nowadays, so the draft is not needed. Still, when a male turns 18, they must register for the selective service in case they need to be called on in a conflict.[/QUOTE]
I hate you.
[QUOTE=SKEEA;41642893] The draft in the United States is compulsory military service in times of great need. It is not just basic training, it is active duty service where you deploy and fight in combat. Now, the last draft was in Vietnam, and there are no shortage of volunteers nowadays, so the draft is not needed. Still, when a male turns 18, they must register for the selective service in case they need to be called on in a conflict.[/QUOTE]
Ohhh Selective Service, yea I think when I renewed my license it forced me to sign up for that.
[QUOTE=Brt5470;41642719]I'm 23 and haven't. I didn't even know. I feel like I'm in trouble.[/QUOTE]
It's a felony if you don't by the time you're 25.
[url]http://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm[/url]
Actually my family gets taken care of 100% for free through the military. Best decision I've made. Y'all just don't know. Also selective service isn't the draft. Half the people who sign up won't be eligible for military service anyways(physical limitations, legal history, medical history, weight, etc.) Never fear overweight neck beards, if a draft is created than you won't be going to war.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;41643102]Never fear overweight neck beards, if a draft is created than you won't be going to war.[/QUOTE]
idk man if we pull out the draft we're in a real shitpile
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;41643102]Actually my family gets taken care of 100% for free through the military. Best decision I've made. Y'all just don't know. Also selective service isn't the draft. Half the people who sign up won't be eligible for military service anyways(physical limitations, legal history, medical history, weight, etc.) Never fear overweight neck beards, if a draft is created than you won't be going to war.[/QUOTE]
Thats great and all but that doesnt make any of this untrue
[QUOTE=Derp Y. Mail;41642811]Is drafting the thing where you have to attend a form of military camp for a few months to get what is essentially "basic soldier training"? Because we had that in Sweden and it's been gone for years now.[/QUOTE]
No that's conscription
In the US you have to register for military service but they need a damn good reason to actually call people in and doing so would basically be political suicide
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41641705]why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea[/QUOTE]
A good reason why my bro (and many of his friends) specifically said that he won't have kids/settle down until after his service is over. Of course it's different if you decide you want to do it for the rest of your life.
[QUOTE=BrainDeath;41641705]why join the army when you have children to look after - who will be greatly hurt if you die
what a fucking terrible idea[/QUOTE]
Don't forget that the soldiers are tied to a contract for x amount of years depending on their job role so they can't just drop out and leave to look after their family. Plus they are more likely to have children while already in the military, not before hand.
Luckily my mother didn't neglect nor abuse me when my dad was out at sea but deployments suck ass as a child.
It sucks having only one paren,t especially in the Navy. My dad was usually out at sea for 3-6 months every one to two years.
[QUOTE=InvaderNouga;41643102]Actually my family gets taken care of 100% for free through the military. Best decision I've made. Y'all just don't know. Also selective service isn't the draft. Half the people who sign up won't be eligible for military service anyways(physical limitations, legal history, medical history, weight, etc.) Never fear overweight neck beards, if a draft is created than you won't be going to war.[/QUOTE]
1/2? I thought it was 3/4th were not eligible the last i heard.
More than 50% of our population is sick,in binds with the law, over-weight,or have drug-issues.
Which is really fucked up and sad when you think about it.
[QUOTE=ScoutKing;41645185]1/2? I thought it was 3/4th were not eligible the last i heard.
More than 50% of our population is sick,in binds with the law, over-weight,or have drug-issues.
Which is really fucked up and sad when you think about it.[/QUOTE]
or female
[QUOTE=SKEEA;41642893]The Army life is hard, yes. However, the Army has amazing support for families. All kinds of services, support groups, facilities and whatnot. BAH (Basic Allowance for Housing pay) is an entitlement pay if you have a family, and it really helps with providing for them. I know very many Soldiers that have wonderful families. Death can happen, but it is something that we all accepted when we raised our right hand. Also, the chance of you dying overseas is not very much, you are under much greater risk of getting in a car accident in the states than you are of getting shot overseas. Not everyone is Infantry, most jobs are support. Also, deployments have been reduced in time from 12 months to 9 months, and deployments have slowed quite a bit due to the withdrawal, many of them being cancelled. Basically, it isn't as bad as you may think to have a family and in the military at the same time.
[editline]29th July 2013[/editline]
The draft in the United States is compulsory military service in times of great need. It is not just basic training, it is active duty service where you deploy and fight in combat. Now, the last draft was in Vietnam, and there are no shortage of volunteers nowadays, so the draft is not needed. Still, when a male turns 18, they must register for the selective service in case they need to be called on in a conflict.[/QUOTE]
Someone please explain to me what the fuck is dumb about this post, because I am not seeing it.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;41647301]Someone please explain to me what the fuck is dumb about this post, because I am not seeing it.[/QUOTE]
Because whenever SKEEA posts about the military he is automatically considered to be putting on a "Holier Than Thou" attitude, even though he isn't 99% of the time.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;41647301]Someone please explain to me what the fuck is dumb about this post, because I am not seeing it.[/QUOTE]
People dont like it when you interrupt their circlejerk session
[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;41642975]It's a felony if you don't by the time you're 25.
[url]http://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
I'm gonna be committing a felony in two years. I might as well steal a good car and go on the run now. Bye guys I loved you.
[QUOTE=Dr.Critic;41647301]Someone please explain to me what the fuck is dumb about this post, because I am not seeing it.[/QUOTE]
Probably because his posts always have cringe-worthy lines like
[QUOTE=SKEEA;41642893]Death can happen, but it is something that we all accepted when we raised our right hand.[/QUOTE]
that identify him as an incredibly awkward military robot
[QUOTE=LtKyle2;41642126]all men when they turn 18 have to sign up for the draft[/QUOTE]
Yeah but we haven't used it since Vietnam.
[QUOTE=Steve Harvey;41642975]It's a felony if you don't by the time you're 25.
[url]http://www.sss.gov/fswho.htm[/url][/QUOTE]
Chance you will get charged: 0%.
The last convictions were in the 80s, and only after the individuals self-publicized it in national newspapers.
[QUOTE=James*;41647674]Probably because his posts always have cringe-worthy lines like
[QUOTE]Death can happen, but it is something that we all accepted when we raised our right hand.[/QUOTE]
that identify him as an incredibly awkward military robot[/QUOTE]
It's true though. Military personnel accept that risk when you sign up and get sent out. It isn't that we want to die, or are robots, it is just that in order to be in the service you need to make peace with the possibility of death. That is why when we deploy, we make wills, update our SGLI (Servicemember's Group Life Insurance, military life insurance policy basically), and set our next of kin. It is kind of a big reality check, and rather morbid, but that is just how it is. Death happens, and it might be you. We accept that, and just drive on and do our duty.
[QUOTE=Starpluck;41648039]Chance you will get charged: 0%.
The last convictions were in the 80s, and only after the individuals self-publicized it in national newspapers.[/QUOTE]
You won't get charged but you'll forfeit many government benefits.
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