• Melbourne Imam Ibrahim Omerdic charged over forced marriage of child
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[url=http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-13/melbourne-imam-charged-over-forced-marriage-of-child/8180756]source[/url] [quote]A Melbourne Muslim cleric has been charged over the forced marriage of a child. Imam Ibrahim Omerdic, 61, appeared in the Melbourne Magistrates Court today charged with conduct that caused a minor to enter into a forced marriage at Noble Park on September 29. Another man, who cannot be identified, was charged with sexual penetration of a child under the age of 16 and being a party to a forced marriage.[/quote] Somewhere, someone thinks this was okay because of cultural relativism.
Who are we to judge Islamic culture? Australia should allow the marriage.
[QUOTE=Captain James;51664431][ Somewhere, someone thinks this was okay because of cultural relativism.[/QUOTE] Unfortunately far too common.
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51664442]Who are we to judge Islamic culture? Australia should allow the marriage.[/QUOTE] in before don't stop dolphin fishing because who are we to judge japanese culture [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Memeshit" - Sgt Doom))[/highlight]
Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?
[QUOTE=1239the;51664451]Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?[/QUOTE] "I had trouble adjusting to this strange land so I fucked a child." No.
[QUOTE=download;51664456]"I had trouble adjusting to this strange land so I fucked a child." No.[/QUOTE] Thanks for interpreting my post in the worst possible way, buddy. How bulletproof do you want it to be? How about "fucking children is wrong and there's no excuse for child molestation but I've been to places with really fucking weird cultural norms that are just accepted as standard so I can perhaps see the reasons behind this happening and we'll have to accept that it will probably happen again in the future until they get past the first generational migrant cultural integration issues".
[QUOTE=1239the;51664481]Thanks for interpreting my post in the worst possible way, buddy. How bulletproof do you want it to be? How about "fucking children is wrong and there's no excuse for child molestation but I've been to places with really fucking weird cultural norms that are just accepted as standard so I can perhaps see the reasons behind this happening and we'll have to accept that it will probably happen again in the future until they get past the first generational migrant cultural integration issues".[/QUOTE] You chose to excuse what this guy did. I'm not certain how else I was supposed to interpret that.
[QUOTE=1239the;51664451]Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?[/QUOTE] No. Stop excusing what is a stupid and disgusting practice. They shouldn't do it in their own culture because it completely disrespects the rights of children.
When you move to live in a different country you have to live by that countries laws and can't just say oh its normal in the country i come from, or you'd have more christians complaining when going to islamic countries and it normal where i'm from to get drunk on lager and the women not to cover their heads but you don't
[QUOTE=Pantz Master;51664442]Who are we to judge Islamic culture? Australia should allow the marriage.[/QUOTE] You exist purely to soil threads with contrarianism and bait, don't you?
[QUOTE=taz0;51664506]When you move to live in a different country you have to live by that countries laws and can't just say oh its normal in the country i come from[/QUOTE] They're probably Australian anyway. There has been a resurgence (well maybe not resurgence) of ultra-Islamic views in Melbourne's South East where this happened.
[QUOTE=1239the;51664481]Thanks for interpreting my post in the worst possible way, buddy. How bulletproof do you want it to be? How about "fucking children is wrong and there's no excuse for child molestation but I've been to places with really fucking weird cultural norms that are just accepted as standard so I can perhaps see the reasons behind this happening and we'll have to accept that it will probably happen again in the future until they get past the first generational migrant cultural integration issues".[/QUOTE] This is the case and it does need to be acknowledged, but it's still something that people will need to come down on hard until they learn it's not acceptable.
i under stand what your saying but its still unacceptable by Austrialian law and if its allowed whats to stop some smart ass purvert from thinking, Hmm i got a get out of jail free card here, i'll become islamic
[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51664509]You exist purely to soil threads with contrarianism and bait, don't you?[/QUOTE] Not encouraging pedophilia is contrarian to you?
[QUOTE=Komodoh;51664555]Not encouraging pedophilia is contrarian to you?[/QUOTE] But he does?
[QUOTE=1239the;51664451]Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?[/QUOTE] Look at it from this perspective, You are a young 10 year old Muslim girl and the thing that facinates you is reading and drawing in books. then your grandfather forces you to be married and you get fucked/ass raped also by a man that is probably 28+. [B][I]Children need to be protected by the law[/I][/B], Vaginal/Ass fucking children is never OKAY.
Anyone remotely defending legalising or normalising paedophilia needs to be slapped with a sexual predator charge asap. That shit is totally unacceptable and disgusting
[QUOTE=Komodoh;51664555]Not encouraging pedophilia is contrarian to you?[/QUOTE] I'm referring to his other posts, where he deliberately goes against the tide and all rational human logic purely to start a fight.
Just because something is legal in another country, or by your religion doesn't excuse you from breaking the laws in the land you currently reside in. Pedophilia is against the countries law. Your religion does not give you safe harboring of your illegal activities. [QUOTE=fruxodaily;51664631]Anyone remotely defending legalising or normalising paedophilia needs to be slapped with a sexual predator charge asap. That shit is totally unacceptable and disgusting[/QUOTE] Thats a bit too far. They should be ostracized by their peers. Not jailed because they're apologizing and defending someone. They didn't have sex with a child, so why be charged as doing so? Using your flawed thought process, you should be jailed for thinking about throwing innocents into jail.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;51664757] Thats a bit too far. They should be ostracized by their peers. Not jailed because they're apologizing and defending someone. They didn't have sex with a child, so why be charged as doing so? Using your flawed thought process, you should be jailed for thinking about throwing innocents into jail.[/QUOTE] I didn't say jailed, i said hit with a sexual predator offence which literally means your on a register, you're advocating to have small kids who cant make up their minds fucked
I just knew it that when I saw thread title, there would be idiots defending forced marriage.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;51664874]I didn't say jailed, i said hit with a sexual predator offence which literally means your on a register, you're advocating to have small kids who cant make up their minds fucked[/QUOTE] Even worse than jailed. Nothing like being branded a sexual predator because they defended someones actions with words and poor thought. Even if it is gross and unintelligable as it is, you should not be slapping someone on a register such as that one.
[QUOTE=1239the;51664451]Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?[/QUOTE] They aren't idiots, they know what's acceptable and what isn't. They're breaking the law and should be punished for it.
Assimilation exists for a reason. If you move to a different country and plan to stay there for any extended period of time, you should adopt their social norms/standards and abide by their laws. It's that simple.
If you say forcing kids to marry is okay if they're Muslim, then you're implying Muslim children have less rights than other children. There's no way around that and I'm not even extrapolating, you are fucked in the head if you believe this. Forced marriages are fucked up even without children involved. How anyone can defend this is completely beyond my comprehension.
[QUOTE=Captain James;51664431][url=http://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-13/melbourne-imam-charged-over-forced-marriage-of-child/8180756]source[/url] Somewhere, someone thinks this was okay because of cultural relativism.[/QUOTE] Obviously not whoever's handling this case, lmao. Hope he gets locked up for a long time. Sick fuck.
You move to a country, you obey it's laws. Simple as.
[QUOTE=DOCTOR LIGHT;51664509]You exist purely to soil threads with contrarianism and bait, don't you?[/QUOTE] Learn what sarcasm is, please.
[QUOTE=1239the;51664451]Are we allowed a little more nuanced view like "they should definitely be punished for this and it doesn't fit with accepted Australian values but I can understand that adjusting to a culture so far removed from what you're used to doesn't come easily"?[/QUOTE] If your culture allows you to forcibly marry minors to old men, your request for nuance can go fuck itself.
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