San Francisco Approves Cellphone Radiation Law - Polidicks

[release]Preferring to err on the side of caution, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors on Tuesday voted 10-1 to require cell phone makers to post notices in their stores with details on the level of radiation each model emits. The ordinance requires retailers to post information on what is called the "specific absorption rate" (SAR) of its products. The SAR rates measure the amount of radio wave radiation absorbed into the user's body tissue. San Francisco Mayor Gavin Newsom, who supports the ordinance, is expected to sign it into law. It would take effect in February, with a $300 fine for those found in violation. Other jurisdictions, including Maine and California, have considered similar legislation, but it appears San Francisco would be the first to enact it. Some worry that prolonged exposure to cell phone radiation may cause brain cancer, although scientific studies have proven inconclusive. The most recent and most comprehensive study, conducted by Interphone and published May 17, found no increased risk for the two most common types of brain cancer. The lack of certainty one way or the other poses a conundrum. If the government issues warnings just to be safe, it may scare consumers needlessly. On the other hand, if a risk does indeed exist, the government is obligated to alert the public of the potential harm. The Federal Communication Commission, which regulates cell phone safety along with the Food and Drug Administration, states on its Web site "there is no scientific evidence to date that proves that wireless phone usage can lead to cancer or a variety of other health effects," but goes on to note that "studies are ongoing." The FCC has set a standard that no cell phone sold in the United States can have a SAR in excess of 1.6 watts per kilogram. Enterprising consumers can find SAR information on the FCC Web site, but they need to have the product's FCC ID code. San Francisco's new law would put that hard-to-find data directly in front of consumers in stores. Not surprisingly, representatives of the cell phone industry oppose the law, citing both the existing FCC standard and the lack of definitive scientific evidence linking cell phone use to brain cancer. John Walls, a spokesman for the Cellular Telecommunications and Internet Association, told the San Francisco Chronicle that the law "will potentially mislead consumers with point-of-sale requirements suggesting that some phones are safer than others, based on radio emissions." That argument did not sway the lawmakers in city of San Francisco, who say it will serve the public. "This is a modest and commonsense measure to provide greater transparency and information to consumer," Tony Winnicker, a spokesman for Mayor Newsom, told the Chronicle.[/release] [b]SOURCE:[/b] [url]http://www.pcworld.com/article/199041/san_francisco_approves_cellphone_radiation_law.html?tk=hp_new[/url]

use cell phones, grow multiple limbs. awesome. on-topic, i'm pretty sure the radiation emitted by cell phones is negligible.

Er, last time I checked radio waves were less energetic that visible light. And a cellphone produces non-ionizing radio waves. Oh wait look I was right: [QUOTE]Near ultraviolet, visible light, infrared, microwave, radio waves, and low-frequency RF (longwave) are all examples of non-ionizing radiation.[/QUOTE]

We take more rads to the brain standing in front of microwaves. People think phones are going to kill us? Hah.

Everything fucking causes cancer now.

:colbert:

Hahahahhahahaha Oh wait they're serious Bear with me as i proceed to laugh even harder

California needs money. It's pretty obvious.

heh

San Francisco: The New Texas? Story tonight at 11.

When I read the title I thought it was going to be a troll thread, and then I realized...

I could care less. People are having their face against a cellphone less and less and having them more in their pocket with earbuds attached to them to talk.

[QUOTE=BagMinge101;22671327]We take more rads to the brain standing in front of microwaves. People think phones are going to kill us? Hah.[/QUOTE] My family never uses the microwave for more than a total of 2 minutes per week :v:

Silly Frisco! Believing dis-proven science and making a law out of it.

Well if the average cell phone uses at most 1.99 Ghz radio waves, that means that it takes ~292674 of the waves hitting one electron at the exact same time to ionize it. And Ionizing one electron does not cause a huge issue, it is more if two are ionized at the same time. So that many waves have to hit two electrons at the same time. Oh and they have to all hit in phase. Having them out of phase would require roughly twice as many photons for each electron. I think my physics is right, but I haven't done Physics in a little while. If someone spots something wrong inform me. [editline]09:03PM[/editline] This is for carbon electrons, to remove electrons in other elements in the body it would take a different amount, but still a huge number.

this is a dumb law, considering cell phones don't nearly have enough power to create ionized radiation.

OH GOD THE CELL PHONE IS MELTING MY BRAIN :byodood:

I don't see anything wrong with posting how much radiation a product emits. It's not like certain phones are going to be banned or anything.

But it's going to make cellphones seem more dangerous than they are, as well as inducing shoppers to prefer the 'lower radiation' models for specifically that reason.

This is nice, it will shut up all the dumb lawsuits from cancer families.

[QUOTE=BagMinge101;22671327]We take more rads to the brain standing in front of microwaves. People think phones are going to kill us? Hah.[/QUOTE] You play too much Fallout and not enough real life. Your microwave oven gives off - shock horror - microwaves. They are lower frequency than even visible light. It wont give you cancer or a sixth toe or regenerating limbs.

[quote=Article]The most recent and most comprehensive study, conducted by Interphone and published May 17, found no increased risk for the two most common types of brain cancer. The lack of certainty one way or the other poses a conundrum.[/quote] How is that lack of certainty? They tested it and nothing happened!

[QUOTE=BrainDeath;22675909]You play too much Fallout and not enough real life. Your microwave oven gives off - shock horror - microwaves. They are lower frequency than even visible light. It wont give you cancer or a sixth toe or regenerating limbs.[/QUOTE] Yes and radiowaves are lower than microwaves, other than he needs to stop playing Fallout what was the point of stating that?

Fucking heroin addicted hippies, always complaining about newfangled technological phones.

Weren't these the assholes complaining about Arizona or was the LA? But as many others said in the forum... You get more rads from your microwave.

[QUOTE=Aznalt888;22671292]use cell phones, grow multiple limbs. awesome. on-topic, i'm pretty sure the radiation emitted by cell phones is negligible.[/QUOTE] You stick it in your pocket every day. It lets out its happy radiation. Right next to your balls.

Ugh, my grandmas convinced that phones cause cancer even though I've shown to her that it's pretty much scientifically impossible even if you had it taped to your head for 24 hours a day

[QUOTE=Shoupie;22671348]Everything fucking causes cancer now.[/QUOTE] Everything [B]DOES[/B] cause cancer. Seriously, even breathing can cause cancer.

Another glorious waste of time and paper. Who the fuck cares?

[QUOTE=bravehat;22685664]Everything [B]DOES[/B] cause cancer. Seriously, even breathing can cause cancer.[/QUOTE] Swallowing your own saliva can cause stomach and other GI cancers.