[quote=BBC]
A group campaigning for self-rule in Tibet says hundreds of people have held protests in western China after a Tibetan monk burned himself to death.
The London-based International Campaign for Tibet says the young monk set fire to himself in Aba, in Sichuan province.
China's state news agency said the monk died after protesters prevented him getting hospital treatment.
The reported unrest came three years after Tibet's most serious uprising against Chinese rule in two decades.
The BBC has not been able to independently verify these accounts, and local officials could not be reached for comment.
It is believed to be the second self-immolation since the violent demonstrations in March 2008.
Conflicting reports
The monk identified as Phuntsog, aged in his early 20s, set himself alight on Wednesday.
Tibetan rights groups reported that witnesses saw police put out the flames, then beat the monk to death, after which monks retrieved the dead body.
The account from state news agency Xinhua, however, blamed the monks for forcibly taking the monk out of hospital and hiding him in the Kirti monastery.
People in the area told news agencies of a security clampdown after the death and subsequent protests.
"The crossroads to the monastery (is) blocked by police," an employee at a hotel near the monastery in Sichuan province told AFP news agency.
"People are allowed to enter but the monks are not allowed to go out. Yesterday, the stores in this street were all closed."
In March 2008, Tibet witnessed a wave of violent anti-China protests. Beijing blamed the unrest on followers of the Dalai Lama, who it said were seeking to separate Tibet from China.
China responded to the unrest with a massive military crackdown. This extended to Aba - an area with a large ethnic Tibetan population - and violent clashes were reported.
Chinese police said they shot four protesters there in self-defence, while Tibetan activists said police had fired indiscriminately on protesters, killing at least eight.
Many Tibetans have complained about the growing domination of China's majority Han population in Tibet and accuse the government of trying to dilute their culture.
China says it has invested heavily in Tibet and has generated significant improvements in people's living standards.
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[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-12768944[/url]
Didn't someone burning himself to death start the middle east protests?
When ever someone burns their self, you know something big;s about to happen.
It takes balls of steel to light yourself on fire and then just [i]wait[/i]
Even though this guy survived the fire and then was beaten to death by the police
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28664299]It takes balls of steel to light yourself on fire and then just [i]wait[/i]
Even though this guy survived the fire and then was beaten to death by the police[/QUOTE]
This sounds like an amazing course of action to take. Incredible.
"Tibetan rights groups reported that witnesses saw police put out the flames, then beat the monk to death"
what the fuck
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28664299]It takes balls of steel to light yourself on fire and then just [i]wait[/i]
Even though this guy survived the fire and then was beaten to death by the police[/QUOTE]
They were just trying to beat the flames out!
Oh I get now why you put the quote around 'sparks'.
"self-immolation SPARKS protest"
fucking BBC
Self-immolation for a political point is the manliest way to die ever.
he is going to light the path to freedom, inflame the people for revolution, and burn down the oppressive government with his actions
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28664495]Self-immolation for a political point is the manliest way to die ever.[/QUOTE]
What about the immolation of other people for a political point
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28664580]What about the immolation of other people for a political point[/QUOTE]
Sad and cowardly.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;28664580]What about the immolation of other people for a political point[/QUOTE]
Not nearly as manly.
Also, not really a way to die.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28664650]
Also, not really a way to die.[/QUOTE]
When people figure out what you're up to it is
I respect the fortitude and intentness in purpose of that man and all the people who partake in that act.
Photos of his burning will probably be Rage against the Machine's next album cover
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28664495]Self-immolation for a political point is the manliest way to die ever.[/QUOTE]
No, I would say dying in the middle of a battle in the thick of combat swinging a claymore sword around and yelling loudly is possibly more manly.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;28665334]No, I would say dying in the middle of a battle in the thick of combat swinging a claymore sword around and yelling loudly is possibly more manly.[/QUOTE]
Sparking a nationwide revolution is far more manly than swinging a chunk of metal around and screaming like a loony.
Self immolation sounds like such a cool phrase.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;28665334]No, I would say dying in the middle of a battle in the thick of combat swinging a claymore sword around and yelling loudly is possibly more manly.[/QUOTE]
yelling while swinging around a phallic object taking out your sexual repressions on people is more manly? no way
My gosh it takes a lot of courage to do this kind of thing knowing you'll eventually suffer a lot and die afterwards.
Anyway, I don't agree with self-immolation to prove your point. First of all, you're dead, so you can't pursue your own opinions anymore. Secondly, everyone will be scared for a few days but then you'll be forgotten like anyone else. That monk who died in the '70s isn't even remembered anymore. I'm sorry for this other guy, but I think he's lost a battle.
[QUOTE=TerabyteS;28665793]My gosh it takes a lot of courage to do this kind of thing knowing you'll eventually suffer a lot and die afterwards.
Anyway, I don't agree with self-immolation to prove your point. First of all, you're dead, so you can't pursue your own opinions anymore. Secondly, everyone will be scared for a few days but then you'll be forgotten like anyone else. [B]That monk who died in the '70s isn't even remembered anymore.[/B] I'm sorry for this other guy, but I think he's lost a battle.[/QUOTE]
He is. Just not by name.
[QUOTE=TerabyteS;28665793]First of all, you're dead, so you can't pursue your own opinions anymore.[/quote]
Dying for something you believe in inspires others to take action, more than most people could do alone. It drives home the point that this issue is worth dying for, for the person doing it, anyway. People don't set themselves on fire because their cereal got soggy or because parking violations are bullshit.
[QUOTE=TerabyteS;28665793]Secondly, everyone will be scared for a few days but then you'll be forgotten like anyone else. That monk who died in the '70s isn't even remembered anymore. I'm sorry for this other guy, but I think he's lost a battle.[/QUOTE]
No, lol
[QUOTE=TerabyteS;28665793]That monk who died in the '70s isn't even remembered anymore.[/QUOTE]
i'm guessing you are talking about [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Qu%E1%BA%A3ng_%C4%90%E1%BB%A9c] Thich Quang-Duc[/url] who died in the [B]60's.[/B]
As Penn and Teller put it. Complaining because their land was taken over, and they were given electricity, running water, and an economy.
[QUOTE=JohnnyMo1;28664650]Not nearly as manly.
Also, not really a way to die.[/QUOTE]
What if it is the immolation of your political enemies?
[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;28666345]As Penn and Teller put it. Complaining because their land was taken over, and they were given electricity, running water, and an economy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah and fuck Native Americans too :downs:
What if you clone yourself, grow your clone for a decade and set that on fire?
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