• Mugging victim offers to help woman in debt who helped fundraise for him
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[img]http://i.imgur.com/tbgQT7Y.jpg[/img] [img]http://i.imgur.com/AMbm5wd.jpg[/img] [quote] The mugging victim Alan Barnes has said he would be happy to contribute about £10 towards paying off the debts of a woman who helped raise more than £330,000 for him. Barnes, 68, who is disabled and 4ft 6in, was attacked outside his home in Gateshead in January 2015, breaking his collarbone. Following the assault, Katie Cutler, a beautician, set up an online fundraising page, which attracted donations from across the world. The eventual sum raised enabled Barnes to buy a new house. But Cutler is facing the prospect of bailiffs turning up at her house after she was handed a bill of almost £7,000 by a PR company. ... Barnes, a pensioner, said he would contribute a “small amount ... £10 or something,” when asked about Cutler’s plight. He told the Chronicle newspaper that he believes a fund should be set up for Cutler and he would be “quite happy to put just a small donation in”. “It’s easy for people to say ‘he’s got a lot of money, cough up,’ but you’ve got to look into all the alternatives,” he said. “It might seem hard, but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.” Richard Gatiss, who attacked Barnes, was sentenced to four years in prison at Newcastle crown court in April 2015, having previously admitted assault with intent to rob. [url]https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/sep/16/muggim-victim-alan-barnes-offers-small-donation-fundraiser-katie-cutler[/url] [/quote] Legend.
What the hell? What an asshole
actually in this case you can give money back to the person who gave you money, and if people ask for his money like he said then he can easily say no.
“It might seem hard, but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.” w o w
[quote] “It might seem hard, but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.”[/quote] She's literally the person that started the thing that got you all that money, I thnk you'd be able to make an exception and tell everyone who has a go at you to fuck off about it if they have a problem with it.
[quote]“It might seem hard, but if I start handing it out, other people might ask for money. It was given to me on the understanding that I use it for myself.”[/quote] Shouldn't have raised any money for the asshole.
[quote]Following the mugging, Barnes said he would move to the Shetland Islands, after getting a “call from God”, and put his house in Gateshead up for sale.[/quote] They used quotation marks, but judging from his other behaviour, I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't all there. Still a dick move though.
How the fuck can you not see that as insulting?
Mr. Burns is getting on a bit ain't he
he looks like one of those progerian kids
The guy had a point. People would start asking for money.
Can somebody change the title to show how much of a dick this guy is. [editline]16th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Aide;51061617]The guy had a point. People would start asking for money.[/QUOTE] I mean it would make sense for anybody else, but this is the person who basically helped fundraised money to give him a new house.
This little fella ain't the full shilling.
If you guys read the article, he said that he plans to donate what remains of the 300k when he dies. So of course he wants to keep as much as possible so he can donate as much as possible. With that kind of money, there will be hecklers who try to beg/take/steal some of it. Also it isn't his business to help repay he woman's debt imo. He didn't ask for it, she did it herself and now she has to pay for the costs. That's my two cents. (And now I'm going to get crucified for my opinion most likely.)
Whaaaaaat? The woman did such a nice thing for him and helped raise 330 GRAND and he can't even be bothered to help out the woman who went above and beyond for him? It's a 7000 pound fine she has, surely he can afford to pay half that, if not more? God damn, I'd not be able to sleep at night if I knew the person who raised 330,000 for me was in money trouble, especially when I could help. Guy is a monumental cunt, but he's probably not mentally sound. Looks like a turnip that's been left in the soil too long. [editline]16th September 2016[/editline] God it's even more painful when you realise the debt she has is due to the fundraising marketing she did to help the little prick out. I genuinely can't understand why he wouldn't be able to cough up 7 grand to help her, especially since she's [I]still[/I] being a really lovely person about it and saying he shouldn't have to pay her. [editline]16th September 2016[/editline] Also I think it was pretty stupid in the first place to put all that time and effort into a fundraiser for a guy that got mugged. He probably lost a lot less than a thousand quid in the mugging, I dunno why that's grounds for him to get 330k back.
Tbh, her fault for getting into debt in the first place. It's one thing to donate but if it's going to incur yourself into debt then that's a sacrifice you make on your own decision. If you can't be responsible and you're in debt then you've got plenty of options to pay it off.
[QUOTE=Chopstick;51062047]Tbh, her fault for getting into debt in the first place. It's one thing to donate but if it's going to incur yourself into debt then that's a sacrifice you make on your own decision. If you can't be responsible and you're in debt then you've got plenty of options to pay it off.[/QUOTE] Sure it's her fault, doesn't change that he's being more than a bit of an ass not helping her out.
Well, even if it's not his fault at all, if I were him I'd feel obligated to do quite more than giving 10 lousy pounds, I'd rather do nothing than give that pittance. I understand his view on the matter, but there's no way he could have gotten that money if it wasn't for her, and I don't think that giving a grand or two to the person that managed to get him enough money for the rest of his life would have hurt his financial position that much.
[QUOTE=Deathtrooper2;51061627] I mean it would make sense for anybody else, but this is the person who basically helped fundraised money to give him a new house.[/QUOTE] I wish I could rob somebody, then when it doesn't go well, offer to help them. Then in return, get rewarded for trying to be a good person to the person I just attempted to rob... I hope I'm not reading this wrong.
[QUOTE=find me;51063064]I wish I could rob somebody, then when it doesn't go well, offer to help them. Then in return, get rewarded for trying to be a good person to the person I just attempted to rob... I hope I'm not reading this wrong.[/QUOTE] You are reading it wrong... The woman who is in debt is the one who initially started the fundraiser for fucknut-peanut-head who got mugged. She incurred debt from the marketing campaign people who helped spread the word. Fucknut-peanut-head is only willing to put 10 pounds towards her 7000 pound debt, despite the fact this is the woman who got him more than 330,000 pounds. She isn't the one who mugged him, you walnut. [editline]17th September 2016[/editline] In hindsight, Katie Cutler should have given Dobby a sock instead of making a fundraising page for the ungrateful fuck. [editline]17th September 2016[/editline] [url]http://video.dailymail.co.uk/video/mol/2016/09/16/1358085885902764583/640x360_MP4_1358085885902764583.mp4[/url] literally can't contain the rage I feel. "And with any money left over she can donate it to charity" why the fuck didn't he donate to charity?
[QUOTE=joshuadim;51061802]If you guys read the article, he said that he plans to donate what remains of the 300k when he dies. So of course he wants to keep as much as possible so he can donate as much as possible. With that kind of money, there will be hecklers who try to beg/take/steal some of it. Also it isn't his business to help repay he woman's debt imo. He didn't ask for it, she did it herself and now she has to pay for the costs. That's my two cents. (And now I'm going to get crucified for my opinion most likely.)[/QUOTE] he doesn't OWE it to her per se, but what he's doing is really fucked on a societal level.
[QUOTE=Chopstick;51062047]Tbh, her fault for getting into debt in the first place. It's one thing to donate but if it's going to incur yourself into debt then that's a sacrifice you make on your own decision. If you can't be responsible and you're in debt then you've got plenty of options to pay it off.[/QUOTE] Unless I'm misunderstanding, I think that she is in debt because she hired a PR company to promote his fundraiser. That is why he has the money in the first place. She probably assumed that he would rightfully pay for the costs of running the fundraiser. This is what being a good person gets you these days..
He should start a fundraiser to pay her debt.
to be fair, he does have a point. it happens all the time with people who win lottery's. family members ask them for money, money money money. though since this PR campaign was for him, I think he should pay around 1k euros. he isnt obligated to pay this; she did it out of her own goodwill, and he should do this out of his own goodwill
[QUOTE=Maadz;51064178]to be fair, he does have a point. it happens all the time with people who win lottery's. family members ask them for money, money money money. though since this PR campaign was for him, I think he should pay around 1k euros. he isnt obligated to pay this; she did it out of her own goodwill, and he should do this out of his own goodwill[/QUOTE] Exactly, she hardly knew him but she did what she did out of goodwill, he doesn't owe her a debt but out of goodwill he should help her as she helped him.
[QUOTE=Maadz;51064178]to be fair, he does have a point. it happens all the time with people who win lottery's. family members ask them for money, money money money. though since this PR campaign was for him, I think he should pay around 1k euros. he isnt obligated to pay this; she did it out of her own goodwill, and he should do this out of his own goodwill[/QUOTE] What are you talking about? She isn't asking for a handout, or even charity. It's not even comparable in the least. She needs him to pay the costs for running the fundraiser. A tiny sum of money relative to the amount he made off it. The PR company she hired for him may have been the difference between him earning £30k and the ridiculous amount he did. I mean he broke his fucking collarbone, big deal. I don't think he deserved a cent in the first place, but that's besides the point. I don't really understand how anyone could think he shouldn't pay. Yeah, maybe she shouldn't of hired them before confirming with him that he'd pay the bill with part of the funding he receives. That is definitely a mistake on her part. But fuck, I don't blame her for assuming that the ungrateful little cunt would pay it without blinking. I'll remember to crack a beer when the old scrooge finally dies.
[QUOTE=karlosfandango;51064211]Exactly, she hardly knew him but she did what she did out of goodwill, he doesn't owe her a debt but out of goodwill he should help her as she helped him.[/QUOTE] Yeah, he fucking does owe her a debt, maybe not if she wasn't having financial troubles, but she's in financial trouble because she helped him out of good will, giving her 7 grand because she actually really needs it is the fucking [I]least[/I] he should do. Maybe it's just how I've been raised that if someone does a good turn for you, you do, when and however possible the same for them. Especially in a situation like this where she got into debt because she helped him out of good will.
I wonder if it's because he's already spent the money on something else, like a house?
[QUOTE=RayvenQ;51065175]Yeah, he fucking does owe her a debt, maybe not if she wasn't having financial troubles, but she's in financial trouble because she helped him out of good will, giving her 7 grand because she actually really needs it is the fucking [I]least[/I] he should do. Maybe it's just how I've been raised that if someone does a good turn for you, you do, when and however possible the same for them. Especially in a situation like this where she got into debt because she helped him out of good will.[/QUOTE] Did I not say the same thing?
[QUOTE=aznz888;51065769]I wonder if it's because he's already spent the money on something else, like a house?[/QUOTE] Article reported he spent 150,000 on a house and donated the rest to charity. I think he donated it to the Church, cause he seems religious. What a waste.
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