• Possible explanation why Windows 10 is called "10" rather than "9" comes forth
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[IMG]http://www.sweclockers.com/image/red/2014/10/02/Kod1.gif?t=articleFull&k=8902677f[/IMG] [quote][B] The wildly discussed decision of renaming "Windows 9" to "Windows 10" may be explained by Microsoft wanting to avoid problems with bluntly designed, especially older, software. [/B]After Windows 7 and Windows 8, there won't be a Windows 9. There will, however, be a Windows 10. Microsoft's decision to skip "9" has been wildly discussed and ridiculed all over the web, with the most popular hypothesis being that Microsoft doesn't want Windows to seem "lesser" than Apple's Mac OSX. The explanation may be more pragmatic than that, however. In a post on Reddit, a user who claims to work for Microsoft explains that the sudden namechange isn't some kind of marketing ploy, but that it's actually an action to avoid problems with older software using clumsily designed system detection routines. Example: [IMG]http://i.imgur.com/2LkHJug.png[/IMG] This is something that would cause the software to wrongly assume that the machine is actually running a version of Windows 95 or 98. For professional programmers, system detection algorithms working like that may just seem like some kind of urban legend, but a quick search on [URL="https://searchcode.com/?q=if%28version%2Cstartswith%28%22windows%209%22%29&p=0"]SearchCode[/URL] reveals that this is not the case, there are multiple pieces of code like that, which instead of checking the version number, looks for the version name. This would affect corporations in particular, as many of them are still using very old software that's been special-designed for them. A Windows called "9" would most certainly be able to cause a lot of unnecessary headaches for some of them. Microsoft's own, rather limping, explanation, is that they wanted the name to symbolise the great effort they've put in to make the new version of Windows a uniform one, with support for all kinds of devices, and that they were initially thinking about naming it "Windows One", but scrapped that idea to avoid people from confusing it with "Windows 1.0". [/quote] Source: [url]http://www.sweclockers.com/nyhet/19416-microsofts-undvikande-av-windows-9-kan-forklaras-av-dalig-kod[/url]
So what I don't understand is why not make this one named, like XP or Vista? Wouldn't that bypass the issue? Is Microsoft so adamant on using a purely numbers-based naming scheme that they're going to outright skip numbers to do it?
Oh god, imagine IF Microsoft ended up calling it the windows one.
call it windows "nine" instead of "9" then
[QUOTE=catbarf;46133360]So what I don't understand is why not make this one named, like XP or Vista? Wouldn't that bypass the issue? Is Microsoft so adamant on using a purely numbers-based naming scheme that they're going to outright skip numbers to do it?[/QUOTE] Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox 1 I think it's well established by now they don't really care about what numbers actually mean
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;46133389]Xbox Xbox 360 Xbox 1 I think it's well established by now they don't really care about what numbers actually mean[/QUOTE] well the xbox 360 was supposed to be a full circle improvement(???) over xbox1 and [B]the[/B] xbox 1 is supposed to be....marketing, thats all i can think of
Why the fuck is this even an issue
for all it matters, the xbox 360 is in degrees, 360 degrees in radians would be 1 so the xbox 360 and the xbox 1 are the same name in different measurement conventions
It's the one thing you need to have in your living room. All in one. That kind of line of advertising basically.
It is so as to not cause wacky misunderstandings in Germany.
Sorry about the OP fucking up people
[QUOTE=redBadger;46133413]Why the fuck is this even an issue[/QUOTE] Because there are a lot of bad developers out there. There's also a similar reason why Windows versions now start with 6.X.. But I can't remember why
[QUOTE=Hugg;46133430]Because there are a lot of bad developers out there. There's also a similar reason why Windows versions now start with 6.X.. But I can't remember why[/QUOTE] I think he means why do people care its called 10 instead of 9. If anyone wants to be pissed off about stupid naming problems then they havent even heard of how GPUs are just random fucking numbers that don't mean anything at all.
Hang on I thought this was a joke? Surely they can't be serious. Like, I've written some truly evil lines of code, but who would do a string comparison to work out what OS you're on.
[QUOTE=codemaster85;46133440]I think he means why do people care its called 10 instead of 9. [B]If anyone wants to be pissed off about stupid naming problems then they havent even heard of how GPUs are just random fucking numbers that don't mean anything at all.[/B][/QUOTE] Well, in Nvidia's case, the leftmost number indicates the generation, while the second and third number indicates level of performance I.E a 580 is faster than a 550. A 750 was designed more recently than the 580, but is in a much lower performance-tier, and is in fact slower
[QUOTE=codemaster85;46133440]I think he means why do people care its called 10 instead of 9. If anyone wants to be pissed off about stupid naming problems then they havent even heard of how GPUs are just random fucking numbers that don't mean anything at all.[/QUOTE] Some numbers do actually mean something tho, the first number is usually the generation, then after that it's just higher number = better (unless it's a mobile chip then the number isn't equivalent to the desktop card). There's some interesting stuff here: [url]http://www.reddit.com/r/programming/comments/2i14ny/if_osnamestartswithwindows_9/[/url]
People seem to underestimatejust how much lazy coding there can be out there. But I truly understand what the reasoning is for all the lines of code that reference to a 9x just to make sure it includes both 95 and 98. So they went with the next number :v:
As I was saying in Skype earlier... 9 is a lot uglier to graphically represent. 10 is more logical of a choice. Easy to make as a graphic, but it can also represent the digits of binary.
Isn't this similar to the Y2K bug?
I wish the next windows was Windows 11, and the next one after that Windows 100, and the one after Windows 101...
[QUOTE=Sableye;46133416]for all it matters, the xbox 360 is in degrees, 360 degrees in radians would be 1 so the xbox 360 and the xbox 1 are the same name in different measurement conventions[/QUOTE] 360 degrees = 2pi radians.
We only got another 85 versions to go. Then what do we do?
Belive it or not microsoft cares more about backwards compatibility than the name making sense.
[QUOTE=pentium;46133635]We only got another 85 versions to go. Then what do we do?[/QUOTE] Start naming them after [del]cats[/del] [del]deserts[/del] [del]candy[/del] [del]philosophies[/del] Holy fuck what hasn't been used for the name of software/OS'?
[QUOTE=Tools;46133851]Start naming them after [del]cats[/del] [del]deserts[/del] [del]candy[/del] [del]philosophies[/del] Holy fuck what hasn't been used for the name of software/OS'?[/QUOTE] Countries. Windows Norway Windows North Korea Windows Russia
[QUOTE=eirexe;46133715]Belive it or not microsoft cares more about backwards compatibility than the name making sense.[/QUOTE] Another thing to note is that the leaked win2k source code was filled with half-fixed bugs so everything that used them was kept compatible.
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[QUOTE=Tools;46133851]Start naming them after [del]cats[/del] [del]deserts[/del] [del]candy[/del] [del]philosophies[/del] Holy fuck what hasn't been used for the name of software/OS'?[/QUOTE] [URL="hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/"][del]Celebrities[/del][/URL]
[QUOTE=redBadger;46133413]Why the fuck is this even an issue[/QUOTE] Because no one thinks 20 years ahead, same reason the Y2K thing was even remotely an issue. [editline]2nd October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Hugg;46133430]Because there are a lot of bad developers out there. There's also a similar reason why Windows versions now start with 6.X.. But I can't remember why[/QUOTE] I heard that but apparently its false, win 10 is apparently showing as 9.x (I'll go check in a second). Microsoft did add a bunch of methods to the Windows API and recommended (since 8.1) to stop using any method other than them. Its methods like "isNewerThanXP" etc. Edit: I am wrong, its 6.4.
[QUOTE=Gmod4ever;46133918]Porn Stars. Windows Lexi Belle Windows Lisa Anne Windows Christy Mack[/QUOTE] Cars Windows Corvette Windows Mustang Windows Challenger 11/10 would buy 20 copies.
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