• Conservative Party Manifesto Launched
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[QUOTE=BBC]A programme to provide "strong and stable leadership through Brexit and beyond" and a "declaration of intent" to tackle the "giant challenges" facing Britain over the coming decade. Theresa May's foreword says: "This election is the most important this country has faced in my lifetime. Our future prosperity, our place in the world, our standard of living, and the opportunities we want for our children - and our children's children - all depend on getting the next five years right... if we succeed, the opportunities ahead of us are great."[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Key Points] Key Points (will update as I find more) [B]Date to balance budget put back to 2025[/B] [2015->2020->Scrapped->2025 trust us please] Increase NHS spending by a minimum of £8bn in real terms over the next five years Scrap the triple-lock on the state pension, which guarantees it rises by the highest of average earnings, inflation or 2.5% Means test winter fuel payments, taking away £300 from wealthier pensioners Scrap free school lunches for infants in England, but offer free breakfasts across the primary years Net migration cut to below 100,000 Scrap a planned £72,000 cap on care costs, which had been due in 2020 Increase the personal allowance to £12,500 and the higher rate to £50,000 by 2020 Maintain pledge to cut corporation tax to 17% by 2020 Regulate more efficiently, saving £9bn through the Red Tape Challenge and the One-In-Two-Out Rule Increase the National Living Wage to 60% of median earnings by 2020 [~16k/year] Pump an extra £4bn a year into schools by 2022 End ban on grammar schools - conditions would include allowing pupils to join at "other ages as well as eleven" Ask universities and independent schools to help run state schools A specialist maths school to be opened in every major city in England due to new funding arrangements Every 11-year-old expected to know their times tables off by heart Introduce T-Levels Require foreign workers and overseas students to pay more to cover the cost of NHS care. Exit the European single market and customs union but seek a "deep and special partnership" including comprehensive free trade and customs agreement epeal or replace the Human Rights Act "while the process of Brexit is under way" ruled out, although consideration will be given to the UK's "human rights legal framework" when Brexit concludes Second part of the Leveson Inquiry into the culture, practices and ethics of the press will not take place Legislate if progress not made to reduce the "disproportionate use of force" against black, Asian and ethnic minority people in prison, young offender institutions and secure mental health units. Against more large-scale onshore wind power for England, but maintain position as a global leader in offshore wind and development of wind projects in the remote islands of Scotland, where they directly benefit local communities Develop the shale industry in Britain Halve rough sleeping over the course of the next parliament and eliminate it by 2027. Almost every car and van to be zero-emission by 2050 with £600m investment by 2020 to help achieve it. Spend at least 2% of GDP on defence and increase the budget by at least 0.5% above inflation in every year of the new parliament [/QUOTE] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-39945597]BBC Live Feed[/url] [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39960311]BBC[/url] [url=https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto]The Manifesto[/url]
Scrap the triple-lock on the state pension, which guarantees it rises by the highest of average earnings, inflation or 2.5% Raising cost of care threshold from £23,000 to £100,000 - but include value of home in calculation of assets for home care as well as residential care gotta appeal to those old peeps who actually have time to vote
Extra money for the NHS, I'm having deja vu
[QUOTE=jamzzster;52244787]Extra money for the NHS, I'm having deja vu[/QUOTE] Yeah I'm not buying it. Although, maybe if they wrote it on the side of a bus?...
[QUOTE=jamzzster;52244787]Extra money for the NHS, I'm having deja vu[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Halve rough sleeping over the course of the next parliament and eliminate it by 2027. [/QUOTE] I want to see if they actually have any plan for this or just included it to pretend they give a fuck. [QUOTE]To achieve this we will set up a new homelessness reduction taskforce that will focus on prevention and affordable housing, and we will pilot a Housing First approach to tackle rough sleeping. [/QUOTE] Basically they're not actually going to do anything. [QUOTE]Homelessness has doubled since 2010 – disastrous Conservative housing decisions have caused it[/QUOTE] [url=http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/homelessness-crisis-doubled-theresa-may-conservatives-a7384476.html]Source[/url]
[QUOTE]Halve rough sleepers over the course of the next parliament and eliminate them by 2027.[/QUOTE] [B]edit[/B] [QUOTE]Pump an extra £4bn a year into schools by 2022 End ban on grammar schools - conditions would include allowing pupils to join at "other ages as well as eleven"[/QUOTE] And that's the extra £4 billion spent.
Lol. Even if their ~ homelessness reduction taskforce~ was anything more than them trying to look like they are taking action while doing nothing at all- we would only be aiming to bring the number of rough sleepers back down to the level it was at before they doubled it in the first place.
[QUOTE]Every 11-year-old expected to know their times tables off by heart[/QUOTE] There's some stupid shit in here (and other shit I don't understand due to not being British obviously) but this is SO FUCKING STUPID AND BACKWARDS IT PISSES ME OFF. NOBODY IN THE MODERN FUCKING WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THEIR TIME TABLES! NO ONE! This sort of backwards teaching is why British education is going down the shitter. While this is clearly not a huge pledge it's indicative of a feel-good, idiotic view of education that will get nothing done. God DAMN reading something so STUPID legitimately pisses me off.
but don't you know what 7x9 is off by heart? (it's 63)
[QUOTE=lintz;52244836]but don't you know what 7x9 is off by heart? (it's 63)[/QUOTE] I do but sure like there's calculators out there. As well as getting people to learn it off shifts the focus from knowing what multiplication actually means and instead gets people to learn off certain combinations instead of thinking.
[QUOTE=lintz;52244836]but don't you know what 7x9 is off by heart? (it's 63)[/QUOTE] Really, they had us do this by fourth grade in the states. and I'm in Alabama, which is like ranked 49/50 for education.
[QUOTE]Scrap free school lunches for infants in England, but offer free breakfasts across the primary years[/QUOTE] Who even gets breakfast at school, beside those at boarding schools? [QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52244818]NOBODY IN THE MODERN FUCKING WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THEIR TIME TABLES! NO ONE![/QUOTE] As an ex-roulette dealer... :v: I suppose technically you only need to know your 5, 11, 8, 17 and 35 times table up to x20.
[QUOTE=El Burro;52244863]Who even gets breakfast at school, beside those at boarding schools? As an ex-roulette dealer... :v: I suppose technically you only need to know your 5, 11, 8, 17 and 35 times table up to x20.[/QUOTE] OK correction: People in gambling need to know their times tables but not anyone else really. Is that OK :v:
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52244818]There's some stupid shit in here (and other shit I don't understand due to not being British obviously) but this is SO FUCKING STUPID AND BACKWARDS IT PISSES ME OFF. NOBODY IN THE MODERN FUCKING WORLD NEEDS TO KNOW THEIR TIME TABLES! NO ONE! This sort of backwards teaching is why British education is going down the shitter. While this is clearly not a huge pledge it's indicative of a feel-good, idiotic view of education that will get nothing done. God DAMN reading something so STUPID legitimately pisses me off.[/QUOTE] I'm torn. Knowing my times tables made secondary school maths massively easier because I wasn't dealing with trying to multiply work out what they were but on the other hand I know a guy who got an A or A* (can't remember) in further maths without ever explicitly learning times tables (I expect he did eventually by pure repetition in questions by the end). Honestly I think we need to make maths more accessible not less because people who could be great at it assume it's too hard and they'll never get it so they don't. That said I did do A level further maths and am now doing a degree in electronic engineering so I do a lot more maths than the average person.
None of these seem to be particularly forthcoming on anything absolute...
[QUOTE]A new deal for ordinary, working people giving them a decent living wage and new rights and protections in the workplace.[/QUOTE] This seems funny coming from a Conservative party. I'm sure FDR language goes really well in their focus groups (??) [QUOTE]Borrowing always means spending money you do not have; but government borrowing differs because the repayment falls to others – those who come later, including people not yet born. Conservatives believe in balancing the books and paying down debts – because it is wrong to pass to future generations a bill you cannot or will not pay yourself.[/QUOTE] Will politicians ever admit that central governments with their own central banking system and currency are actually different to the households and companies that operate using their currency and laws, or is it just too hard to break away from this mentality that the Kings & Lords need your gold to finance the Navy?
We're the Conservatives, borrowing is bad. Don't mind us, we don't need to cost billion pound proposals. Labour will brankrupt Britain! [editline]18th May 2017[/editline] Do the Torys really think the general population want fox hunting back? So clearly for their lovely friends and donors.
[QUOTE=lintz;52244836]but don't you know what 7x9 is off by heart? (it's 63)[/QUOTE] I don't. I barely know any of it off by heart, but I still completed university and do my own taxes.
The manifesto says all future elections will require voter ID, with no plans to issue a free voter ID card like in Northern Ireland, and also mayoral and PCC elections will be changed to first past the post [url]http://electoral-reform.org.uk/press-release/%E2%80%98overbearing-and-counterproductive%E2%80%99-conservatives%E2%80%99-mandatory-voter-id-plans-raise[/url]
[QUOTE]Every 11-year-old expected to know their times tables off by heart[/QUOTE] what the fuck is this
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;52244987]what the fuck is this[/QUOTE] imo another dumb pandering to old people who think education is literally just the 3 rs
[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;52244990]imo another dumb pandering to old people who think education is literally just the 3 rs[/QUOTE] that has to be the stupidest thing included on a manifesto, there's more important issues for the UK to face than pupils knowing their fucking timetables
[QUOTE=Bob The Knob;52244967]The manifesto says all future elections will require voter ID, with no plans to issue a free voter ID card like in Northern Ireland, and also mayoral and PCC elections will be changed to first past the post [url]http://electoral-reform.org.uk/press-release/%E2%80%98overbearing-and-counterproductive%E2%80%99-conservatives%E2%80%99-mandatory-voter-id-plans-raise[/url][/QUOTE] finally, dealing with all that electoral fraud that occurs in the elect- wait wasn't that the conservatives
[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2017-39956541[/url] This article pisses me the fuck off, this is a clear Conservative biased piece on the BBC. "No no, we're not right leaning at all! We're the [B]BBC[/B] we're [I]Impartial![/I]" [quote]A cursory glance at some of the key figures at the corporation provides some evidence as to why this is the case. Chris Patten, the chairman of the BBC Trust, is a former chair of the Conservative Party and Tory cabinet minister. Andrew Neil, a celebrated interviewer and the presenter of the BBC’s flagship political programmes Daily and Sunday Politics and This Week – who, unlike many of his colleagues, was not privately educated – is known to have stridently right-wing views, chairs the conservative Spectator magazine and is a former Sunday Times editor. Robbie Gibb, the editor of these shows, is former chief of staff to Conservative politician Francis Maude, and was one-time deputy chair of the Federation of Conservative Students, before it was wound up by Norman Tebbit for being too right wing. The BBC’s political editor, Nick Robinson, is a former national chairman of the Young Conservatives. In another example of the Establishment’s revolving door, Robinson’s senior political producer, Thea Rogers, was poached by George Osborne at the end of 2012. Other Conservative politicians fish from the BBC, too. David Cameron hired former BBC news editor Craig Oliver as his director of communications following Andy Coulson’s resignation. Tory Mayor Boris Johnson’s communications chief was Guto Harri, a former BBC political correspondent. When Harri left to join the Murdoch empire as director of communications at News UK, the successor to News International, he was replaced by the BBC’s Westminster news editor Will Walden.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;52245005]finally, dealing with all that electoral fraud that occurs in the elect- wait wasn't that the conservatives[/QUOTE] They can say anything they want though, the majority of voters are too fucking stupid to realise a damn thing. Are people so stupid they'll continually eat the shit the tories/right wing continue to feed them. Its sad how they keep getting away with it
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52244846]I do but sure like there's calculators out there. As well as getting people to learn it off shifts the focus from knowing what multiplication actually means and instead gets people to learn off certain combinations instead of thinking.[/QUOTE] It's actually quite useful in none calculator situations to know your basic times tables, makes the whole process of doing multiplication a lot quicker if you can break multiplication sums down into bits and work it out using basic times tables so there's no real reason to be against it.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;52245132]It's actually quite useful in none calculator situations to know your basic times tables, makes the whole process of doing multiplication a lot quicker if you can break multiplication sums down into bits and work it out using basic times tables so there's no real reason to be against it.[/QUOTE] It's useful yeah but the reason this is pissing me off is that with all the problems education in Britain has, they want to focus on one tiny part that's not needed in today's world and could enforce shitty education practices of learning off something without understanding how it actually works? That's just tomfoolery.
This manifesto is disturbingly similar in rhetoric to Labour's 1997 manifesto Like this is a line from Labour's 1997 Manifesto [QUOTE]I want a Britain that is one nation, with shared values and purpose, where merit comes before privilege, run for the many not the few, strong and sure of itself at home and abroad.[/QUOTE] and this is an extract from the Conservatives manifesto [QUOTE]This is our vision of a nation united, of shared opportunity, of safe, vibrant and sustainable communities and of a Great Meritocracy, where everyone, in every part of our country, is given the chance to go wherever their talents will take them. [/QUOTE]
Shitty uncosted manifesto, shitty corrupt government Why do the conservatives insist on having impossible to read super long Flash flip book manifestos? Maybe it's so that people can't read them?
[QUOTE=Shadow801;52245271]Shitty uncosted manifesto, shitty corrupt government Why do the conservatives insist on having impossible to read super long Flash flip book manifestos? Maybe it's so that people can't read them?[/QUOTE] probably. so people resort to basing their opinions from buzz words and alliterated phrases. "strong and stable" "coalition of chaos" "brexit means breakfast"
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