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WASHINGTON — The Pentagon plans to destroy more than $1 billion worth of ammunition although some of those bullets and missiles could still be used by troops, according to the Pentagon and congressional sources.
It's impossible to know what portion of the arsenal slated for destruction — valued at $1.2 billion by the Pentagon — remains viable because the Defense Department's inventory systems can't share data effectively, according to a Government Accountability Office report obtained by USA TODAY.
The result: potential waste of unknown value.
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Source: [url]http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2014/04/27/pentagon-ammunition-sen-tom-carper-gao-waste/8145729/[/url]
Obviously its not all stuff that civilians could use, but christ, throw the usable shit up on the surplus market! They'd make a fucking killing.
Plus it would be awesome to see the price of .50cal drop after a flood of milsurp hits the market :v:
Smartest thing the USA has ever done yet (Sarcasm)
Can't we just sell it to people?
Good. They should recycle what metal and chemicals they can for productive purposes.
motherfucking gaylords of bullets, Jesus christ I bet those are heavy.
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Derp, 2445lbs
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;44683228]Good. They should recycle what metal and chemicals they can for productive purposes.[/QUOTE]
Why not sell it to civilians or NATO units.
[QUOTE=Del91;44683229]motherfucking gaylords of bullets, Jesus christ I bet those are heavy.
[editline]29th April 2014[/editline]
Derp, 2445lbs[/QUOTE]
pretty sure the picture is unrelated to the article as that appears to be just brass
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;44683228]Good. They should recycle what metal and chemicals they can for productive purposes.[/QUOTE]
Hippy
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44683226]Can't we just sell it to people?[/QUOTE]
yeah i wouldnt mind buying some missiles
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;44683228]Good. They should recycle what metal and chemicals they can for productive purposes.[/QUOTE]
Too bad, they pile it up into a big pit in the desert and set it off with C4. Not actually sure about the C4 bit, but it's not really safe to break down ammunition into the base components and melt it down.
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;44683228]Good. They should recycle what metal and chemicals they can for productive purposes.[/QUOTE]
I'd say selling it to people that will actually shoot it is more productive that blowing it up in some fuckhuge hole
So because they cant keep proper inventory they will just blow one billion dollar to pieces?
they cant destroy it all if the 37th shoots it all first!
Money well spent.
For those who are asking, they did auction some of this stuff off. There was a thread on /k/ about it.
Someone bought a big trash can worth of .45 brass.
I can't remember the website name, but they had the auctions posted. They where selling all sorts of surplus from vehicles to ammo and surplus office supplies. But it's all in person, and they don't deliver anything.
[QUOTE=Winner;44683247]are they going to burn down all the army surplus stores too
seriously why are they destroying them rather than trying to get some of their money back out of it?[/QUOTE]
Because the military doesn't try to make money, it spends money.
A lot of our economy is currently dependent on military contracts. Most of the stuff made for the military now just ends up in a warehouse never to get used until they run out of space. Tanks, airplanes, ammo, pretty much are made just to be made. A bunch of people working on stuff that will never get used just so the money gets put into the economy.
Its a really shows how pointless and wasteful economy is.
This seems like the makings of a heist.
[QUOTE=Valnar;44683295]Because the military doesn't try to make money, it spends money.
A lot of our economy is currently dependent on military contracts. Most of the stuff made for the military now just ends up in a warehouse never to get used until they run out of space. Tanks, airplanes, ammo, pretty much are made just to be made. A bunch of people working on stuff that will never get used just so the money gets put into the economy.
Its a really shows how pointless and wasteful economy is.[/QUOTE]
well also if the DoD trys selling something without congressional approval they get audited.
the real mans way to destroy ammo
[video=youtube;89JEeeVF6rQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89JEeeVF6rQ[/video]
Call me mad, but I don't think pissing away $1B+ worth of ANYTHING is very intelligent.
What a fucking waste. But it's not like this surprises me anymore.
[QUOTE=JohnFisher89;44683235]Why not sell it to civilians or NATO units.[/QUOTE]
it says the ammo that can be used in military standard weapons are being kept
[QUOTE=Hatley;44683325]Call me mad, but I don't think pissing away $1B+ worth of ANYTHING is very intelligent.[/QUOTE]
One could argue it wasn't really wasted.
That money went to companies, and those companies ended up paying salaries to people and the money kept flowing in that way.
Like I said earlier, that money really wasn't spent because there was a big need for ammo. It was mostly spent to spend money.
Although it would be really just be so much more efficient to have a basic income sort of system instead.
[QUOTE=Valnar;44683369]One could argue it wasn't really wasted.
That money went to companies, and those companies ended up paying salaries to people and the money kept flowing in that way.
Like I said earlier, that money really wasn't spent because there was a big need for ammo. It was mostly spent to spend money.
Although it would be really just be so much more efficient to have a basic income sort of system instead.[/QUOTE]
It's still a waste of resources. Lead and copper doesn't grow on trees. There's the threat of a copper shortage occurring at any time in the future now, and lead isn't exactly renewable either. Not to mention all the chemicals used in making the powder and explosives, some of which aren't cheap or easy to handle.
[QUOTE=Winner;44683247]are they going to burn down all the army surplus stores too
seriously why are they destroying them rather than trying to get some of their money back out of it?[/QUOTE]
You act like the US government knows what it's doing.
[QUOTE=zombini;44683411]It's still a waste of resources. Lead and copper doesn't grow on trees. There's the threat of a copper shortage occurring at any time in the future now, and lead isn't exactly renewable either. Not to mention all the chemicals used in making the powder and explosives, some of which aren't cheap or easy to handle.[/QUOTE]
I very much agree that it is extremely wasteful, which is why I mentioned the part about the basic income which would really cut out the middleman in the process.
The money wasn't really wasted since it kind of gets circulated into the economy, but the time and resources behind it were definitely wasted.
[QUOTE=J!NX;44683308]the real mans way to destroy ammo
[video=youtube;89JEeeVF6rQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89JEeeVF6rQ[/video][/QUOTE]
wondering what the story is behind this
[QUOTE=booster;44683278]Money well spent.[/QUOTE]
does this mean that 1b of tax dollars gets given back?
[QUOTE=Just2Rusty;44683507]does this mean that 1b of tax dollars gets given back?[/QUOTE]
yes, you each get 4 dollars
Burn it all
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