Chelsea Manning to receive military 'gender treatment' - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The US military will begin treatment for US document leaker Chelsea Manning for her gender-identity condition. Defence secretary Chuck Hagel has approved gender treatment for Pte First Class Manning, who was formerly known as Bradley. The move came after the bureau of prisons rejected the Army's request to transfer her from a military facility. She is serving a 35-year sentence for leaking classified files to Wikileaks. Pte Manning has been diagnosed by military doctors with gender dysphoria, the sense of one's gender being at odds with the sex assigned at birth. Following her conviction in July 2013 on 20 charges in connection with the leaks of military and diplomatic documents, Pte Manning requested treatment including hormone therapy, and to be allowed to live as a woman. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-28360034[/url]

I disagree that what she did was good, but I'm glad we're not denying her the right to live as her true self any longer.

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;45426425]I disagree that what she did was good, but I'm glad we're not denying her the right to live as her true self any longer.[/QUOTE] He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] *she [url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/convicted-leaker-bradley-manning-changes-legal-name-to-chelsea-elizabeth-manning/2014/04/23/e2a96546-cb1c-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html]Her name's Chelsea[/url]

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] God save us all, what have you done?

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;45426455]*she [U][url=[/U][url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/convicted-leaker-bradley-manning-changes-legal-name-to-chelsea-elizabeth-manning/2014/04/23/e2a96546-cb1c-11e3-a75e-463587891b57_story.html]Her[/url] name's Chelsea[/url][/QUOTE] Woops my bad. I missread it, clearly. oh wait. [img]http://puu.sh/agxeh/1b637c190b.png[/img] Even his surname accuses him of being a dude. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Stop shitposting" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] stop this before it's too late

[QUOTE=Laserbeams;45426476]stop this before it's too late[/QUOTE] I hope the transgender discussion chatters don't catch wind of this grievous insult.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] What is gender sensitization and why is it relevant to this case.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426465]Woops my bad. I missread it, clearly. oh wait. [img]http://puu.sh/agxeh/1b637c190b.png[/img] Even his surname accuses him of being a dude.[/QUOTE] She wants to live her life as a woman who the fuck are you to say she can't?

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426465][/QUOTE] Dont start this please.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426445]He* His names Brad. A chicken can paint itself black and white and stand around in fields. It doesn't suddenly become a cow.[/QUOTE] There's not even an argument here, you're just objectively wrong and obviously attempting to start shit

[QUOTE=Kyle902;45426548]Dont start this please.[/QUOTE] I don't even know why people have to make that comment like Tom Hutchins in every single thread slightly related to transgenderism

[QUOTE=Asgard;45426557]I don't even know why people have to make that comment like Tom Hutchins in every single thread slightly related to transgenderism[/QUOTE] Because they're afraid of people who aren't cis, so they try and ignore the fact that trans people exist as much as they can. That, or it's out of some smugness, like "HAH, you people think trans people are real!? well [I]I[/i] know the truth."

[QUOTE=Asgard;45426557]I don't even know why people have to make that comment like Tom Hutchins in every single thread slightly related to transgenderism[/QUOTE] They're afraid of learning that the world and its people aren't so black and white as they thought.

-joke could be misinterpreted-

[QUOTE=EvacX;45426540]She wants to live her life as a woman who the fuck are you to say she can't?[/QUOTE] Dunno, a realist? Somebody that accepts that hormones and speaking in a lighter voice don't change you into a woman. They need their own word, like "Shim" or something, because there is no way in hell that's a woman. I wouldn't fuck it. God I'm such a cis scum. Fucking patriarchy.

Can we not just agree that it's a very controversial subject and move on? There's never going to be a point where everyone agrees on this, we're just pissing in a sea of piss at the moment.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426627]Dunno, a realist? Somebody that accepts that hormones and speaking in a lighter voice don't change you into a woman. They need their own word, like "Shim" or something, because there is no way in hell that's a woman. I wouldn't fuck it. God I'm such a cis scum. Fucking patriarchy.[/QUOTE] lol what defines a woman.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;45426635]lol what defines a woman.[/QUOTE] Here's dictionary definitions according to Google: [quote]an adult human female.[/quote] [quote]female ˈfiːmeɪl/Submit adjective adjective: female 1. of or denoting the sex that can bear offspring or produce eggs, distinguished biologically by the production of gametes (ova) which can be fertilized by male gametes. "a herd of female deer" relating to or characteristic of women or female animals. "a female audience" synonyms: feminine, womanly, womanlike, ladylike; More antonyms: male (of a plant or flower) having a pistil but no stamens. (of parts of machinery, fittings, etc.) manufactured hollow so that a corresponding male part can be inserted.[/quote] People are going to disagree with this but I'm past caring honestly. It's going to be a controversial subject for my whole lifetime I reckon.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;45426663].[/QUOTE] So what about sterile women then?

[QUOTE=Kyle902;45426671]So what about sterile women then?[/QUOTE] Ask the person who wrote the dictionary definition

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426627]Dunno, a realist? Somebody that accepts that hormones and speaking in a lighter voice don't change you into a woman. They need their own word, like "Shim" or something, because there is no way in hell that's a woman. I wouldn't fuck it. God I'm such a cis scum. Fucking patriarchy.[/QUOTE] Nah, not cis scum, just retarded.

Good on for them for allowing her to become a woman, not sure what she leaked and how bad it was, but at least she still gets SOME rights. Also it's too late to save this thread.

[QUOTE=Flapadar;45426675]Ask the person who wrote the dictionary definition[/QUOTE] What kind of argument is that? *posts citation* "Thats not right" "Ask the person who wrote dictionary then"

[QUOTE=Flapadar;45426663]Here's dictionary definitions according to Google: People are going to disagree with this but I'm past caring honestly. It's going to be a controversial subject for my whole lifetime I reckon.[/QUOTE] Sex is the package you were born with. Gender is what you identify as. It's good form to address a person according to the gender he or she identifies as. Otherwise you're just not very nice.

-snip misread-

[QUOTE=Kyle902;45426682]What kind of argument is that? *posts citation* "Thats not right" "Ask the person who wrote dictionary then"[/QUOTE] I didn't pretend to be an expert on the dictionary. You asked what defined a woman, so I gave you the dictionary definition of a woman. If you disagree you can always submit a correction to whoever wrote it.

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426627]Dunno, a realist? Somebody that accepts that hormones and speaking in a lighter voice don't change you into a woman. They need their own word, like "Shim" or something, because there is no way in hell that's a woman. I wouldn't fuck it. God I'm such a cis scum. Fucking patriarchy.[/QUOTE] what the fuck am I reading

[QUOTE=Tom Hutchins;45426627]I wouldn't fuck it. [/QUOTE] Fuck it you got me to reply. It's like you're a parody of yourself. Listen to yourself, your entire argument seems to be based on "ew, my penis doesn't like this".