Gtx 1080 and 1070 displayports do not work with Vive
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[url]http://www.tomshardware.com/news/nvidia-vive-displayport-incompatible,32204.html[/url]
[QUOTE] Whether or not Nvidia will remedy the issue with a driver fix remains to be seen, but so far, Nvidia has been quiet about the issue. There is an ongoing thread on the GeForce.com community forum, and several people have chimed in to report the same problem. So far, the only comment from Nvidia in the thread came from Manuel Guzman on June 9, who said: “We are still investigating this issue.” It is nearly a month later we still don’t have a follow-up. There’s a similar thread on Reddit from around the same time warning people of the issue. [/QUOTE]
Hopefully it will be fixed with a new driver
Bad title, the HDMI port works but not the Displayports.
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;50656439]Bad title, the HDMI port works but not the Displayports.[/QUOTE]
Ah, then can a mod fix the title?
[QUOTE=IrishBandit;50656439]Bad title, the HDMI port works but not the Displayports.[/QUOTE]
It's still quite an issue if the card has only one HDMI port (which seems to be the case with the default model) and your monitor requires that already.
I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?
[QUOTE=Tamschi;50656475]It's still quite an issue if the card has only one HDMI port (which seems to be the case with the default model) and your monitor requires that already.[/QUOTE]
Just use an HDMI adapter and don't be a tool
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
any midrange and up monitor produced semi recently will use it
it's an open standard, electrically compatible with DVI-D and HDMI, and has a better physical connector than either DVI or HDMI
it's also more future proof than HDMI is due to its design
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
I use DP with my Dell U2515H
I use DP with my Acer Predator X34.
I quite like it.
[QUOTE=.Lain;50656505]any midrange and up monitor produced semi recently will use it
it's an open standard, electrically compatible with DVI-D and HDMI, and has a better physical connector than either DVI or HDMI
it's also more future proof than HDMI is due to its design[/QUOTE]
I agree it's better but that isn't the point.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656545]I agree it's better but that isn't the point.[/QUOTE]
???
my point is that it costs less to implement, and is easily passively converted to HDMI for anyone that requires HDMI. That directly answers your question.
[quote=Wikipedia]Nearly 70% of LCD monitors sold in August 2014 in the US, UK, Germany, Japan, and China were equipped with HDMI/DisplayPort technology, up 7.5% on the year, according to Digitimes Research.[SU[/quote]
[QUOTE=Tamschi;50656475]It's still quite an issue if the card has only one HDMI port (which seems to be the case with the default model) and your monitor requires that already.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;50656495]Just use an HDMI adapter and don't be a tool[/QUOTE]
tbh anyone who owns a vive already owns a computer and should already easily be able to afford like, 50 different adaptors for every single type of everything that exists
[editline]6th July 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
I have 3 monitors that have a display port in my home
one hdmi port is already a thing that GPU's do anyways. I one have one on mine. the 970 has 2 dvi, 1 hdmi, 1 dp. Replacing DVI with DP only has benefits
Since you can string DP together you could technically use one display port for multiple displays, then just use hdmi adapters
[QUOTE=.Lain;50656596]???
my point is that it costs less to implement, and is easily passively converted to HDMI for anyone that requires HDMI. That directly answers your question.[/QUOTE]
Everyone has a drawer full of HDMI cables. Nobody owns a DP cable. It's just much more convenient to have more HDMI outputs. Non-reference cards almost always change the default reference outputs; for example Sapphpire's new RX 480 opted for 2x HDMI, 2x DP & 1x DVI instead of the reference 3x DP & 1x HDMI. The latter just seems silly in comparison.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656623]Everyone has a drawer full of HDMI cables. Nobody owns a DP cable. It's just much more convenient to have more HDMI outputs. Non-reference cards almost always change the default reference outputs; for example Sapphpire's new RX 480 opted for 2x HDMI, 2x DP & 1x DVI instead of the reference 3x DP & 1x HDMI. The latter just seems silly in comparison.[/QUOTE]
They should buy display port cables then
simple as that tbh. Tech phases out when it becomes inferior. After all, tell me, how many modern things still use VGA?
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
More professional monitors use it, my Dells have it.
[QUOTE=J!NX;50656625]They should buy display port cables then
simple as that tbh. Tech phases out when it becomes inferior. After all, tell me, how many modern things still use VGA?[/QUOTE]
you missed the convenience part of my post
im going to stop posting now because this is barely an issue im just bored
[QUOTE=Scot;50656631]you missed the convenience part of my post
im going to stop posting now because this is barely an issue im just bored[/QUOTE]
well I mean, yeah, buying adapters and a bunch of different cables and all types of crazy shit is wildly inconvenient, so is having a GPU that is slowly ceasing to use other methods of input.
at the same time though we need to push convenience out of the way so that people have better options. You can't use a 4k@60fps on an hdmi, nor string them together, so if anything display port will soon end up being more convenient in time. At the moment, not quite as easy as using HDMI.
HDMI has its limitations etc, so DP is essential for resolutions and hertz on new screens these days.
[QUOTE=Boilrig;50656736]HDMI has its limitations etc, so DP is essential for resolutions and hertz on new screens these days.[/QUOTE]
that plus those limitations are going to get really steep once 4k becomes standard in several years.
HDMI even has had artificial limitations that equivalent spec DVI doesn't. 0/10 DP way better.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
I do and it's a really annoying port. Sometimes it would stop my monitor from getting a signal. This happened if I turned the monitor on too early during boot and it would time out before it got a signal then just not display when it got to desktop. And it's really annoying with 2 different resolution monitors, turn your DP monitor off and all your icons shift to your second monitor and become messy.
I just reverted to HDMI after the first issue just got too annoying to deal with.
[editline]6th July 2016[/editline]
And the clips can be really fiddly to release
[QUOTE=Scot;50656623]Everyone has a drawer full of HDMI cables. Nobody owns a DP cable. It's just much more convenient to have more HDMI outputs. Non-reference cards almost always change the default reference outputs; for example Sapphpire's new RX 480 opted for 2x HDMI, 2x DP & 1x DVI instead of the reference 3x DP & 1x HDMI. The latter just seems silly in comparison.[/QUOTE]
This is such a flawed argument... halt the progress of tech because of convenience and what people have already adopted?? By that logic we never should have move from floppies to cd's, or from ps/2 to usb for peripherals, or from telegraph to telephone. I could list these all day. If you want to use cutting edge tech like the Vive you can buy the proper cables and adapters to get your shit working.
[QUOTE=Socram;50656835]This is such a flawed argument... halt the progress of tech because of convenience and what people have already adopted?? By that logic we never should have move from floppies to cd's, or from ps/2 to usb for peripherals, or from telegraph to telephone. I could list these all day. If you want to use cutting edge tech like the Vive you can buy the proper cables and adapters to get your shit working.[/QUOTE]
Your argument is still flawed, floppies can't be adapted to CDs with literally no electrical change.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656631]you missed the convenience part of my post
im going to stop posting now because this is barely an issue im just bored[/QUOTE]
I don't think he missed the convenience part of your post.
We shouldn't have to hold back on technology for convenience.
We've always had to buy newer cables when a better one came out.
[QUOTE=Socram;50656835]This is such a flawed argument... halt the progress of tech because of convenience and what people have already adopted?? By that logic we never should have move from floppies to cd's, or from ps/2 to usb for peripherals, or from telegraph to telephone. I could list these all day. If you want to use cutting edge tech like the Vive you can buy the proper cables and adapters to get your shit working.[/QUOTE]
his point though isn't about that, its less about not changing tech and more about adapting slower based on how popular something is for the sake of convenience.
which imho is disagreeable. You make the superior tech the convenient one and that's how you fix that problem.
I use DP on my monitors, never had any issue and the monitors came with DP cables which was great
[QUOTE=SEKCobra;50656877]Your argument is still flawed, floppies can't be adapted to CDs with literally no electrical change.[/QUOTE]
Backward/Forward compatibility is still not a reason to stick with old tech.
[QUOTE=Scot;50656491]I know displayport is the future and all that but does anyone actually own a monitor with a DP input? It's been around for years but it still hasn't been widely adopted. Why put three displayports with only one HDMI, the most widely adopted output standard ever?[/QUOTE]
I have and use DisplayPort.
I have for a while now.
[QUOTE=Socram;50656835]This is such a flawed argument... halt the progress of tech because of convenience and what people have already adopted?? By that logic we never should have move from floppies to cd's, or from ps/2 to usb for peripherals, or from telegraph to telephone. I could list these all day. If you want to use cutting edge tech like the Vive you can buy the proper cables and adapters to get your shit working.[/QUOTE]
ok i'll post again
DP isn't so much better than HDMI that it's "halting the progress of tech". HDMI is improving just like DP is; the latest standard supports 4K/60p, the maximum consumers can currently (and for the foreseeable future) get their hands on. All DP really has over HDMI, realistically, is that it's free to implement.
[QUOTE=Scot;50657014]ok i'll post again
DP isn't so much better than HDMI that it's "halting the progress of tech". HDMI is improving just like DP is; the latest standard supports 4K/60p, the maximum consumers can currently (and for the foreseeable future) get their hands on. All DP really has over HDMI, realistically, is that it's free to implement.[/QUOTE]
Free to implement, more flexible in every way besides the port construction itself :v:, daisy chaining, all adaptivesync platforms are DP only, extremely compatible with passive adapters. I'd argue that the DP standard itself is actually more common than HDMI nowadays. Pretty much every laptop, tablet, and smartphone uses it for it's internal display. Thunderbolt and microUSB (slimDP) video output use it.
[editline]6th July 2016[/editline]
Not to mention that dualmode DP is just straight up HDMI capable. Sure, maybe GPU manufacturers should start including a DP to HDMI adapter like they used to for DVI-I to VGA, but DP is just a superior technology and there's no real reason to delay widespread adoption. I have a drawer full of VGA cables still, doesn't mean we shouldn't have moved to DVI/HDMI. They were both capable of the best resolution at a time as well (1080@60).
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