Despite a 21 hour filibuster in the Senate against Obamacare, Tea Party Republican Ted Cruz votes to
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[quote]Washington (CNN) -- He spent more than 21 straight hours railing against any government funding for Obamacare. Then Republican Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas joined the other 99 senators from both parties in voting Wednesday to move ahead on a spending plan expected to do just that.
The rare 100-0 vote on a procedural step means the spending measure that would avoid a partial government shutdown next week now can be amended by Senate Democrats to restore funding for President Barack Obama's signature health care reforms, which had been eliminated last week by House Republicans.
Cruz led a group of tea party conservatives in trying to block Senate consideration of the spending legislation because Democratic Majority Leader Harry Reid made clear his caucus would remove the provision that defunded Obamacare.[/quote]
[url]http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/25/politics/shutdown-showdown/index.html[/url]
Wait what
First he (and a bunch of other pricks) spends 21 hours straight opposing Obamacare, and now they approve funding for it 100-0?
The Senate is pretty interesting, you'd expect them to vote on party lines but it's generally not the case.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;42356459]The Senate is pretty interesting, you'd expect them to vote on party lines but it's generally not the case.[/QUOTE]
Mostly because the Senate deals with things that both parties are most aligned on, like foreign policy while the House deals with funding and finance where Republicans and Democrats disagree about most.
The USA is a strange country
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42356499]Mostly because the Senate deals with things that both parties are most aligned on, like foreign policy while the House deals with funding and finance where Republicans and Democrats disagree about most.[/QUOTE]
But the article in question in the OP regards Obamacare, where both parties unanimously approved a spending bill for it but in the House that would not be the case.
[QUOTE=Antdawg;42356519]But the article in question in the OP regards Obamacare, where both parties unanimously approved a spending bill for it but in the House that would not be the case.[/QUOTE]
What I'm saying is, "Republican" and "Democrat" don't have such a rigid difference in the Senate as it is in the House. They're more...friendly? I guess you can say, for lack of a better word. Even on issues that the parties go their separate ways on.
You'll rarely see a big partisan politics event in the Senate.
Why is this filibustering thing even allowed?
[QUOTE=Mudkipslol;42356632]Why is this filibustering thing even allowed?[/QUOTE]
It's more of a loophole in allowing Senators to give there thoughts on things. Given speeches take a variety of time to say, it wouldn't be great to put a timer on all of them.
Besides, they never really achieve anything other than give the talking Senator some attention.
[QUOTE=Mudkipslol;42356632]Why is this filibustering thing even allowed?[/QUOTE]
A pretty stubborn political system allows it, it'll be hard to stop.
I really liked the Daily Show piece on it.
'You read Green Eggs and Ham, a book about a stubborn jerk who is strongly opposed to something he hasn't tried, but when he does try it goes "Yeah, this is pretty fucking good"'
[QUOTE=Mudkipslol;42356632]Why is this filibustering thing even allowed?[/QUOTE]
Because sometimes there's no other way to convince someone to vote the way you want them to.
Filibusters are usually there to try and "talk" a bill to death, or delay a vote on legislation. That having been said, this wasn't [I]technically[/I] a filibuster because Cruz wasn't trying to delay a vote.
This is the first time I've seen a 100-0 vote on such a controversial issue.
the gop lost the battle and i don't think any rep wanted to be seen as voting for a government shutdown in the end
what the fuck
american politics continues to baffle me
[QUOTE=yawmwen;42357947]the gop lost the battle and i don't think any rep wanted to be seen as voting for a government shutdown in the end[/QUOTE]
it's a pity how childish our government is
might as well slap a giant diaper on the Capitol
[QUOTE=Protocol7;42357964]it's a pity how childish our government is
might as well slap a giant diaper on the Capitol[/QUOTE]
you can't really blame them. people act most childish about things that they are most passionate about.
[QUOTE=DrDevil;42356507]The USA is a strange country[/QUOTE]
I love being able to use this clip
[video=youtube;4FHd5JDhu5A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FHd5JDhu5A[/video]
i will not fund it sam-i-am
but ted cruze will fund it!
The onion was right!
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gtbklPO5v0[/media]
[QUOTE=Mudkipslol;42356632]Why is this filibustering thing even allowed?[/QUOTE]
So that you can get funding for the national boys camp even if people tell lies about you, or at least that's what "Mr.Smith Goes to Washington" says.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWyEc7FAMTg[/media]
I can hear the Twilight Zone theme playing into the distance
It was never a filibuster, it was him raging on why we should get rid of obamacare.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;42358051]I love being able to use this clip
[video=youtube;4FHd5JDhu5A]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FHd5JDhu5A[/video][/QUOTE]
Shepard Smith is one of my favorite journalists.
[QUOTE=BuffaloBill;42356436]Wait what
First he (and a bunch of other pricks) spends 21 hours straight opposing Obamacare, and now they approve funding for it 100-0?[/QUOTE]
He can't make his damn mind up
Wonder how many ties he owns
Highlights of a long ass fillibuster, shitty how you need a 60%(~?) majority to deny someone in the senate, props for his creativity with it though, didn't someone else do a fillibuster with yellow pages once?
[url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYZm3x5GeAY[/url]
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