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[QUOTE]The Chinese government has declared victory in cleaning up what it considers rumors, negativity and unruliness from online discourse, while critics say the moves have suppressed criticism of the government and ruling Communist Party.
Beijing launched the campaign this summer, arresting dozens of people for spreading rumors, creating new penalties for people who post libelous information and calling in the country's top bloggers for talks urging them to guard the national interest and uphold social order. At the same time, government agencies at all levels have boosted their online presence to control the message in cyberspace.
"If we should describe the online environment in the past as good mingling with the bad, the sky of the cyberspace has cleared up now because we have cracked down on online rumors," Ren Xianliang, vice minister of the State Internet Information Office, said during a rare meeting this week with foreign journalists.
A study by an Internet opinion monitoring service under the party-owned People's Daily newspaper showed the number of posts by a sample of 100 opinion leaders declined by nearly 25 percent and were overtaken by posts from government microblog accounts.
"The positive force on the Internet has preliminarily taken back the microphone, and the positive energy has overwhelmed the negative energy to uphold the online justice," said Zhu Huaxin, the monitoring service's general secretary, according to a transcript posted by state media.
Observers say the crackdown has noticeably curtailed speech by suppressing voices and triggering self-censorship, with more liberal online voices being more ginger in their criticism and posting significantly less.
Even Zhu suggested the campaign might have gone too far. In one example, Web users refrained from reposting information and commenting on the government response to a severe flood in the eastern city of Yuyao in early October. A year ago, they were garrulous in questioning Beijing's drainage system when a rainstorm ravaged the city. "It is a reminder that we must strike a balance between crushing online rumors and ensuring information flow," Zhu said.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/china-claims-victory-scrubbing-internet-21055948[/url]
China is so damn backwards. It's ridiculous. At one moment you're reading about the moon mission, which I personally think is damn cool.
And at another moment you read about things like this.
The communist party believes that silencing all dissent, and preventing access to info contradictory to the gov is the best way to achieve the highly sought after "stability" in society
Didn't they at some point straight up censor the charachter for 'freedom' in chinese from browsers? :v:
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43028886]China is so damn backwards. It's ridiculous. At one moment you're reading about the moon mission, which I personally think is damn cool.
And at another moment you read about things like this.[/QUOTE]
More than a few people would say, with some legitimacy, that great things are built on the backs of people who are not allowed to complain.
People will jump and say "that's just like 1984" whenever some bullshit that barely affects their comfortable western lives happens, but this is much more like that novel.
If they did pull it off, it's a huge step towards that future. And how doesn't this constitute a human rights violation?
you missed a spot
[QUOTE=lapsus_;43029008]Didn't they at some point straight up censor the charachter for 'freedom' in chinese from browsers? :v:[/QUOTE]
They did ban reincarnation..
I wonder if TOR works, and is popular there?
i'm imagining it is more like pouring a couple gallons of bleach on the table of the rather thoroughly scrubbing it clean.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43029472]People will jump and say "that's just like 1984" whenever some bullshit that barely affects their comfortable western lives happens, but this is much more like that novel.
If they did pull it off, it's a huge step towards that future. And how doesn't this constitute a human rights violation?[/QUOTE]
do you really think china gives a fuck about human rights
[QUOTE=Rangergxi;43030279]They did ban reincarnation..[/QUOTE]
they also banned marxism, karl marx, lenin. IIRC
so chinese citizens think, that the glorious leader Mao invented communism
[QUOTE=EddieLTU;43033987]they also banned marxism, karl marx, lenin. IIRC
so chinese citizens think, that the glorious leader Mao invented communism[/QUOTE]
To be fair Maoism is a very unorthodox form of communism. Marx and even Lenin probably wouldn't have ever seen them as real communists.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;43028886]China is so damn backwards. It's ridiculous. At one moment you're reading about the moon mission, which I personally think is damn cool.
And at another moment you read about things like this.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the Soviet Union, to be honest.
When 'communist' China falls, it will make the Soviet Union look like nothing.
In Communist China, Internet scrubs the government clean.
I wonder if they did anything about those liaojiao gulags yet after the news they published on closing them down. Probably nothing, but I wouldn't expect anything better.
[QUOTE=Aredbomb;43034321]To be fair Maoism is a very unorthodox form of communism. Marx and even Lenin probably wouldn't have ever seen them as real communists.[/QUOTE]
From my understanding it isn't really all that different (at least the theory aspect of it) from earlier communist theory, it mostly places a greater focus on peasants rather than industry workers as the driving force for revolution. In other words, Marxism-Leninism adapted in order to be more applicable to China.
And by scrub it clean, they mean totally-vaporizing-anything-that-isn't-praising-the-glorious-master-Chinese-communism-race.
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