Lumia 950 and 950XL announced by Microsoft - $549 & $649, Available November - Polidicks

[url]http://wmpoweruser.com/lumia-950-xl-starts-at-649-lumia-950-starts-at-549-available-in-november/[/url] [quote]At its Windows 10 Devices event today, Microsoft announced the new Lumia 950 XL and the new Lumia 950. The devices will be available in November. Microsoft announced that the 950 XL will start at $649, while the Lumia 950 will start at $549. The Lumia 950 XL is Microsoft’s latest Windows Phone flagship which sports a 5.7 inch WQHD (1440×2560) OLED display, a 20MP PureView rear camera with triple-LED flash, a 5MP wide-angle front-facing camera, 32GB of internal storage (with a microSD card slot to expand the storage up to 2TB), and a 3300 mAh removable battery.[/quote] [media]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snEIjWR4lQw[/media] Looks pretty good. Pretty much every feature I could want from a flagship phone - expandable storage, removable battery, great camera, great display, etc.

Lunch with Peter, at "Cafe", well, that's an original name for a cafe. I have a Lumia it's ok except the OS is annoying.

Let's not forget hooking it up to a monitor and KB/M and getting a full desktop running on it.

[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;48843882]Let's not forget hooking it up to a monitor and KB/M and getting a full desktop running on it.[/QUOTE] Really?

Really. They showed that off pretty thoroughly in the presentation today. Guy even reiterated several times "Did I mention you're running a desktop PC experience from your [i]phone?[/i]" Bear in mind, ARM processor means that - like the Windows 8 RT of old - you're running App Store apps only, nothing x86-based. But you've got Windows Explorer and your keyboard and mouse controls fully intact and fortunately, Metro apps include the latest version of Office, full version of which comes standard on phones. And it'll scale up to the desktop version while the phone is in desktop mode, so you're not stuck with the phone interface. The idea is that - for someone like a cubicle jockey - the phone with a dock could potentially be all the computer you need for productivity. You've got full Office, a full browser, and Windows' complete file manager and utilities. Phone itself can even still be used as normal rather than a "docked" screen even when running a desktop doing something else, and you can do stuff like drag applications between the phone interface and desktop. It's pretty much the successful realization of what they were [i]trying[/i] to do with 8.

Up to 2 TB of storage from one microSD(XC) card? Holy digglet... That's some future-proofing right there. The current largest microSDXC card is only 512 GB, and costs $1,000...

I've got a Lumia 1020 which I've had since they came out. It's been a great phone and I'll most likely go for one of these when it's time to renew. I should also mention my 1020 seems to be built like a tank so I hope these are as sturdy.

is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet

Is it even possible to get 2 tb msd cards?

[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;48843882]Let's not forget hooking it up to a monitor and KB/M and getting a full desktop running on it.[/QUOTE] Thats really neat. Im assuming it cant run normal desktop apps though right?

I wonder if the camera will hold up to the Xperia Z5, the Lumia series has had some really good cameras.

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] Depends on what you need, but most likely you're looking at the answer "No".

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] They're actually becoming pretty popular lately, and the people who have them generally really like them. [QUOTE=Cmx;48844212]Thats really neat. Im assuming it cant run normal desktop apps though right?[/QUOTE] Yeah, as I said above. ARM means it works like RT, where it's only App Store stuff and nothing that's x86. Still, App Store is filling out nicely; all of Microsoft's big stuff is already on it and with this "Continuum" concept they're pushing for the App Store, the idea is that one app will transform between a mobile or desktop interface depending on what you use it on. You use PowerPoint on a docked phone, and it'll be like running the desktop version.

[QUOTE=VinLAURiA;48844416]They're actually becoming pretty popular lately, and the people who have them generally really like them. Yeah, as I said above. ARM means it works like RT, where it's only App Store stuff and nothing that's x86. Still, App Store is filling out nicely; all of Microsoft's big stuff is already on it and with this "Continuum" concept they're pushing for the App Store, the idea is that one app will transform between a mobile or desktop interface depending on what you use it on. You use PowerPoint on a docked phone, and it'll be like running the desktop version.[/QUOTE] Yeah but do are app store apps required to run on ARM? If not it's still just a small subset of apps there.

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] no

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] Yes it is OK to use, no the app ecosystem isn't there yet. But it will continue to go nowhere if people don't buy it.

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] Define "app ecosystem shit" because for a lot of people that means "is there snapchat yet"

Also, it's probably worth pointing out that the backs are removable so you can have whatever colours/materials you want.

[QUOTE=paul simon;48844218]I wonder if the camera will hold up to the Xperia Z5, the Lumia series has had some really good cameras.[/QUOTE] Probably not. I mean, I dunno tbh... They had that 40mp cam which IS pretty good, but apparently not as good as the s6, despite being a really good camera. Not saying its all about pixels, but you know... It should be THE cam, imo, but it isn't. I hope its top 10 though. (kinda wish I had the 1020 now... Curse you bad app support!)

[QUOTE=Levelog;48844459]Yeah but do are app store apps required to run on ARM? If not it's still just a small subset of apps there.[/QUOTE] That, I couldn't tell you. I think anything that is eligible for the App Store is already on some sort of abstraction layer that makes it run across architectures - remember that these are what we used to call "Metro" apps and that the whole selling point of Metro was that it ran across platforms through some sort of agnostic environment that you built the apps in with a special language or something. They don't all have that "Continuum" thing where they're optimized to adapt to different interfaces, but I [i]think[/i] anything on the App Store is ARM-compatible. You'll have to double-check, though.

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844195]is it ok to use win phones yet like is the app ecosystem not shit yet[/QUOTE] Kind of average You can usually find an app for 99% of the things you'd want to do on a smartphone. And a lot of things have excellent 3rd party apps, better than anything I've used on other platforms (reddit client for example). But the real issue is that a lot of big developers release apps then ignore them. I.E. waze is perfectly functional but outdated compared to iOS/droid, same with twitter, etc. Certain things are outright missing and the developers refuse to do anything for it while also issuing C&D to 3rd parties that try and fill the gap such as Snapchat. Hopefully with Windows 10 becoming unified and more popular than 8, it'll allow the app ecosystem to match iOS/android. It's important to note that the ecosystem isn't totally dead contrary to popular belief. It's just kind of slow compared to ios/droid. Apps are the downside to windows phone but if the apps you actually use are on the platform then you aren't missing much by sticking to it vs others. Personally for me I like the ecosystem and UX too much to want to switch to android. I'd take one step forward in the app ecosytem, but several steps back in all the other things I like about WP as a platform. [editline]6th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=VinLAURiA;48844532]That, I couldn't tell you. I think anything that is eligible for the App Store is already on some sort of abstraction layer that makes it run across architectures - remember that these are what we used to call "Metro" apps and that the whole selling point of Metro was that it ran across platforms through some sort of agnostic environment that you built the apps in with a special language or something. They don't all have that "Continuum" thing where they're optimized to adapt to different interfaces, but I [i]think[/i] anything on the App Store is ARM-compatible. You'll have to double-check, though.[/QUOTE] I'm almost positive anything in the windows store is ARM compatible. x86 programs in 10 are desktop mode only.

Speakers on the back of the phone lmao EDIT: also mic on the back of the phone quality design right there EDIT: I was just informed that the mic that is on the back of the phone is 1 of 4 mics. Apparently there is actually a mic on the bottom of the front.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;48844488]Define "app ecosystem shit" because for a lot of people that means "is there snapchat yet"[/QUOTE] my daily phone stuff basically consist of reddit, twitter, and using my moto 360

[QUOTE=Wii60;48844778]my daily phone stuff basically consist of reddit, twitter, and using my moto 360[/QUOTE] Apart from the moto 360, there are multiple apps for both of those.

[QUOTE=FlandersNed;48844933]Apart from the moto 360, there are multiple apps for both of those.[/QUOTE] Bought a tablet for about £110 (Onda V975W) - Intel Atom, same panel as iPad air (literally the same physical panel, same wonderful 2048 * 1536 resolution), runs Windows 10. Can plug it into monitor + KB/M and get Windows desktop, can run Crysis on low settings, not sure what is special about this phone in this regard!

Windows phones are good phones. But Microsoft likes to retain too much control to allow App devs to do anything interesting with the phone. My Android can do almost anything a PC can do. Probably more, technically. But a Windows phone is stuck with just bare bones apps. Think of a website created in Dreamweaver vs a website created in drag and drop Geocities. That's about what apps are like on a Windows phone vs Android/iOS

[QUOTE=KorJax;48844679]Kind of average You can usually find an app for 99% of the things you'd want to do on a smartphone. And a lot of things have excellent 3rd party apps, better than anything I've used on other platforms (reddit client for example). But the real issue is that a lot of big developers release apps then ignore them. I.E. waze is perfectly functional but outdated compared to iOS/droid, same with twitter, etc. Certain things are outright missing and the developers refuse to do anything for it while also issuing C&D to 3rd parties that try and fill the gap such as Snapchat. Hopefully with Windows 10 becoming unified and more popular than 8, it'll allow the app ecosystem to match iOS/android.[/QUOTE] Waze was scooped up by Google, so you can expect it to stay right where it is, for a damn long time. Twitter is essencially confirmed to be picked back up in 10 Mobile, since Windows 10 brought about a refreshed Twitter app. And Snapchat has been a real thorn in the WP community's side. The app/company is essencially beelzebub in /r/windowsphone. [editline]6th October 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=TheTalon;48845214]Windows phones are good phones. But Microsoft likes to retain too much control to allow App devs to do anything interesting with the phone. My Android can do almost anything a PC can do. Probably more, technically. But a Windows phone is stuck with just bare bones apps. Think of a website created in Dreamweaver vs a website created in drag and drop Geocities. That's about what apps are like on a Windows phone vs Android/iOS[/QUOTE] It's not Microsoft's fault it's stuck with just bare bones apps. In fact, when Project Astoria and Project Islandwood are up and fully running, Microsoft will have literally handed Windows app development to Android/iOS devs on a silver platter, requiring only minimal effort to port.

[QUOTE=LegndNikko;48846115] It's not Microsoft's fault it's stuck with just bare bones apps. In fact, when Project Astoria and Project Islandwood are up and fully running, Microsoft will have literally handed Windows app development to Android/iOS devs on a silver platter, requiring only minimal effort to port.[/QUOTE] But will they use this effort?

[QUOTE=DoktorAkcel;48848696]But will they use this effort?[/QUOTE] If you're developing apps, you'll probably pick the major ecosystems and stick with them. In this case, it's Android and iOS, I doubt Windows Phone even crosses the mind of the average mobile app developer. Hell even my bank (Nationwide) still won't write a mobile banking app for Windows Phone because it's not popular enough -_-

Using a 920 now and this thing looks sleek as all Hell. That price tag is the only thing deterring me.