• CES: Everything is becoming "smart"
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Wow what a load of shit products.
When do we get smart people?
The Internet of Things doesn't need to happen
CES has turned into an internet of shit expo, sadly.
That cocktail maker sounds ridiculous. I've got a cocktail shaker, why do I need a boozy Keurig?
[QUOTE=woolio1;49481222]That cocktail maker sounds ridiculous. I've got a cocktail shaker, why do I need a boozy Keurig?[/QUOTE] so you can buy their proprietary booze for their proprietary machine.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49482466]so you can buy their proprietary booze for their proprietary machine.[/QUOTE] It takes off-the-shelf liquor, but it has flavor pods for the liqueurs and mixers. Which, to me, sounds like it's going to be producing a crappy imitation, and I could save a lot of money with a trip to the package store, or even the soda aisle of my grocer's.
[QUOTE=woolio1;49482543]It takes off-the-shelf liquor, but it has flavor pods for the liqueurs and mixers. Which, to me, sounds like it's going to be producing a crappy imitation, and I could save a lot of money with a trip to the package store, or even the soda aisle of my grocer's.[/QUOTE] Kind of surprising to see that. But if this hits the consumer market, i would be surprised to see this feature remain. But yeah everything at the CES is pretty much what we all expected. more internet of things, and some fancy gimmicks.
So is smart the new buzzword these days?
[QUOTE=IliekBoxes;49482900]So is smart the new buzzword these days?[/QUOTE] It kind of has been. Every year gets more molested by IOTs and Smart-* devices. All are likely to fail due to their gimmicky features and nature. The downfall to IOTs is their dependence on technology to continue to work and function in order to behave as advertised. The engineered failure rate can now expand past hardware, and introduce software obsolescence. Imagine the day where you have to refresh your appliances because the manufacturer went belly up or put an EoL on the product. The software has problems, and continually makes the appliance fail because of the software glitch, and the manufacturer won't do shit because well, its time to get a new one. Everyone boards this hype train for a internet controlled washing machine, til some security exploit causes it to stay in the spin cycle til the motor blows out. Or exposes you to serious dangers. I personally do not see why EVERYTHING needs to be a smart* device.
i think it'd be common sense to prevent a security issue from being able to cause a disaster
Ah the Internet of Shit, CES is full of it. One of my fav twitter accounts to follow: [url]https://twitter.com/internetofshit[/url] Security is often very weak on those things and with the new "HaLow" standard, that IOT devices probably use soon, I can't wait for hackers to drive around and fuck with your whole house. Besides that are always the general Software problems that could suddenly make your stuff useless or you want to use it but it has to update first.
[QUOTE=ScottyWired;49481189]The Internet of Things doesn't need to happen[/QUOTE] There's no reason for it not to happen however. It's an interesting concept that could provide a lot of convenience in a world that is pretty much focused on that right now. Initial implementations are usually pretty shite for most technologies, remember the first smart phones? No? Well it wasn't the iPhone, it was fucking embarrassing. We wont know the actual implications of the IoT in reality until we get some shit out there and start using it. It's a shame most of the products that are coming out soon are all gimmicky toys. [editline]9th January 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=Mitsuma;49485017]Ah the Internet of Shit, CES is full of it. One of my fav twitter accounts to follow: [url]https://twitter.com/internetofshit[/url] Security is often very weak on those things and with the new "HaLow" standard, that IOT devices probably use soon, I can't wait for hackers to drive around and fuck with your whole house. Besides that are always the general Software problems that could suddenly make your stuff useless or you want to use it but it has to update first.[/QUOTE] IoS is a good fun Twitter account to follow. They've been retweeting CES oddities all afternoon. Most of the security concerns in these devices can be resolved using existing security solutions with ease, but manufacturers want to be the first on the market and want to cut costs. Despite not having to implement security, there is still a cost incurred in adding it in due to the extra development time needed. As soon as these things are getting hacked en-masse, companies will rapidly change their tune about cutting corners there no doubt.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49488949] Most of the security concerns in these devices can be resolved using existing security solutions with ease, but manufacturers want to be the first on the market and want to cut costs. Despite not having to implement security, there is still a cost incurred in adding it in due to the extra development time needed. As soon as these things are getting hacked en-masse, companies will rapidly change their tune about cutting corners there no doubt.[/QUOTE] There is 1 fool proof, sure fire way in preventing all present and future vulnerabilities. Don't put a chip in it.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49490622]There is 1 fool proof, sure fire way in preventing all present and future vulnerabilities. Don't put a chip in it.[/QUOTE] I don't mind things getting smarter, although it can lead to more bugs, but I think the main thing that one shouldn't need to do is to connect things with the internet or even any network.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49490622]There is 1 fool proof, sure fire way in preventing all present and future vulnerabilities. Don't put a chip in it.[/QUOTE] That's boring. I want to see where this tech goes, not hole myself off into some stagnant corner. If it goes.nowhere, then oh well. But don't take "smart rubber ducks" as the only applications of this tech.
[QUOTE=hexpunK;49492296]That's boring. I want to see where this tech goes, not hole myself off into some stagnant corner. If it goes.nowhere, then oh well. But don't take "smart rubber ducks" as the only applications of this tech.[/QUOTE] To be honest, I would be more scared in what will come out of this technology. As I have stated before, this type of technology brings out another mode of failure, and that is software obsolescence. Software and devices will slowly be phased out as outdated tech, and you will have to update them just for them to all communicate together. And this could also hamper the functionality of the appliance. Imagine the day where your refrigerator displays personalized ads by seeing the contents in the appliance. Displays these ads to you and they will subsidize or cover the cost of the appliance. In the short term, people will buy into this. They will be okay with it. One day, you can wake up and your entire house is nothing more than a bunch of billboards and articles about more crap you don't need to buy. Maybe someone will inject malware into these ads and more trouble will come out of it. This may be paranoid thinking, but seeing the trend in devices and advertisement, I don't think this is very far fetched. [editline]11th January 2016[/editline] Besides the aforementioned cons of the potential of this tech, there is a upswing and a bunch of pros. Mostly organizing and making life simpler, but also providing easier troubleshooting when the appliance does go down, or needs something maintenance (Like the CEL, it'll go vastly ignored til the entire thing blows up), or energy efficiency.
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;49506999]Imagine the day where your refrigerator displays personalized ads by seeing the contents in the appliance. Displays these ads to you and they will subsidize or cover the cost of the appliance. In the short term, people will buy into this. They will be okay with it. One day, you can wake up and your entire house is nothing more than a bunch of billboards and articles about more crap you don't need to buy. Maybe someone will inject malware into these ads and more trouble will come out of it. [/QUOTE] I can completely see this happening.
[QUOTE=woolio1;49482543]It takes off-the-shelf liquor, but it has flavor pods for the liqueurs and mixers. Which, to me, sounds like it's going to be producing a crappy imitation, and I could save a lot of money with a trip to the package store, or even the soda aisle of my grocer's.[/QUOTE] Yeah shit, $90 will fill up your bar with essential liquors, mixers, a jigger/pony combo and a good boston shaker (the best shaker for home use IMO). And you'll be set for at least a month.
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