• Salafists begin destroying the last of Timbuktu's historic mausoleums
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[img]http://imgkk.com/i/af-w.jpg[/img] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20833010[/url] [quote=BBC News][B]Islamists in Mali have begun destroying remaining mausoleums in the historic city of Timbuktu, an Islamist leader and a tourism official said.[/B] "Not a single mausoleum will remain in Timbuktu," Abou Dardar, a leader of the Islamist group Ansar Dine, told AFP news agency. Islamists in control of northern Mali began earlier this year to pull down shrines that they consider idolatrous. Tourist official Sane Chirfi said four mausoleums had been razed on Sunday. One resident told AFP that the Islamists were destroying the shrines with pickaxes. Timbuktu was a centre of Islamic learning from the 13th to the 17th centuries. It is a UN World Heritage site with centuries-old shrines to Islamic saints that are revered by Sufi Muslims. The Salafists of Ansar Dine condemn the veneration of saints. "Allah doesn't like it," said Abou Dardar. "We are in the process of smashing all the hidden mausoleums in the area." Islamists seized control of Timbuktu in April, after a coup left Mali's army in disarray. The news that further monuments were being destroyed came one day after Islamists were reported to have cut the hands off two people. The Movement for Oneness and Jihad in West Africa, another Islamist group operating in the area, warned that there would be further amputations, AFP reported. Last Thursday the UN Security Council gave its backing for an African-led military operation to help Mali's government retake the north if no peaceful solution can be found in coming months. A day later, Ansar Dine and the Azawad National Liberation Movement (MNLA), a Tuareg separatist group, said they were committed to finding a negotiated solution.[/quote]
[QUOTE=smurfy;38948971][quote]"Allah doesn't like it," said Abou Dardar.[/quote][/QUOTE] holier than thou
[QUOTE=Joazzz;38949043][QUOTE=smurfy;38948971][quote]"Allah doesn't like it," said Abou Dardar.holier than thou[/QUOTE] Hey nice quote Wait what On topic, it's kinda sad how those buildings survived through so much only to be destroyed by bunch of idiots.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38949048]On topic, it's kinda sad how those buildings survived through so much only to be destroyed by bunch of idiots.[/QUOTE] It's a travesty. I don't generally support foreign wars, but protecting ancient historical, cultural, or religious sites from wanton destruction seems like as good a reason as any for it. Pity they'll never face real justice for it.
[QUOTE=Spirit_Breaker;38949048] Hey nice quote Wait what[/QUOTE]too slow, lose some weight
[QUOTE=Sixer;38949250]It's a travesty. I don't generally support foreign wars, but protecting ancient historical, cultural, or religious sites from wanton destruction seems like as good a reason as any for it. Pity they'll never face real justice for it.[/QUOTE] ECOWAS is going to intervene if negotiations don't work, but that will be months away
[QUOTE=smurfy;38948971]"Allah doesn't like it," said Abou Dardar. "We are in the process of smashing all the hidden mausoleums in the area."[/quote] How DOES Allah not like it? Are you suggesting you are Allah's direct link to earth?
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38949504]Are you suggesting you are Allah's direct link to earth?[/QUOTE]of course, because he's 100% pure, without sin, and he's above everyone else because he's the most pious and (self-)righteous motherfucker around. he's putting himself on the pedestal to drive his own personal agendas, like most of these people do if they're not actually, really and totally crazy. blasphemy? hell yes but no-one ever has the brains to bring that up
[I]Allah doesn't like it. Rock the casbah, rock the casbah.[/I] :dance: Also seems silly to tear down parts of history.
Fucking simple-minded idiots.
[QUOTE=smurfy;38949345]ECOWAS is going to intervene if negotiations don't work, but that will be months away[/QUOTE] That would be nice, but... I wouldn't count on Nigeria to do anything. Those countries have enough of their own shit to sort out, let alone the shit of others.
[QUOTE=Sixer;38950527]That would be nice, but... I wouldn't count on Nigeria to do anything. Those countries have enough of their own shit to sort out, let alone the shit of others.[/QUOTE] The UN Security Council [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20801094]has approved and authorised the plan[/url] so there must be something to it
[QUOTE=Zambies!;38949504]How DOES Allah not like it? Are you suggesting you are Allah's direct link to earth?[/QUOTE] it's idolatrous. [31:13] Recall that Luqmaan said to his son, as he enlightened him, "O my son, do not set up any idols beside GOD; idolatry is a gross injustice." these mausoleums often have depictions of deities besides the one god of islam. many islamists feel that keeping them up is idolatrous. there is religious/historical precedent for the removal or destruction of idols already in islam as well Narrated Ibn Abbas: When Allah's Apostle arrived in Mecca, he refused to enter the Ka'ba while there were idols in it. So he ordered that they be taken out. The pictures of the (Prophets) Ibrahim and Ishmael, holding arrows of divination in their hands, were carried out. The Prophet said, "May Allah ruin them (i.e. the infidels) for they knew very well that they (i.e. Ibrahim and Ishmael) never drew lots by these (divination arrows). Then the Prophet entered the Ka'ba and said. "Allahu Akbar" in all its directions and came out and not offer any prayer therein. -Book 59, Hadith 584
Too bad they didn't go left at at Albuquerque.
Ignorant fucking stools. Humans really are the worst cunts ever.
Islamists just keep being idiots, fucking hell can't they just take a breath for a moment.
There has been systematic demolition of such "[I]Islamic[/I]" saint houses in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Algeria etc (saint worship is opposed by orthodox muslims) .. wherever the revolution or change is taking place. UN calls some out and ignores the others. Basically its just politics playing out. They dont really care about sites or such. Eg: [URL="http://www.arabnews.com/node/217553"] If the US's BFF decides to destroy a historic ottoman fort, no one cares, [/URL] also the 16th century mosque in india razed by hindus +25 similar saint houses in 1992 The reason Mali's getting so much attention is because they have openly affiliated themselves with AQ (? - not sure if they did or the west wants the world to believe that).
[QUOTE=C47;38952511]There has been systematic demolition of such "[I]Islamic[/I]" saint houses in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Algeria etc (saint worship is opposed by orthodox muslims) .. wherever the revolution or change is taking place. UN calls some out and ignores the others. Basically its just politics playing out. They dont really care about sites or such. Eg: [URL="http://www.arabnews.com/node/217553"] If the US's BFF decides to destroy a historic ottoman fort, no one cares, [/URL] also the 16th century mosque in india razed by hindus +25 similar saint houses in 1992 The reason Mali's getting so much attention is because they have openly affiliated themselves with AQ (? - not sure if they did or the west wants the world to believe that).[/QUOTE] that's quite sad that any fundamentalist would want to destroy a piece of history like that. it's also incredibly sad if what you're saying is true; that we are ignoring these acts unless it's convenient not to.
BAN IDIOTS FROM EXISTANCE 2012-2013 :suicide:
[QUOTE=C47;38952511]There has been systematic demolition of such "[I]Islamic[/I]" saint houses in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Algeria etc (saint worship is opposed by orthodox muslims) .. wherever the revolution or change is taking place. UN calls some out and ignores the others. Basically its just politics playing out. They dont really care about sites or such. Eg: [URL="http://www.arabnews.com/node/217553"] If the US's BFF decides to destroy a historic ottoman fort, no one cares, [/URL] also the 16th century mosque in india razed by hindus +25 similar saint houses in 1992 The reason Mali's getting so much attention is because they have openly affiliated themselves with AQ (? - not sure if they did or the west wants the world to believe that).[/QUOTE] Here's the thing, and this is going to sound cynical, but it's absolutely pivotal to modern geopolitics> You fight the battles you have a chance of winning.
It's like the roman rebellion all over again "WE GUN DESTROY DEES BEEG LIBRARY THINGIES NOW CUZ GAWD NO WANT IT"
[QUOTE=C47;38952511]There has been systematic demolition of such "[I]Islamic[/I]" saint houses in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Tunisia, Algeria etc (saint worship is opposed by orthodox muslims) .. wherever the revolution or change is taking place. UN calls some out and ignores the others. Basically its just politics playing out. They dont really care about sites or such. Eg: [URL="http://www.arabnews.com/node/217553"] If the US's BFF decides to destroy a historic ottoman fort, no one cares, [/URL] also the 16th century mosque in india razed by hindus +25 similar saint houses in 1992 The reason Mali's getting so much attention is because they have openly affiliated themselves with AQ (? - not sure if they did or the west wants the world to believe that).[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=C47;38952511]systematic demolition[/QUOTE] I'm not aware of anywhere other than northern Mali where there could be said to be a 'systematic demolition' of shrines/mosques/mausoleums etc. For example in Tunisia, Salafists [url=http://news.yahoo.com/tunisia-attackers-set-fire-muslim-saint-shrine-174125155.html]set fire to a 500-year-old Sufi shrine[/url] in October. In December, [url=http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5j3Zzg_LYeeDT2FqhNGvNghgCzvCg?docId=CNG.113833c5c9da2422db60277fee76ba3a.41]the security forces arrested them[/url]. Doesn't look systematic to me. In Libya, [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19380083]a Sufi shrine was destroyed in August[/url] by Salafists. The attack's success was widely viewed as a disgrace and led to the [url=http://www.aljazeera.com/video/africa/2012/08/201282665348545366.html]interior minister resigning[/url], and the Supreme Security Committee's failure to intervene contributed to that entire force being disbanded (which is an ongoing process). In September, when Salafists tried to destroy another shrine, [url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-19522215]local residents took up arms to defend it[/url] and the security forces had to break the clashes up. Doesn't look systematic to me. There have been Salafist attacks in the region, but only in northern Mali are the Salafists running the place, and therefore there is no one to stop them. That's why the UN is taking action in Mali. If someone was raped somewhere in the world, and the government arrested the rapist and put them on trial, you wouldn't condemn the government for a systematic campaign of rape. If the government said it was going to rape people because Allah wanted them to, that would be different.
Wow these mindless cunts are just destroying history without second thought.
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