• German man who called friends concerned about NSA's operations to join him in a walk around a US arm
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[QUOTE]Daniel Bangert, 28, told The Local he had joked about US spies reading what he had written - and had even told his friends he was waiting for a knock on the door - when it actually came. "I was still very sleepy when the phone rang - it was 7.17 in the morning - and a police officer started asking questions about what I was planning," he said. "Then the doorbell rang and I saw out the window that a police van was parked outside. The officer on the phone said I should open the door to the others." He put on a "Team Edward" T-shirt with a picture of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, and answered scores of questions about his plans. Bangert, a veteran of the Blockupy protests in Frankfurt, had set up a group calling itself "NSA spy protection league" (NSA Spion Schutzbund), as if the US spies were an endangered species of birds. He wanted, he said, to take a walk with some friends to "observe them in their natural habitat" - the Dagger Complex in Griesheim near Darmstadt. This is one base where the NSA (US National Security Agency) is said to operate from. The authority stands accused of monitoring much of Germany's internet traffic. The uniformed police seemed satisfied with his answers about the expected number of people on the walk - 32 had shown an interest, Bangert told The Local. But despite there being no specific agenda, and no plans for a rally or speeches, he was told he had to register the event. "I asked them why, but they could not really explain it to me. They couldn't help me understand what the difference was between going for a walk and meeting up to play football - which you don't have to register," he said. A few hours later, his phone rang again, and one of the police officers who had been at his house that morning, told him the state security wanted to talk with him. "She said I should call them, that it was important that I did. So I did, and they asked me again about the Facebook entry, and how many people were expected and so on. Then they asked if I would go to see them or if they could come to see me for a personal conversation." He said a state security agent arrived with a local police officer, and asked him a load of questions about his political activities and his opinions, and whether he had any connection to activists willing to use violence. They suggested his Facebook entry could be interpreted in different ways, but he said he was really just organizing a walk. "Then they told me I should not put the meeting on the internet, that I should not write about it," he added. They seemed to be concerned that the walk could get out of control if lots of people showed up - like the Facebook parties which are hijacked by hoodlums. "But I was not offering anything for free like at the parties," he said. "And in any case, all there is, is a fence, with nothing behind it - everything is underground. No-one is interested." In the end around 80 people showed up on Saturday to take a walk, have a talk and look at the US base. [/QUOTE] [url]http://www.thelocal.de/national/20130715-50859.html[/url]
Party like it's 1939
What the fuck? This is becoming very concerning.
i'm having a hard time finding this funny
It is really becoming more and more unsettling.
Get out while you still can.
They almost fucking detained him and they interrogated him over organizing a walk.
this is pretty spooky, how much freedom will we lose for the sake of security?
[QUOTE=Mike Tyson;41471644]this is pretty spooky, how much freedom will we lose for the sake of security?[/QUOTE] It's not even us. It's a fucking German citizen in GERMANY that's being questioned by the USA
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41471682]It's not even us. It's a fucking German citizen in GERMANY that's being questioned by the USA[/QUOTE] how long until this happens in Scandinavia/Northern Europe
I had to deal with this shit like this years ago due to being part of the Palestinian solidarity movement. Police "community contact groups" and shit that basically spy on Mosques and right/left wing protesters. I eventually removed my facebook because I was sick of the police being so interested in everyones feeds. I still haven't used it in ages because I was paranoid about it then, and even more so now. Luckily a lot of people I know are getting sick of social media. A couple of years ago people would check it every 10 minutes. I probably won't bother with it again until not using facebook officially makes you a terrorist.
[QUOTE=SeamanStains;41471851]I probably won't bother with it again until not using facebook officially makes you a terrorist.[/QUOTE] Or a school shooter
[QUOTE]He put on a "Team Edward" T-shirt with a picture of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, and answered scores of questions about his plans. [/QUOTE]
I keep thinking there's a place you can go to avoid stuff like this, but then this happens. Too bad the US owns the moon and Mars, so fuck it I'm going to Venus!
[quote] He put on a "Team Edward" T-shirt with a picture of NSA whistle-blower Edward Snowden, and answered scores of questions about his plans. [/quote] Ahahaha, awesome. In the US he would have mysteriously resisted arrest and been beaten, maced, and tazed for that.
[QUOTE=The golden;41471766]The US pretty much runs the western world now, it seems.[/QUOTE] old men running the world a new age
The US government getting in everyone's business is really fucking pissing me off. When are people gonna be fed up with American imperialism?
[quote]Bangert, a veteran of the Blockupy protests in Frankfurt, had set up a group calling itself "NSA spy protection league" (NSA Spion Schutzbund), as if the US spies were an endangered species of birds. [/quote] Thats how you get noticed. [quote]He said a state security agent arrived with a local police officer, and asked him a load of questions about his political activities and his opinions, and whether he had any connection to activists willing to use violence. They suggested his Facebook entry could be interpreted in different ways, but he said he was really just organizing a walk. [/quote] German state police and local are talking to him, not the US
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;41472318]The US government getting in everyone's business is really fucking pissing me off. When are people gonna be fed up with American imperialism?[/QUOTE] Dont you fucking compare a spy case/diplo espionage to the mass murder of millions
[QUOTE=Zambies!;41472404]Dont you fucking compare a spy case/diplo espionage to the mass murder of millions[/QUOTE] I really feel like an asshole for quoting the definition of imperialism here, but I feel it needs to be done. [quote]Search Results im·pe·ri·al·ism /imˈpi(ə)rēəˌlizəm/ Noun A policy of extending a country's power and influence through diplomacy or military force.[/quote] The US govt is theoretically extending their power & influence into other countries, they are, for no reason whatsoever, putting spies and places like the Dagger Complex on foreign soil. It's ridiculous and could infringe on the rights of others, such as Mr. Bangert. If you'd like to tell me how what I'm saying is wrong, please do so. I'd like to hear your opinion.
[QUOTE=AmericanInfantry;41472318]The US government getting in everyone's business is really fucking pissing me off. When are people gonna be fed up with American imperialism?[/QUOTE] Nothing lasts forever.
[QUOTE=Orkel;41472612]Nothing lasts forever.[/QUOTE] I sure hope so.
It's almost like the U.S. Government is a big evil entity running the civilized wo- oh they are basically, just doing a borderline shit-tier job at it.
[QUOTE=Quark:;41472726]It's almost like the U.S. Government is a big evil entity running the civilized wo- oh they are basically, just doing a borderline shit-tier job at it.[/QUOTE]well, it could always be worse: a big evil entity running the civilized world and NOT doing a shit-tier job at it
We're all living in America, America is wunderbar.
Glad he wasn't here. Otherwise I can just imagine what the headlines would be.
thanks obama
[QUOTE=UnrealDiego;41472901]We're all living in America, America is wunderbar.[/QUOTE] [video=youtube;BxroiTRg7Tg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg[/video] They really should be given more credit for this.
[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41473399][video=youtube;BxroiTRg7Tg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxroiTRg7Tg[/video][/QUOTE] I don't think this song has ever been as relevant as it is now. It's like they knew.
The rest of the world doesn't need obama care because anything is better than american healthcare.
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