Donetsk People's Republic and Lugansk People's Republic officially combine into the Federal State of - Polidicks

[quote]The self-proclaimed Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics have merged in one state. The Donetsk People’s Republic’s twitter reports that the two republics have signed their merger in one state, Novorossiya. On the part of the Donetsk Republic, the document was signed by Prime Minister Alexander Borodai and on the part of the Lugansk Republic, by head of the republic Aleksey Karyakin, the microblog reports. ... The second condition is immediate withdrawal of troops from the territories of the people’s republics and immediate ceasefire, Pavel Gubarev said.[/quote] [url=http://voiceofrussia.com/news/2014_05_24/Donetsk-Lugansk-Peoples-Republics-unite-in-Novorossiya-1012/]Voice of Russia[/url] [img]http://dnr-news.com/uploads/posts/2014-05/1401508960_unn0gqhcimu.jpg[/img]

Isn't the Ukrainian offensive going moderately well? With Russia's [url=http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-05-30/russia-withdraws-most-of-forces-from-ukraine-border-u-s-.html]partial border withdrawal[/url] and apparent refusal to annex them, it seems like it's just a matter of time for the separatists. Maybe.

Anyone got a map so I can have an idea on what the fuck is going on over there?

Glory to Novorossiya

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[QUOTE=OvB;44965207]Anyone got a map so I can have an idea on what the fuck is going on over there?[/QUOTE] [thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8f/Map_of_Novorossiya.png/713px-Map_of_Novorossiya.png[/thumb] Claimed territory. [thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Federal_State_of_New_Russia.svg/454px-Federal_State_of_New_Russia.svg.png[/thumb] Red is area actually controlled. Orange is area with attempted control. EDIT: [thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Claimed_New_Russia.png/800px-Claimed_New_Russia.png[/thumb] Dark red: Claimed territory under significant control. Red: Desired territory. Blue: Russian-controlled Crimea

Even then it's fairly loosely controlled. Ukraine is being really gentle and restrained.

Huh, I've heard of the hammer and sickle before, but hammer and anchor is new to me.

Imagine having to sew that fucking flag holy shit

[QUOTE=Lonestriper;44965290]Imagine having to sew that fucking flag holy shit[/QUOTE] [thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Flag_of_Novorussia_%28project%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_Novorussia_%28project%29.svg.png[/thumb] This is the official flag. The flag in the OP just has the coat of arms over it.

I know it was mentioned in another thread, but: [img]http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0420/8858490.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;44965345]I know it was mentioned in another thread, but: [img]http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0420/8858490.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] Because a picture was necessary for us to recognize that it is similar to the Confederate flag..

[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;44965345]I know it was mentioned in another thread, but: [img]http://images.ibsys.com/2006/0420/8858490.jpg[/img][/QUOTE] There are only so many combinations of red, white and blue you can make.

Unless a central government is formed, would that not be a confederate state? The flag seems to imply at the whole confederacy thing anyways. [editline]1st June 2014[/editline] I wonder what Russians will think of being 'Old Russia' haha

[QUOTE=Antdawg;44965367]Unless a central government is formed, would that not be a confederate state? The flag seems to imply at the whole confederacy thing anyways.[/QUOTE] They are a confederal republic, so yes..a confederacy/confederation.

[QUOTE=PolarEventide;44965372]They are a confederal republic, so yes..a confederacy.[/QUOTE] Just that OP said Federal in the title, so that was a bit confusing.

[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;44965360]There are only so many combinations of red, white and blue you can make.[/QUOTE] [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Original_United_Nations.jpg[/img] and most of them don't have a St. Andrew's Cross

[QUOTE=ironman17;44965273]Huh, I've heard of the hammer and sickle before, but hammer and anchor is new to me.[/QUOTE] There are all sorts of variants of the Hammer and Sickle, typically to reflect local industry. East Germany, for example, used a pair of compasses instead of a sickle. The 'independent' [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_Eastern_Republic]Far Eastern Republic[/url] of the 1920s used an anchor. Gear segments are also popular, to represent further industrialisation.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;44965375]Just that OP said Federal in the title, so that was a bit confusing.[/QUOTE] That's the official name, but it is a confederacy of the two states entering into a federal arrangement.

[QUOTE=PolarEventide;44965301][thumb]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fd/Flag_of_Novorussia_%28project%29.svg/800px-Flag_of_Novorussia_%28project%29.svg.png[/thumb] This is the official flag. The flag in the OP just has the coat of arms over it.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKMTu1GDi_w[/media]

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];44965405']That's the official name, but it is a confederacy of the two states entering into a federal arrangement.[/QUOTE] That makes no sense, unless you're implying the two states were already in a confederacy before this new state was formed and are now authorising powers to a central government.

[QUOTE=Antdawg;44965434]That makes no sense, unless you're implying the two states were already in a confederacy before this new state was formed and are now authorising powers to a central government.[/QUOTE] That is what I am implying.

[QUOTE=MoonlessNight;44965360]There are only so many combinations of red, white and blue you can make.[/QUOTE] All things considered it would make a lot more sense if they just dropped the pretense and went with [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f3/Flag_of_Russia.svg[/t] It's pretty obvious that's their end goal.

I doubt any sort of moderately creditable global institution in the West will actually recognize their legitimacy of sovereignty.

Saying you are a state does not make it so. :eng101:

[QUOTE='[Seed Eater];44965396'][img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/79/Original_United_Nations.jpg[/img] and most of them don't have a St. Andrew's Cross[/QUOTE] Fucking Belgium. Who do they think they are with their black and yellow. Completely out of place.

[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;44965901]Fucking Belgium. Who do they think they are with their black and yellow. Completely out of place.[/QUOTE] And look at them next to Russia, with those colors, I bet they're in cahoots those damn commies.

The east will rise again!

I hope they die.

It must suck to be a Geographer these days.