Snowden's father says FBI trying to persuade him to fly to Moscow to be a emotional tool for FBI - Polidicks

[QUOTE]The father of the whistleblower Edward Snowden has said the FBI tried to persuade him to fly to Moscow so that he could encourage his son to return to the United States. "I said: 'I want to be able to speak with my son … Can you set up communications?' and it was 'Well, we are not sure,'" Lon Snowden told the Washington Post. "I said: 'Wait a minute, folks, I'm not going to sit on the tarmac to be an emotional tool for you.'" Snowden's father, who is retired from the US Coast Guard, also said he preferred Edward to remain in Russia, where he is stuck in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport while Russia considers his request for temporary asylum. "If he comes back to the United States, he is going to be treated horribly. He is going to be thrown into a hole. He is not going to be allowed to speak." The 52-year-old said he had been as "surprised as the rest of America" when his son, who worked for a contractor, was revealed as the source of the leaks about surveillance by the National Security Agency to the Guardian. "As a father it pains me what he did," Snowden said. "I wish my son could simply have sat in Hawaii and taken the big paycheck, lived with his beautiful girlfriend and enjoyed paradise. But as an American citizen, I am absolutely thankful for what he did." Lon Snowden said that two days after Edward was revealed as the whistleblower, FBI agents had arrived at his home outside Allentown, Pennsylvania. He had spoken to them for four hours and shared emails he had exchanged with his son. Later the FBI asked him to fly to Moscow. FBI officials declined to comment on why negotiations about the idea foundered, the Post said. As to why Lon Snowden had not flown to Moscow himself, he said: "Sure, I could get on a flight tomorrow to Russia. I'm not sure if I could get access to Edward." He said he had communicated with his son through intermediaries. In an interview with the state-owned Rossiya 24 TV, the older Snowden, his words translated into Russian, said he had yet to decline the idea of travelling to Moscow at the FBI's request, but would first like to know what the agency wanted him to do. "If [Edward] wants to spend the rest of his life in Russia, I would agree. I am not against it. If I were in his place, I would stay in Russia, and I hope Russia will accept him."[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/31/edward-snowden-father-fbi-moscow[/url]

Unsurprising.

[QUOTE=laserguided;41663331] "As a father it pains me what he did," Snowden said. "I wish my son could simply have sat in Hawaii and taken the big paycheck, lived with his beautiful girlfriend and enjoyed paradise. But as an American citizen, I am absolutely thankful for what he did."[/QUOTE] Like father, like son. Good man.

Surely they must have thought he'd never ACTUALLY do such a thing?

[quote] Snowden's father, who is retired from the US Coast Guard, also said he preferred Edward to remain in Russia, where he is stuck in the transit zone of Moscow's Sheremetyevo airport while Russia considers his request for temporary asylum. [/quote] Contrast from what he said [URL="http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22952011"]here[/URL]: [quote]"I have faith in our justice system: I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have."[/quote] Unsurprisingly that was an interview done at Fox.

[quote]"I have faith in our justice system: I would rather my son be a prisoner in the US than a free man in a country that [does] not have the kind of freedoms that we have."[/quote] [quote]"If he comes back to the United States, he is going to be treated horribly. He is going to be thrown into a hole. He is not going to be allowed to speak."[/quote] That's a pretty big 180, clearly there's something more going on.

I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is doing it to kill him with FOXDIE

[QUOTE=Teddybeer;41664972]Wasn't he like come back to the US please first?[/QUOTE] Pretty sure he was being told to say that.

What was that someone recently said about the FBI not being too bad?

Wonder what will happen if he refuses.

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;41665046]What was that someone recently said about the FBI not being too bad?[/QUOTE] To nip this in the bud, the reality is that there is good people and bad people everywhere especially in power. There are those in the FBI who are corrupt and those who give everything to make people safer. Do not make this a black and white debate, because it is entirely pointless and completely ignorant.

[QUOTE=Dr.C;41664952]I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is doing it to kill him with FOXDIE[/QUOTE] Don't joke.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;41665099]To nip this in the bud, the reality is that there is good people and bad people everywhere especially in power. There are those in the FBI who are corrupt and those who give everything to make people safer. Do not make this a black and white debate, because it is entirely pointless and completely ignorant.[/QUOTE] I'm not, merely pointing out FP's tendency to think "oh they did something nice, maybe they're getting better!"

[QUOTE=Dr.C;41664952]I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is doing it to kill him with FOXDIE[/QUOTE] foxdie killed liquid ocelot it is no laughing matter, please dont joke about that

[QUOTE=DeeCeeTeeBee;41665249]foxdie killed liquid ocelot it is no laughing matter, please dont joke about that[/QUOTE] Like you even KNOW

[QUOTE=catbarf;41664903]That's a pretty big 180, clearly there's something more going on.[/QUOTE] I had a gut feeling this was happened in the previous article, and I believe you called me a conspiracy theorist for thinking that this was happening.

[QUOTE=doommarine23;41665099]To nip this in the bud, the reality is that there is good people and bad people everywhere especially in power. There are those in the FBI who are corrupt and those who give everything to make people safer. Do not make this a black and white debate, because it is entirely pointless and completely ignorant.[/QUOTE] Most serious issues and institutions possess the same grey area. I.E. There's historical information that Americans moving into Europe would rape or terrorize German women. And some American soldiers in the Pacific would bludgeon or mutilate Japanese corpses and carry Japanese soldiers' body parts as souvenirs (one soldier even sent Japanese body parts to a horrified and appalled FDR). Does this mean that the US Army in WEII was inherently full of psychopathic, racist rapists? Nope. But it does mean there were awful, violent people acting within the army - and an institutional problem where war crimes and racism were clearly a problem among soldiers.

FBI just needs to go hardline on Snowden, take the father Hostage. Quit pretending to be the nice guy and just show everybody what they already know about the government.

[QUOTE=JgcxCub;41665046]What was that someone recently said about the FBI not being too bad?[/QUOTE] The FBI is one of the greatest investigative agencies in the world. They operate underneath the law like any other though, and Snowden is a wanted man on the federal level. They are trained to gain any leverage they can to catch who they need to, this kind of shit is standard fare. The only fault was that they didn't account for his dad supporting his son's choices even when threatened with charges of treason (which were eventually dropped, yes, but they were very real threats early on).

"Hey son, come back home so you can be sent to jail for 136 years just like bradley manning."

[QUOTE=Agoat;41665552]Like you even KNOW[/QUOTE] KENNETH BAKER WAS MY FATHER

[QUOTE=Dr.C;41664952]I wouldn't be surprised if the FBI is doing it to kill him with SNOWDIE[/QUOTE] Fixed

[QUOTE=Agoat;41665552]Like you even KNOW[/QUOTE] FOX... [editline]1st August 2013[/editline] Hey look its an MGS avatar party. [editline]1st August 2013[/editline] Shit man I survived for 14 minutes while FOXDIE was having a party in me that stuff is nothing.