I've posted about this on other threads maybe 3 times but I still can't solve it with any of the advice I've gotten so I'm making a thread in hopes of getting further advice on this.
Basically I've got a PC that is crashing due to overheating on its components during games. Below are the specs:
[img]https://i.imgur.com/KgmCDnU.png[/img]
The case is a CoolerMaster HAF 912. It has a big front fan and a small one on the side, and I believe it's taking in air from the front and blowing it out the side. Also a cpu cooler. There's room for more fans up top but no more fan connectors on my MB.
Usually any 3D game will make CPU and GPU climb to 60+ and 70+ degrees Celsius respectively and then crash my PC.
Things I've tried include replacing the graphics card (originally only it was overheating and I thought it might be faulty), thorough dusting, cleaning fans and replacing thermal paste on CPU and GPU. Also tried to up the fan speed on the BIOS. Nothing made the slightest difference.
I was considering getting additional fans for the top section (though I'm not sure how to go about it since there are no more connectors on my MB) but was told this was probably not gonna help. I'm not sure what else to do. Anyone have any ideas?
those temps arent too bad, what kind of crashes are you getting? bluescreens? just powers off suddenly? depending on the age of your PSU that might be the issue. BIOS updates also might help with instability, but i've had PSU's fail after only a few years, i'd look into that first. Your components will generally thermal throttle before giving up and shutting down to save themselves, but your cpu and gpu should definitely be able to operate above those ranges, easily into the 80's or 90's.
60+ and 70+ isn't too bad. check that your power supply isnt putting out wonky voltages
[QUOTE=butre;52778450]60+ and 70+ isn't too bad. check that your power supply isnt putting out wonky voltages[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AJ10017;52778329]those temps arent too bad, what kind of crashes are you getting? bluescreens? just powers off suddenly? depending on the age of your PSU that might be the issue. BIOS updates also might help with instability, but i've had PSU's fail after only a few years, i'd look into that first. Your components will generally thermal throttle before giving up and shutting down to save themselves, but your cpu and gpu should definitely be able to operate above those ranges, easily into the 80's or 90's.[/QUOTE]
Really? The error I get is a American Megatrends error mentioning power surge. At first I thought a legit power surge happened but now I realise it just happens every time I run a game for longer than 15 minutes. I haven't considered it could be a PSU thing, but the PSU is one of the oldest components in the PC, it's a Corsair TX850 I got ages ago.
I'm not sure how to check its output, but I'd be willing to replace it if anyone has any suggestions for a good replacement.
[editline]15th October 2017[/editline]
Should I disable surge protection and see if anything happens when running a game? Or is this a bad idea?
[QUOTE=meek;52780701]Really? The error I get is a American Megatrends error mentioning power surge. At first I thought a legit power surge happened but now I realise it just happens every time I run a game for longer than 15 minutes. I haven't considered it could be a PSU thing, but the PSU is one of the oldest components in the PC, it's a Corsair TX850 I got ages ago.
I'm not sure how to check its output, but I'd be willing to replace it if anyone has any suggestions for a good replacement.
[editline]15th October 2017[/editline]
Should I disable surge protection and see if anything happens when running a game? Or is this a bad idea?[/QUOTE]
Absolutely not. Buy a new PSU and junk the old one as soon as you can. If you stress a shitty power supply you are playing with fire (sometimes literally)
[QUOTE=meek;52780701]Really? The error I get is a American Megatrends error mentioning power surge. At first I thought a legit power surge happened but now I realise it just happens every time I run a game for longer than 15 minutes. I haven't considered it could be a PSU thing, but the PSU is one of the oldest components in the PC, it's a Corsair TX850 I got ages ago.
I'm not sure how to check its output, but I'd be willing to replace it if anyone has any suggestions for a good replacement.
[editline]15th October 2017[/editline]
Should I disable surge protection and see if anything happens when running a game? Or is this a bad idea?[/QUOTE]
if you've got a multimeter, checking the output is as easy as probing the leads. if not, then unless your bios has a voltage meter function then your best bet is to try a known good unit.
disabling surge protection may work temporarily but it may also burn your house down. it's guaranteed to fry the rest of your components eventually. have a fire extinguisher at the ready if you do it, and unplug it whenever you leave it unattended.
pretty much any name-brand power supply is good these days. ideally you want to look for an 80+ gold or 80+ titanium rated supply but generally anything 80+ bronze or better is good and will last a long while
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;52780734]Absolutely not. Buy a new PSU and junk the old one as soon as you can. If you stress a shitty power supply you are playing with fire (sometimes literally)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=butre;52780738]if you've got a multimeter, checking the output is as easy as probing the leads. if not, then unless your bios has a voltage meter function then your best bet is to try a known good unit.
disabling surge protection may work temporarily but it may also burn your house down. it's guaranteed to fry the rest of your components eventually. have a fire extinguisher at the ready if you do it, and unplug it whenever you leave it unattended.
pretty much any name-brand power supply is good these days. ideally you want to look for an 80+ gold or 80+ titanium rated supply but generally anything 80+ bronze or better is good and will last a long while[/QUOTE]
Thanks a ton for the help guys. I'll go to the PC building thread to ask for PSU recommendations as I have 0 clue about those. Don't even know how much power I need.
I believe overheating generated shutdowns should leave the fans on after the shutdown, right?
[QUOTE=Fox Powers;52780822]I believe overheating generated shutdowns should leave the fans on after the shutdown, right?[/QUOTE]
Sometimes, depends on what's failing. GPU overheating leaves fans running, CPU usually tanks the whole system.
it's definitely not an overheating problem, when temps reach 85-90c then you should be worried
Thanks for the help guys. New PSU arrived, I hooked it up and I've been playing the problem games for a few hours with no issue whatsoever.
[QUOTE=AugustBurnsRed;52780734]Absolutely not. Buy a new PSU and junk the old one as soon as you can. If you stress a shitty power supply you are playing with fire (sometimes literally)[/QUOTE]
Looks like it actually may have been a PSU issue, but ASUS Antisurge is a well known piece of shit and even ASUS themselves have acknowledged as much.
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