Albums through the times can recieve some scrutiny for various reasons and then are forgotten about over the years, and never re-visited because at the time it was probably too "un-accessible" and "weird" for the general public.
Now is the time when music is incredibly easy to obtain, that we can simply grab things from the past and say "wow, someone's missing something that is quite good".
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The Pretty Things - Parachute - 1970
You'd think that psychedelic rock would be very popular across the board in those times. But this wasn't even NOTICED by anyone back then at all. Seriously good stuff, an obscure classic.
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Marvin Gaye - Here, My Dear - 1978
Now this album is depressing as fuck, very different from anything popular he did previously. Everyone hated this and thought "just because he's divorced, doesn't mean he has to make an hour long record about it".
But in my opinion, some of his most personal songs are to be found here. Even vocally, some of his most powerful stuff is here. Musically, it is well ahead of the game with funk fusion.
I think now it has been recognized as one of his best by some critics, but still.
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The Clash - Cut The Crap - 1985
The last album of theirs, and over time it has been thrashed by fans because of how different it is. I listened to London Calling a week ago and it's fair to see how explosive and groundbreaking that really was.
I listened to that and it sounded so FRESH and relateable, that I can't really compare it to many things made around that time.
That being said, this is a good album. It has character and boldness, and it is listenable. Obviously not quite as good, but still a lot better than people say it is. Give it a spin and listen rather than thinking too much.
Bob Dylan's self-portrait is pretty good if you just don't take it very seriously. It's just a goofy stupid fun album and I think Mr. Zimmerman knew that.
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Not a bad album at all. It's no LA Woman but still a good tribute to the memory.
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also this:
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Such intricate textures of noise. It swirls and twists and you end up feeling refreshed.
Better than cocaine (not that I have)
in before st anger
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AKz, I have a confession
I can't Marvin Gaye seriously
because he wrote sexual healing
waat shult i do?!
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32928490]
AKz, I have a confession
I can't Marvin Gaye seriously
because he wrote sexual healing
waat shult i do?![/QUOTE]
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it's not helping. I like "what's going on" but I still have a hard time going "oh he's a serious musician" I mean it's just all a bit cheesy?
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that's a good song though, it's just kinda cheesy.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32928732]it's not helping. I like "what's going on" but I still have a hard time going "oh he's a serious musician" I mean it's just all a bit cheesy?
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that's a good song though, it's just kinda cheesy.[/QUOTE]
Well yeah it is, but with funk it doesn't have to be taken all seriously. Look at Prince, he's the master of 80s funk and he made a song called "Housequake", it's actually great.
If you want the more "Music" side of Marvin, try his Trouble Man soundtrack. But even then it's fair to say he's a through and through musician if you go through his albums from What's Going On.
I wouldn't even say What's Going On is his most personal work.
sure it's not his most personal work or whatever it's just the whole musicality and presentation pulls me out of it (it here referring to most records following that one). When talking about this subject I kinda refer to this quote by Plant
[quote]In '77, when I lost my boy, I didn't really want to go swinging around - 'Hey hey mama say the way you move' didn't really have a great deal of import any more. In Through The Out Door is more conscientious and less animal.[/quote]
Does Gaye just do that backwards or something because his more "personal" and "serious" works seem even more silly that what is just simply his earlier works. Maybe that's just all he knew and didn't think of adapting the actual music to his new messages. It's all very confusing.
Not really. He just had the balls to release something like Let's Get It On. To be honest it paid off greatly because in ways that could be the better record that he's made.
It's not like Barry White who was so [I]obviously[/I] about sexual music, but what Gaye did was put his personal feelings about women in his life into music. Here, My Dear is the polar opposite of Let's Get It On, that's why it failed to sell.
but they sound exactly the same to me lol
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that's the problem I'm having
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Got horrid reviews because people kept comparing it to Young Team, even though this album was a big step [i]away[/i] from that style of post-rock.
It's obviously their best album and all the major reviewers should take back what they said about it. I'm looking at youuu Pitchfork.
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also marvin gaye is pretty awesome based on What's Going On and Let's Get It On
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32929499]but they sound exactly the same to me lol
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that's the problem I'm having[/QUOTE]
Let's Get It On is an album about his love for a woman.
Here, My Dear is an album about showing his bitterness for the woman who divorced him. Different ball part.
Sexual Healing is just a cheesy 80s pop song, still good though.
well yes lyrically they are miles different I'm saying musically they sound very similar
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and anyway that's the real problem I'm having. How can someone that seriously releases such a cheesy song be taken so seriously? It's hard for me to understand that. I guess it was like 11+ years after his "prime" works and you could argue the same points with Metallica to an extent but still it's difficult.
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32929668]well yes lyrically they are miles different I'm saying musically they sound very similar[/QUOTE]
Same genres, bro. There's your answer. :-)
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Straight away, you look at that cover and think "WHAT THE HELL". It's actually a good album.
well again I refer to the robert plant quote. for different messages different musical styles are appropriate and it's just a bit odd to write such cheesy poppy funk riffs under serious and deep messages.
I guess it makes sense/works. I mean my problem isn't with Let's Get It On or Here My Dear, it's just fuckin sexual healing, anyway
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[QUOTE=AK'z;32929702]Same genres, bro. There's your answer. :-)
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Straight away, you look at that cover and think "WHAT THE HELL". It's actually a good album.[/QUOTE]
I think all the Stones albums after like 76 are crap lol
got nothing to do with album covers though
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I think all the Stones albums after like 76 are crap lol
got nothing to do with album covers though[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but it's kind of the "image" they had.
They went into disco and 80s pop vibes and people started to dislike them.
I personally think they were pretty enjoyable in the 80s.
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Yes, it's cheesy but damn how could you not say that's a groovy song. Jagger still has that edge.
well I hate disco so I guess that's all there is to it hahaha
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32929855]well I hate disco so I guess that's all there is to it hahaha[/QUOTE]
Cheese is healthy.
I get my fill of cheese from power metal. I understand
so if I posted Helloween's Chameleon album nobody would go mad?
well that album sucks too it's not even power metal but you know whatever. I think there are a lot of people here that really like it. To me, well, I think it's a good album, but really it still sucks in that it really shouldn't have happened, but you know it has and you just kinda got to live with it.
Well, I don't actually because I just don't listen to it but you know whatever.
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It's no avenged sevenfold but when I hear it I just wonder "why am I not listening to one of their albums that is millions of times better?"
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Absolutely superb. If you liked This is Spinal Tap, you'll love this album.
I don't know if that second part is a joke or not
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or the first part for that matter
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Absolutely superb. If you liked This is Spinal Tap, you'll love this album.[/QUOTE]
That's the most unfitting album cover for a metal band I've ever seen.
oh it fits
[QUOTE=Vedicardi;32930365]I don't know if that second part is a joke or not
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or the first part for that matter[/QUOTE]
True greatness.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32929877]Cheese is healthy.[/QUOTE]
Cheese is also basically curdled milk.
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Marvin Gaye - Here, My Dear - 1978
Now this album is depressing as fuck, very different from anything popular he did previously. Everyone hated this and thought "just because he's divorced, doesn't mean he has to make an hour long record about it".
But in my opinion, some of his most personal songs are to be found here. Even vocally, some of his most powerful stuff is here. Musically, it is well ahead of the game with funk fusion.
I think now it has been recognized as one of his best by some critics, but still.
[/QUOTE]
To be fair though, when he divorced, he got a deal ; He could make an album, and have ALL the profits given to his divorced wife, so he took that deal and made a terrible album just to give her the long finger and laugh all the way to the bank as he cashed in on his other albums.
He made a great job on the album, that's for sure, but he also made sure it wouldn't be as commercialy viable that his previous albums had been, just to be sure that his wife got fucked over. =)
I personally think that Guns N Roses - Chinese Democracy is severely underrated, people love to bash on Axl, but some of the most heartfelt and emotional songs can be found on Chinese Democracy.
"This I love", "Street of Dreams" and "Catcher In The Rhye" are some of the finest songs I've heard, and I firmly believe that Chinese Democracy is a testament to not only Axls genious, but also how he tried to cope with going from being a abused teenager, to the frontman of the greatest band of the late 80's/early 90's, to his fall and rise again.
It's just filled to the brim with him trying to deal with it all, and "This I love" has one of the most beatiful solos I've ever heard. It's not the old Guns N Roses, but everything changes, and while I miss the old Guns N Roses, it was just never meant to last. Hell, people complain that new GnR sounds so industrial, but I'm almost 100% certain that people would still bash him even if he had made something that would sound like a carbon copy of the old GnR too.
[QUOTE=Dick Tracy;32942896]made a terrible album[/QUOTE]
Hold on...
It's not a terrible album at all where on earth did you get that from?
His original idea [I]was[/I] to do a shit album, but then he decided to be bitter and make songs that would genuinely piss her off.
[QUOTE=AK'z;32943406]Hold on...
It's not a terrible album at all where on earth did you get that from?
His original idea [I]was[/I] to do a shit album, but then he decided to be bitter and make songs that would genuinely piss her off.[/QUOTE]
Commercially terrible, that is! Sorry, should've pointed that out since it's a good album like you say. =)
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