FOX: 'Mother,' 'Father' Changing to 'Parent One,' 'Parent Two' on Passport Applications - Polidicks

[B]FOX 'Mother,' 'Father' Changing to 'Parent One,' 'Parent Two' on Passport Applications [/B] [release]The words “mother” and “father” will be removed from U.S. passport applications and replaced with gender neutral terminology, the State Department says. “The words in the old form were ‘mother’ and ‘father,’” said Brenda Sprague, deputy assistant Secretary of State for Passport Services. "They are now ‘parent one’ and ‘parent two.’" A statement on the State Department website noted: “These improvements are being made to provide a gender neutral description of a child’s parents and in recognition of different types of families.” The statement didn't note if it was for child applications only. The State Department said the new passport applications, not yet available to the public, will be available online soon. Sprague said the decision to remove the traditional parenting names was not an act of political correctness. “We find that with changes in medical science and reproductive technology that we are confronting situations now that we would not have anticipated 10 or 15 years ago,” she said. Gay rights groups are applauding the decision. “Changing the term mother and father to the more global term of parent allows many different types of families to be able to go and apply for a passport for their child without feeling like the government doesn’t recognize their family,” said Jennifer Chrisler, executive director of Family Equality Council. Her organization lobbied the government for several years to remove the words from passport applications. “Our government needs to recognize that the family structure is changing,” Chrisler said. “The best thing that we can do is support people who are raising kids in loving, stable families.” But some conservative Christians are outraged over the decision. “Only in the topsy-turvy world of left-wing political correctness could it be considered an ‘improvement’ for a birth-related document to provide less information about the circumstances of that birth,” Family Research Council president Tony Perkins wrote in a statement to Fox News Radio. “This is clearly designed to advance the causes of same-sex ‘marriage’ and homosexual parenting without statutory authority, and violates the spirit if not the letter of the Defense of Marriage Act.” Robert Jeffress, pastor of the First Baptist Church in Dallas, agreed. “It’s part of an overall attempt at political correctness to diminish the distinction between men and women and to somehow suggest you don’t need both a father and a mother to raise a child successfully,” said Jeffress. “(This decision) was made to make homosexual couples feel more comfortable in rearing children.” Chrisler recounted the day she and her female partner tried to get her twin sons passports. “Even though my partner was their legal mother, had adopted them after I gave birth to them, she still had to put her name in the father field, and that is both discriminatory and makes us feel like second-class citizens,” she said. Sprague said she would not use the word discriminatory to describe the old passport form. “I would prefer to use the word imprecise,” she said. “It just didn’t capture the reality of their situation. Clearly, we want to be sensitive to the feelings of other people, but we are also very conscious of our need to introduce the greatest degree of precision to the process.” Perkins, meanwhile, accused the State Department of disrespecting the law and called on Congress to “take their oversight rule very seriously and intervene in both these circumstances.” The new gender-neutral passport application will be rolled out in February.[/release] Source: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/07/passport-applications-soon-gender-neutral/#ixzz1AO0Myttt[/url] I just, *Facepalm* Did they really have to do this?

Can I join and be parent 3? Also this is retarded. It's like instead of saying he or she, you call them IT.

What's your concern? I don't believe in iron-cast seperate maternal/paternal roles.

I would say it is a bit more convenient. Other than that, with some same-sex couples with adopted children it would lead to a lot of confusion. What's the big deal?

Doesn't seem like a bad thing at all. It's just a little clerical thing that opens up the system to more easily allow for gay couples.

wow... just wow...

i dunno if there was a gay couple with a kid how would you determine mother and father parent 1 and parent 2 seems to work for me

Since gay parents can never be a "mother" or "father", and just "parent #1" and "parent #2", that means they have to argue who is going to be 1st and 2nd. Thats like whos going to ask who is the catcher or the pitcher. FOX: Gay divorces on the rise!

Does it do this: "advance the causes of same-sex ‘marriage’ and homosexual parenting without statutory authority, and violates the spirit if not the letter of the Defense of Marriage Act.” Is doing this wrong?

Why not just call the gay couples, Father 1 and Father 2 and the lesbians, Mother 1 and Mother 2... wtf.

This is a good thing and should have already been done anyway.

[QUOTE=W0w00t;27263909]i dunno if there was a gay couple with a kid how would you determine mother and father parent 1 and parent 2 seems to work for me[/QUOTE] Father 1 and father 2?

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;27263988]Why not just call the gay couples, Father 1 and Father 2 and the lesbians, Mother 1 and Mother 2... wtf.[/QUOTE] Because it would totally be simpler to add a Father and Mother 2 option just in case instead of changing it, right? :jerkbag:

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;27263988]Why not just call the gay couples, Father 1 and Father 2 and the lesbians, Mother 1 and Mother 2... wtf.[/QUOTE] Because you would then need to have three different forms, which is stupid. Then what happens if they want to be neutrally gendered parents? Now you need more forms. Change the langauge to be independent of gender is the best and easiest course of action.

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;27264031]Because you would then need to have three different forms, which is stupid. Then what happens if they want to be neutrally gendered parents? Now you need more forms. Change the langauge to be independent of gender is the best and easiest course of action.[/QUOTE] Hm.. all right.. but now they have to change everyone, right?

I challenge you to reach Parent 99 rank.

Thats kinda good but in the same time just dumb

[b]:foxnews: STATE DEPARTMENT ALTERS DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE - IS OBAMA TO BLAME? MORE AT 6 :foxnews:[/b]

[QUOTE=AtomicWaffle;27264104][b]:foxnews: STATE DEPARTMENT CHANGES DEFINITION OF MARRIAGE - IS OBAMA TO BLAME? MORE AT 6 :foxnews:[/b][/QUOTE] We need a GNN emote Screw that, we need a Glaber rating

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;27264060]Hm.. all right.. but now they have to change everyone, right?[/QUOTE] No? Now you just stop printing the old forms and print new ones. Old passports are still good until they expire. All this is was a simple change of wording on the application for a passport.

[QUOTE=Errorproxy;27263988]Why not just call the gay couples, Father 1 and Father 2 and the lesbians, Mother 1 and Mother 2... wtf.[/QUOTE] So you don't have to print them differently.. Besides, it would be awkward for someone to ask So, your gays right? let me just put that down here on your information..

Who cares what they are named?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;27264138]Who cares?[/QUOTE] Idiots & bigots.

they should start counting from 0 instead of 1

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;27264031]Because you would then need to have three different forms, which is stupid. Then what happens if they want to be neutrally gendered parents? Now you need more forms. Change the langauge to be independent of gender is the best and easiest course of action.[/QUOTE] I haven't heard of anyone with neutral gender before. Even for transexuals they are either recognized as a man or a woman. There's no middle ground.

[QUOTE=BmB;27264168]I haven't heard of anyone with neutral gender before. Even for transexuals they are either recognized as a man or a woman. There's no middle ground.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't rule out the possibility, though.

[QUOTE=Kagrenak;27264031]Because you would then need to have three different forms, which is stupid. Then what happens if they want to be neutrally gendered parents? Now you need more forms. Change the langauge to be independent of gender is the best and easiest course of action.[/QUOTE] What about kids with 3 or more parents or parents of a different species?

[QUOTE=Glaber;27264195]What about kids with 3 or more parents or parents of a different species?[/QUOTE] I don't have any objection to some of what that covers either if I go blindly off my previous statement, oddly enough. I know of no potential issue in terms of upbringing although I'm obviously not very well informed on this issue. I suppose there's a limit where the parent ceases to act as a caring person but that's not limited to this. A three-parent situation would be interesting but plausible - a grandfatherly role, for example, might be possible. It obviously rules out having dogs as parents but I'm still not sure that's a watertight filter.

Censorship and safety are fucking everything up.

[QUOTE=johan_sm;27263892]Can I join and be parent 3? Also this is retarded. It's like instead of saying he or she, you call them IT.[/QUOTE] Because homosexuals don't exist right? If I was gay and married I sure as fuck wouldn't want to be called a wife.