[url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23642880[/url]
[quote]President Barack Obama has urged a series of reforms to US surveillance programmes in order to guarantee greater openness and oversight.[/quote]
[url]http://uk.reuters.com/article/2013/08/09/uk-usa-surveillance-obama-idUKBRE9780UU20130809[/url]
[quote]Under pressure to respond to the disclosures by Snowden, Obama plans to overhaul Section 215 of the anti-terrorism Patriot Act that governs the collection of so-called "metadata" such as phone records.
Obama will also pursue with Congress a reform of the secretive Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, which considers requests from law enforcement authorities to target an individual for intelligence gathering.
He wants to let a civil liberties representative weigh in on the court's deliberations to ensure an adversarial voice is heard, administration officials said.
Obama also said he wants to provide more details about the NSA programs to try to restore any public trust damaged by the Snowden disclosures.
The administration will also form a high-level group of outside experts to review the U.S. surveillance effort.[/quote]
this will totally happen i have no doubt about it whatsoever
[editline]9th August 2013[/editline]
no srsly guys it will happen i trust obamo
Lot of nice-sounding talk, "Oh Snowden was right we're so sorry guys we promise we'll change!", but I'm sure they would still have Snowden quietly executed and never spoken of again if they ever caught him.
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;41775727]Lot of nice-sounding talk, "Oh Snowden was right we're so sorry guys we promise we'll change!", but I'm sure they would still have Snowden quietly executed and never spoken of again if they ever caught him.[/QUOTE]
"from today on, we pledge to be more transparent about security and we won't pursue americans who reveal information about government's wrongdoings"
-"So does this mean Snowden can return to America a free man?"
-"I said from today on."
"we're going to put in a window, only it's actually a two-way mirror so we can watch you and you can't see what we're doing."
I'm sorry [B]44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama II[/B], but I can't believe that for one minute.
[QUOTE=barttool;41775707]this will totally happen i have no doubt about it whatsoever
[editline]9th August 2013[/editline]
no srsly guys it will happen i trust obamo[/QUOTE]
Well that's all the convincing I need. Time to go post about it on Facebook.
[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;41775727]have Snowden quietly executed and never spoken of again[/QUOTE]
yeah ok sure
[QUOTE=OvB;41775788]I'm sorry Mr.Obama but I can't believe that for one minute.[/QUOTE]
He's the president. You can disrespect him and that's fine. However, he has a title.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775801]He's the president. You can disrespect him and that's fine. However, he has a title.[/QUOTE]
Sorry Sir Paul McCartney
The only thing transparent... is his lies.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41775827]Sorry Sir Paul McCartney[/QUOTE]
Yes yes. Respect our titles.
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[QUOTE=BLOODGA$M;41775727]Lot of nice-sounding talk, "Oh Snowden was right we're so sorry guys we promise we'll change!", but I'm sure they would still have Snowden quietly executed and never spoken of again if they ever caught him.[/QUOTE]
Did you get your concept of government from Saturday morning cartoons, or can you just not comprehend the immensity of what a stupid thing to do that would be? The international outrage of "quietly executing" Snowden would do a hundred times more damage than the leak itself did.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41775873]Did you get your concept of government from Saturday morning cartoons, or can you just not comprehend the immensity of what a stupid thing to do that would be? The international outrage of "quietly executing" Snowden would do a hundred times more damage than the leak itself did.[/QUOTE]
And expensive. We have to sacrifice one helicopter per every high priority assassination.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775856]Yes yes. Respect our titles.
[img]http://puu.sh/3XTvl.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
That actually made me laugh.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41775873]Did you get your concept of government from Saturday morning cartoons, or can you just not comprehend the immensity of what a stupid thing to do that would be? The international outrage of "quietly executing" Snowden would do a hundred times more damage than the leak itself did.[/QUOTE]
At this point they couldn't really get away with that, but I would fully expect him to receive much of the same treatment that Manning did.
I PROMISE GUYS!! I PROMISE FOR REAL THIS TIME!
[QUOTE=ZakkShock;41775900]That actually made me laugh.[/QUOTE]
I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.
[QUOTE=Used Car Salesman;41775909]At this point they couldn't really get away with that, but I would fully expect him to receive much of the same treatment that Manning did.[/QUOTE]
I wouldn't. Manning's treatment was another huge national embarrassment that caught our government with its pants down. They should not want to be caught in that position again, especially so soon afterwards! Yes, Snowden would likely be tried for treason, which he did technically commit, even though he did it for the right reasons. And yes, the government's handling of the Snowden case so far, by acting like big whiny angry babies at everybody considering giving him asylum, has been awkward and embarrassing for just about everybody.
But the government isn't run by costumed supervillains in a volcano lair. They simply cannot do whatever the hell they want without repercussions, and right now the entire civilized world is shining a spotlight at them. They have to go by protocol and they have to uphold his civil liberties, because if they don't, it would be found out almost immediately, and they'd have to deal with public and international outrage.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775932]I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OvB;41775788]I'm sorry [B]44th President of the United States, Barack Hussein Obama II[/B], but I can't believe that for one minute.[/QUOTE]
Better?
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775932]I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.[/QUOTE]
Americans don't really share that view. It's no big deal unless you're literally actually talking to him
[QUOTE=OvB;41776002]Better?[/QUOTE]
Yeah but what's his [B]last[/B] name?
[QUOTE=OvB;41776002]Better?[/QUOTE]
President is fine, but I give you an A for effort.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775932]I totally didn't mean to pull it into the direction of a joke. It just irks me since he's the fucking President. Doesn't matter your views on him, calling him Mr, rather than his title is just disrespectful.[/QUOTE]
[quote=BBC article in the OP]Mr Obama also urged allowing a lawyer to challenge decisions by the nation's secretive surveillance court.[/quote]
He's just a mooselum communist terrorist that wants to sacrifice our safety and get us all killed!
[QUOTE=Protocol7;41776027]Yeah but what's his [B]last[/B] name?[/QUOTE]
44th President of the United States, Muslamic lawyer Barrack Hussein "The Kenyan Cowboy" Obama-Rama the II.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;41776019]Americans don't really share that view. It's no big deal unless you're literally actually talking to him[/QUOTE]
Titles in politics are quite prevalent in usage. Former and current titles are typically used before their last name, only time i've seen it really not used is if they say their last name only, or just say Mr to avoid using the word President.
[editline]9th August 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Smug Bastard;41776054]He's just a mooselum communist terrorist that wants to sacrifice our safety and get us all killed![/QUOTE]
Course you would say that, Governor Romney.
[QUOTE=Paul McCartney;41775887]And expensive. We have to sacrifice one helicopter per every high priority assassination.[/QUOTE]
If everyone already knows you are going to kill him, it would be easier and cheaper to just make some of your tanks remote controlled.
Rep Joe Wilson is vindicated.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;41776060]44th President of the United States, Muslamic lawyer Barrack Hussein "The Kenyan Cowboy" Obama-Rama the II.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but... what's his last name!?
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