• With Mike Pence gone, fellow Republicans undo his work in Indiana
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A bit of local news but I feel like it gives some perspective on Indiana Republicans and how Pence doesn't necessarily reflect on the state of the party in Indiana. I can't really find a good way to paraphrase the entire article so I'd suggest reading the whole thing. [quote]Vice President Mike Pence's fellow Republicans took a number of steps Thursday to undo his policies, just weeks after the former governor left Indiana for the White House. His handpicked successor and former lieutenant governor, Gov. Eric Holcomb, began the day with a news conference where he announced that he was canceling contract negotiations to lease state-owned cellphone towers to an Ohio company. The Pence administration had struck a tentative deal with the company and promised it would cover the cost of more than $50 million in bicentennial construction projects he initiated. Holcomb also pardoned Keith Cooper, who was wrongfully convicted of robbery nearly 20 years ago, and declared a disaster emergency for an East Chicago neighborhood where residents have been forced to relocate because of lead contamination.[/quote] [url]http://www.courierpress.com/story/news/politics/2017/02/09/pence-gone-fellow-republicans-undo-his-work/97699694/[/url]
Republicans doing decent things? Impressive. How religiously influenced are the politics there without Pence?
[QUOTE=Freakie;51803119]Republicans doing decent things? Impressive. How religiously influenced are the politics there without Pence?[/QUOTE] From what I've heard Pence was almost a blacksheep in how he interwove religion into his policies to the degree that he did, largely done in an effort to appeal to the national GOP.
When I heard Trump chose Mike as his VP I was like wtf who is mike pence turns out mike pence is literally nobody. who gives a shit about mike pence like if mike pence was never put on Trumps cabinet I would still not know he exsists anyway im going to bed goodnight MADDOG 2020 [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Sgt Doom))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Freakie;51803119]Republicans doing decent things? Impressive.[/QUOTE] In quite a few red states there is no point in running under the democrat banner so "blue" politicians run under the republican one even though they may have fundamental disagreements with the local party platform.
[QUOTE=Freakie;51803119]Republicans doing decent things? Impressive. How religiously influenced are the politics there without Pence?[/QUOTE] You have to remember that individual "Republican" citizens aren't necessarily bad and may be quite moderate. The problem is the GOP going nuts and wasting time banning abortion and the such
[QUOTE=da space core;51807611]You have to remember that individual "Republican" citizens aren't necessarily bad and may be quite moderate. The problem is the GOP going nuts and wasting time banning abortion and the such[/QUOTE] Republicans, that is, the everyday people and voting citizens who subscribe to that political leaning are just as complex and varied as any other population of millions of people. Republicans, as in the few hundred who represent their will in the government, making laws, writing Bills, etc. are the ones I have a problem with that tend to be a pathetic caricature of their party. Here in Indiana, we are in a weird place, we are "sort of" in the Midwest but not exactly, we are technically sort of in "the South" (I mean, Kentucky IS attached to us) and we are most definitely in the Bible Belt. All of these things affect this State in strange push-pull ways. But we are often quite left-ish on lots of things, we have a LOT of factories, for instance, and some of them even work. These large numbers of factory and industrial jobs make the state often highly pro-union. We have a tremendous number of middle-class living situations, and very few places with upper-class areas (Carmel for instance, with its mansion housing district called Shadow Lakes) which means you really need to get the attention of those kind of people more so than the wealthy investor types by far here. Pence was going for the GOP in Washington's attention. He was too uncompromisingly Republican for most Indiana voters, who even tend to vote red on most things, but not all. Good old Mikey was being the caricature of the Grand Old Party that so many of them try to be, and we like to think doesn't work, and would get you thrown out of any serious position for being inflexible, insensitive to progress, and reckless. It turns out it does on a small State scale. He acted like them, and look where it got him, a place as the Vice President of the United States. Not sure what else to say about that.
[QUOTE=Freakie;51803119]Republicans doing decent things? Impressive. How religiously influenced are the politics there without Pence?[/QUOTE] So on the one hand you tell people not to generalize all black people/jews/pick your minority based on the doing of a few but when those people are not on your side, it is totally okay. Don't you think that makes you a hypocrite?
[QUOTE=da space core;51807611]You have to remember that individual "Republican" citizens aren't necessarily bad and may be quite moderate. The problem is the GOP going nuts and wasting time banning abortion and the such[/QUOTE] The GOP panders hard for the insane portion of the population while regular people vote for them because they [B][U][I]really[/I][/U][/B] don't want higher taxes
[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51808967]So on the one hand you tell people not to generalize all black people/jews/pick your minority based on the doing of a few but when those people are not on your side, it is totally okay. Don't you think that makes you a hypocrite?[/QUOTE] You choose to be conservative. And if you choose to label yourself part of a group that is known for doing unsavory things, people will hold you accountable. If you part of a group where your inclusion is not your choice, it's unfair to criticize someone for being in that group.
[QUOTE=Trebgarta;51809071]A political party membership class isnt a fucking minority This is the second time I post this to one of your posts: :hurr: What is a minority Seriously, learn what a minority means in this context then use the word. [editline]11th February 2017[/editline] Hint: What is a protected class, and why are they protected? Why is discrimination based on race is unacceptable but based on political beliefs is okay in some contexts?[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter if it is a minority or not. It was an example. What do you mean "What is a minority" I know what a minority is. Would you think it is ok to generalize all women? My point is that generalizing a whole lot of people simply because they belong to something is bad. Judge people individually. How about a better example: Feminism. Just because you got a few bad apples, you shouldn't generalize all feminists. Or people leaning to the left of the political spectrum, they are mostly not people who burn up cars and smash windows of buildings. Just as not all people leaning right are Nazis. [QUOTE=New Cidem;51809101]You choose to be conservative. And if you choose to label yourself part of a group that is known for doing unsavory things, people will hold you accountable. If you part of a group where your inclusion is not your choice, it's unfair to criticize someone for being in that group.[/QUOTE] People also choose to be a muslim or a jew, doesn't mean they find terrorist bombings or the Israel-Palestina conflict okay. The world is not black and white.
[QUOTE=Smoovedawg1;51803323]When I heard Trump chose Mike as his VP I was like wtf who is mike pence turns out mike pence is literally nobody. who gives a shit about mike pence like if mike pence was never put on Trumps cabinet I would still not know he exsists anyway im going to bed goodnight MADDOG 2020 [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Shitpost" - Sgt Doom))[/highlight][/QUOTE] this is such a good post this might be my new favorite post on this hell site
[QUOTE=CarnolfMeatla;51809882]How about a better example: Feminism. Just because you got a few bad apples, you shouldn't generalize all feminists. Or people leaning to the left of the political spectrum, they are mostly not people who burn up cars and smash windows of buildings. Just as not all people leaning right are Nazis.[/QUOTE] These comparisons would hold up if Donald Trump wasn't President and ostensibly leader of the republican party.
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