• Irish Taoiseach says 'unique solution' possible in Brexit talks
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[B]Taoiseach says 'unique solution' possible in Brexit talks[/B] [URL="https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1014/912316-varadkar-brexit/"]https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/1014/912316-varadkar-brexit/[/URL] [QUOTE]Taoiseach Leo Varadkar has said European leaders are willing to grant a unique solution for Northern Ireland in Brexit negotiations. In an address to business leaders in Derry, Mr Varadkar said EU nations understand peace on the island of Ireland is "young and still fragile". Mr Varadkar said there is "huge goodwill for Northern Ireland right across Europe" and a willingness to make exceptions for the country that would not be made for others. "In my contacts with European presidents and prime ministers, I have received considerable support and understanding for the particular challenges we face," he said. "From Berlin to Brussels, they understand that Northern Ireland is unique, that the peace is young and still fragile, and are willing to make exceptions for Northern Ireland that would not be made for others." Mr Varadkar said it is hoped that the ultimate outcome of the negotiations will be the "closest possible trade and customs relationship between the UK and the EU". However, he added: "So, if this is ultimately not attainable, then we will seek a unique solution for Northern Ireland, reflecting its unique history and geography. "A solution which does not undermine the constitutional settlement in any way, rather one that takes account of the realities on this island and builds on common regulatory approaches, frameworks and systems," he added. With power-sharing in Northern Ireland deadlocked for months, the Taoiseach told the local Chamber of Commerce that the best way to secure a unique solution for Northern Ireland is "to ask for it". Mr Varadkar said there was a willingness to change the rules and create "a flexible solution, a unique solution, one for Northern Ireland, one that may not be available to the rest of the UK or even the rest of Ireland". The Taoiseach's speech came in the wake of Brexit negotiators revealing that the talks over the UK's divorce bill are stalling. The discussions are stuck on phase one with some progress reported on the issue of the Irish border and the Common Travel Area between the UK and Ireland.[/QUOTE] An unique solution would be very welcome considering the British seem unwilling to do anything sensible on the issues :/
I know NI has it's history but I wonder if Scotland will pull something out of the bag, considering it had the highest percentage of votes to stay in any UK country and one of the reasons the independence referendum failed was scaremongering by Westminster about being ford to leave the EU that frankly didn't even matter since they decided to call Brexit.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52778749] An unique solution would be very welcome considering the British seem unwilling to do anything sensible on the issues :/[/QUOTE] Please don't associate all of us with the rabid monkeys and opportunists in parliament at the moment.
[QUOTE=GordonZombie;52778809]Please don't associate all of us with the rabid monkeys and opportunists in parliament at the moment.[/QUOTE] Sorry, I meant the government. Though im not sure how much your countrymen care.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52778870]Sorry, I meant the government. Though im not sure how much your countrymen care.[/QUOTE] Vast majority of people are pissed fyi, even lots of those who voted for Brexit because there was no plan. Actually Scottish not Dutch, just live here now
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52778870]Sorry, I meant the government. Though im not sure how much your countrymen care.[/QUOTE] Lots of us really really do.
[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;52778806]I know NI has it's history but I wonder if Scotland will pull something out of the bag, considering it had the highest percentage of votes to stay in any UK country and one of the reasons the independence referendum failed was scaremongering by Westminster about being ford to leave the EU that frankly didn't even matter since they decided to call Brexit.[/QUOTE] But given that the EU has said that Catalonia would be out of the EU if it declared independence, it wasn't really scaremongering was it?
[QUOTE=David29;52779532]But given that the EU has said that Catalonia would be out of the EU if it declared independence, it wasn't really scaremongering was it?[/QUOTE] Scotland is not Catalonia, the EU itself never commented anything concrete on Scotland and its future with Europe
[QUOTE=Mr Kotov;52779546]Scotland is not Catalonia, the EU itself never commented anything concrete on Scotland and its future with Europe[/QUOTE] No, Scotland is not Catalonia. However, rules and legislation on such an issue as declaring independence need to be consistent. You can't have one set of rules for one country and another set of rules for another. Also: [url]https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/13/independent-scotland-would-have-to-apply-to-join-eu-commission-says[/url] Unless you believe Scotland deserves special treatment?
[QUOTE=David29;52781231] Also: [url]https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/politics/2017/mar/13/independent-scotland-would-have-to-apply-to-join-eu-commission-says[/url] Unless you believe Scotland deserves special treatment?[/QUOTE] Pretty sure that application would have been accepted before it even reached the EU's desk. It's a no-brainer that Scotland would join the EU eventually anyway, and pulling it out, then in is both an economic waste and a bureaucratic nightmare that no one is interested in.
[QUOTE=Riller;52781287]Pretty sure that application would have been accepted before it even reached the EU's desk. It's a no-brainer that Scotland would join the EU eventually anyway, and pulling it out, then in is both an economic waste and a bureaucratic nightmare that no one is interested in.[/QUOTE] A lot of speculation there. It was widely accepted that any attempt to fast-track Scotland into the EU would require approval from all member states.
[QUOTE=David29;52781317]A lot of speculation there. It was widely accepted that any attempt to fast-track Scotland into the EU would require approval from all member states.[/QUOTE] And what member states would not want that to happen?
[QUOTE=Riller;52781322]And what member states would not want that to happen?[/QUOTE] Spain.
[QUOTE=BlackMageMari;52778870]Sorry, I meant the government. Though im not sure how much your countrymen care.[/QUOTE] I care more about your country than I do my own in most respects.
Honestly I really wanna keep scottland because they vote more sensibly on a lot of issues. But that isn't to say that england is some dumb shithole (at least for the brexit vote), [B]More people in england voted remain than people in scottland[/B] and let's not forget that the brexit vote was only 52% of a 72%, The England part of Britain is just much bigger and more populous but we need each-other.
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