So I am trying to decide whether to purchase the i7 or i5 in my new build. Everyone says i5 all the way for gaming, but what about for rendering? I render videos daily and shortened times could make a big difference, but is the difference worth $100? I have researched it a little and people seem to be split, I am looking for a more solid answer. If somebody could post examples on the differences in times that would be very helpful, I couldn't find any.
If you do it enough to where you are actually going to take advantage of HT then It's worth it. If not, a 2500k is just fine.
What Brendon said
If you render videos a lot then the Hyperthreading would be useful
If you are actually considering which one to buy, get the 2500k, then overclock to 3.5 in like 15 seconds and it's basically already beating the 2600k.
And then the 2600k is overclocked even further than the 2500k...
[QUOTE=waxrock;33916664]And then the 2600k is overclocked even further than the 2500k...[/QUOTE]
And to get the most out of it, most people disable HT. So you're spending 100 bucks on 2 extra MB of cache.
Point I'm making is, if you're actually curious about the difference, you probably should just go for the 2500k.
if you're just gaming the 2500k is the processor for you
I don't think some video rendering would be too taxing either, aka the difference would probably be negligible between the two unless you stress your CPU constantly with severe rendering
[QUOTE=Protocol7;33916735]if you're just gaming the 2500k is the processor for you
I don't think some video rendering would be too taxing either, aka the difference would probably be negligible between the two unless you stress your CPU constantly with severe rendering[/QUOTE]
I render anywhere from10 minute to 1 hour long videos every day. Sometimes more than one.
[QUOTE=JuiceHead3311;33918910]I render anywhere from10 minute to 1 hour long videos every day. Sometimes more than one.[/QUOTE]
In this case, the i7 would come in handy. That means if you're constantly running out of time when it comes to wait for things to finish.
Does the program you use not have a [url=http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Network-Rendering-in-Sony-Vegas-37820.htm]network rendering[/url] function?
I mean if you do this for a job or as your main income it may be time to invest in a small render farm, if not it's probably an expensive do.
[QUOTE=Tezzanator92;33919372]Does the program you use not have a [url=http://www.eventdv.net/Articles/News/Feature/Network-Rendering-in-Sony-Vegas-37820.htm]network rendering[/url] function?
I mean if you do this for a job or as your main income it may be time to invest in a small render farm, if not it's probably an expensive do.[/QUOTE]
I'm only 14, lol. It's just YouTube, but I am a partner and do make some money.
I use Adobe Premiere which does not have Network Rendering, but I could port it easily port it to After Effects which does have network rendering.
I think I am gonna go with the i7 though. That extra time saved will make a difference over time.
[editline]27th December 2011[/editline]
Also if anyone was wondering for some reason here's my build.
[url]http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3iaO[/url]
but wtf is the 2700K?
2600K i7 is a better overclocker. Was well worth the money.
[QUOTE=Maagiline;33921975]but wtf is the 2700K?[/QUOTE]
Just a higher binned 2600k.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;33922242]Just a higher binned 2600k.[/QUOTE]
what.
[QUOTE=Maagiline;33922448]what.[/QUOTE]
CPU (and other stuff, like GPU) sometimes are more stable than others and will run faster with the same amount of power, the 2700k is just a 2600k that has been ~certified~ to run at higher clockspeeds stable-y with the same amount of power, basically. Some 2600k could easily run at the same clockspeeds with the same power, too, but the 2700k are just sold that way.
[QUOTE=Maagiline;33922448]what.[/QUOTE]
Silicon lottery as Shadaez said, same reason the 560 Ti 448s, 570s and 580s are all the "same" GPU with the latter being better and therefore sold at higher clock rates and other things.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;33922582]Silicon lottery as Shadaez said, same reason the 560 Ti 448s, 570s and 580s are all the "same" GPU with the latter being better and therefore sold at higher clock rates and other things.[/QUOTE]
wait could you somehow "make" a 560 Ti into a 580, or am I just being an idiot?
[QUOTE=Maagiline;33923005]wait could you somehow "make" a 560 Ti into a 580, or am I just being an idiot?[/QUOTE]
they usually disable or even remove certain parts on it or something, I don't really know a lot about it, but sometimes it is possible - as what happened with 6950s being flashed to 6970s.
[QUOTE=David Tennant;33922582]Silicon lottery as Shadaez said, same reason the 560 Ti 448s, 570s and 580s are all the "same" GPU with the latter being better and therefore sold at higher clock rates and other things.[/QUOTE]
GPUs are not the same like that. The additional cores are physically disabled using laser cuts. There has been a very few cases where the manufacturers has forgotten to laser cut them, and you can transform it into a higher grade card using a simple bios flash. However, there has been lots of reports of failing attempts because the GPU used in lower generation cards may come from a lower quality bin than the superior models.
[QUOTE=B!N4RY;33923120]GPUs are not the same like that. The additional cores are physically disabled using laser cuts. There has been a very few cases where the manufacturers has forgotten to laser cut them, and you can transform it into a higher grade card using a simple bios flash. However, there has been lots of reports of failing attempts because the GPU used in lower generation cards may come from a lower quality bin than the superior models.[/QUOTE]
wait. wtf.
the manufacturer actually uses more money on disabling and making cards worse.
wtf is the point of that
Maybe it is cheaper to churn out thousands of Chip A and do a simple cut or firmware change to the ones they would otherwise throw away, than it is to have a production line for Chip B, C and D?
Come on, are you that clueless about the economy?
Think about how much money the company will be losing if they only differentiate the cards using different firmwares. Everyone will buy the cheapest card available, and they can upgrade it to one of the top cards in a few minutes.
That's exactly how they do it, make loads of the same chip then cut off or whatever they do if it isn't good enough to be the top end model.
That's where the new 560 Ti 448's came from, they had a stockpile of chips that weren't good enough to be 570s so they cut some bits off and sold it for a bit cheaper, rather than scrapping the stockpile.
It isn't a bad thing, in-fact it's a very good thing, if they were to create a lot different chips and scrap the ones that weren't good enough it would be much more expensive for them and would cost us more as consumers.
Actually, the CPU-s don't really cost that much to produce, they just want to get more money from it and put the price as high as the benchmarks show how high it should be.
Or well, where it should be, like an i5 is ofcourse between the price of i3 and i7.
The cost to actually produce them is only like 20$, they just need something to pay their workers too.
[QUOTE=tratzzz;33923854]Actually, the CPU-s don't really cost that much to produce, they just want to get more money from it and put the price as high as the benchmarks show how high it should be.
Or well, where it should be, like an i5 is ofcourse between the price of i3 and i7.
The cost to actually produce them is only like 20$, they just need something to pay their workers too.[/QUOTE]
fuck, someone should do a FP CPU and GPU company...
rip everybody else off using fancy marketing terms, while providing cheap high quality components to FP members. :v:
The cost of a fabrication plant is considerably more than 20$ however :v:
[QUOTE=Maagiline;33924273]fuck, someone should do a FP CPU and GPU company...
rip everybody else off using fancy marketing terms, while providing cheap high quality components to FP members. :v:[/QUOTE]
Yeah if everyone chip in $20 a month, maybe we can start designing our own chip by the year 4927
Most of the money you're paying for CPUs is covering the cost of research and development. People seem to overlook the fact that it takes a lot of time and money to perfect a product. So that in conjunction with the cost of manufacturing CPUs is what makes them so expensive.
Same goes for pharmaceuticals. Drug companies pay money out the ass to make sure their products are effective and don't cause harm to their customers (in some cases, they screw up and people get even more sick). That's why most new drugs cost a shit ton of money to purchase, until generic versions come out and sell for much cheaper (since the manufacturers of the generic brands didn't have to pay for R&D).
[editline]30th December 2011[/editline]
Save your money and go with the 2500k. The extra time you will be spending waiting for videos to render won't be worth the extra $100. You're 14, your time isn't worth [i]that[/i] much.
Sorry, you need to Log In to post a reply to this thread.
