• What do you do when every hardware component is ruled out in troubleshooting?
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In the last 6 months I have replaced/tested the following hardware components: RAM, GPU, PSU, motherboard, CPU, HDD and disk drive a.k.a. my entire PC. In this process I have practically bought a whole new PC, but I still have the problems from my old PC that are preventing me from playing games. Now there's either something very small that I've blatantly missed, or God simply never wanted me to have a high-end PC in the first place. Now I'm thinking all there is left to do is take it to a professional who may see what I'm not seeing. Specs: ASUS P8Z77-V LK -- Intel Z77 Chipset Intel Core i5-3570K 3.40 GHz LGA1155 CPU PC POWER & COOLING SILENCER MK II 950WATT PSU 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz PNY RAM EVGA GeForce GTX 570 1280MB GDDR5 PCIe (x2) also here's bsod I get when trying to start with one of my GPUs enabled: [URL]http://www.2shared.com/file/10sOT-6Q/032913-11356-01.html[/URL]
Need the actual error on the blue screen rather than the dump file, that should lead to what the problem is
Well there's this BCCode: 116 BCP1: FFFFFA8008022010 BCP2: FFFFF880049882B0 BCP3: 0000000000000000 BCP4: 0000000000000002
I would blame the ASUS motherboard honestly. I've worked on dozens of them and they always had some bizarre BIOS/EFI related issue that caused things not to work. One example of an issue I had with a specific ASUS board was that when a PCIe GPU was in use, the system would randomly BSOD or spontaneously reboot UNLESS you disabled either a serial port or the parallel port. Another example was that Cool'n'Quiet (AMDs equivalent of Speed Step on Intel to throttle the CPU) would not work unless the onboard IDE controller was disabled and three other very specific BIOS settings completely unrelated to it were disabled. That said, ASUS/ASRock are my least favorite motherboard brands, I almost always go with MSI or Gigabyte. FIC was great also, but they don't make x86 offerings anymore.
[QUOTE=bohb;40095453]I would blame the ASUS motherboard honestly. I've worked on dozens of them and they always had some bizarre BIOS/EFI related issue that caused things not to work. One example of an issue I had with a specific ASUS board was that when a PCIe GPU was in use, the system would randomly BSOD or spontaneously reboot UNLESS you disabled either a serial port or the parallel port. Another example was that Cool'n'Quiet (AMDs equivalent of Speed Step on Intel to throttle the CPU) would not work unless the onboard IDE controller was disabled and three other very specific BIOS settings completely unrelated to it were disabled. That said, ASUS/ASRock are my least favorite motherboard brands, I almost always go with MSI or Gigabyte. FIC was great also, but they don't make x86 offerings anymore.[/QUOTE] I guess I cheaped out too bad again, since my motherboard IS a ASRock motherboard.
[QUOTE=bohb;40095453]I would blame the ASUS motherboard honestly. I've worked on dozens of them and they always had some bizarre BIOS/EFI related issue that caused things not to work. One example of an issue I had with a specific ASUS board was that when a PCIe GPU was in use, the system would randomly BSOD or spontaneously reboot UNLESS you disabled either a serial port or the parallel port. Another example was that Cool'n'Quiet (AMDs equivalent of Speed Step on Intel to throttle the CPU) would not work unless the onboard IDE controller was disabled and three other very specific BIOS settings completely unrelated to it were disabled. That said, ASUS/ASRock are my least favorite motherboard brands, I almost always go with MSI or Gigabyte. FIC was great also, but they don't make x86 offerings anymore.[/QUOTE] I never had an Asus or Asrock mobo, but ive heard Asrock has really stepped up their game lately. Recent revieuws have the Asrock z77 extreme 4 as top reccomendation too in terms of performance, features and stabillity.
I agree with asrock being rather problematic (at least in the lower/budget end). I have an Asrock N68C-S UCC and last year had huge problems with it randomly BSOD'ing on me. Turns out the fix was to turn on the thermal throttle. Rather stupid because my temps and framerate are the same regardless of the setting. Really sounds to me like a badly implemented function on the thermal throttle switch. And it does match up pretty well with Bohb having the same problem that was fixed with a disabled bios function.
I'm glad I went with MSI.
[QUOTE=cdlink14;40108017]I agree with asrock being rather problematic (at least in the lower/budget end). I have an Asrock N68C-S UCC and last year had huge problems with it randomly BSOD'ing on me. Turns out the fix was to turn on the thermal throttle. Rather stupid because my temps and framerate are the same regardless of the setting. Really sounds to me like a badly implemented function on the thermal throttle switch. And it does match up pretty well with Bohb having the same problem that was fixed with a disabled bios function.[/QUOTE] Let's be honest, I have the ASRock M3A770DE, and I never had issues related to the motherboard, this thing costed me 44 bucks and I'm satisfied with it.
[QUOTE=Merijnwitje;40117479]Let's be honest, I have the ASRock M3A770DE, and I never had issues related to the motherboard, this thing costed me 44 bucks and I'm satisfied with it.[/QUOTE] I am being honest, what makes you think otherwise?
[QUOTE=cdlink14;40121457]I am being honest, what makes you think otherwise?[/QUOTE] That is a point, who knows what's the difference between this motherboard and the one you had, I don't know any better motherboard though, as this is my first build.
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