• White nationalists and other racialists cheer on Trumps latest strategy
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[img_thumb]https://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_1484w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2016/08/19/Others/Images/2016-08-19/Alt-Right__2016081901561471633756.jpg?uuid=ianUUGZAEea02DPpMbWibQ[/img_thumb] [quote]Jared Taylor hits play, and the first Donald Trump ad of the general election unfolds across his breakfast table. Syrian refugees streaming across a border. Hordes of immigrants, crowded onto trains. “Donald Trump’s America is secure,” rumbles a narrator. “Terrorists and dangerous criminals kept out. The border, secure; our families, safe.” Taylor, one of America’s foremost “racialists,” is impressed and relieved. “That’s a powerful appeal,” he said. “If he can just stick to that, he is in very good shape.” From his Fairfax County home, Taylor has edited the white nationalist magazine American Renaissance and organized racialist conferences under the “AmRen” banner. He said that Trump should “concentrate on his natural constituency, which is white people,” suggesting that winning 65 percent of the white vote would overwhelm any Democratic gains with minorities. When Trump made Breitbart News CEO Steve Bannon his campaign’s chief executive last week, Taylor found reasons to celebrate. It was the latest sign for white nationalists, once dismissed as fringe, that their worldview was gaining popularity and that the old Republican Party was coming to an end.[/quote] [url]https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/racial-realists-are-cheered-by-trumps-latest-strategy/2016/08/20/cd71e858-6636-11e6-96c0-37533479f3f5_story.html[/url]
Does that guy really think Trump will get 65% of the white vote? That somehow 65% of white people believe in Trump's stuff? Romney won about 59% - but Romney was a moderate Republcian. Trump is not, and is very much down in the polls. It's pretty hilarious though that the racists think he can somehow get 65% of the white vote, especially with Trump doing shit with women.
Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] Strom Thurmond running as a Dixiecrat? [quote]In opposition to the Civil Rights Act of 1957, he conducted the longest filibuster ever by a lone senator, at 24 hours and 18 minutes in length, nonstop. In the 1960s, he opposed the civil rights legislation of 1964 and 1965 to end segregation and enforce the constitutional rights of African-American citizens, including suffrage. He always insisted he had never been a racist, but was opposed to excessive federal authority. He attributed the movement to Communist agitators[/quote] Maybe Barry Goldwater?
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] barry goldwater
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] [URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace"]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Wallace[/URL] Literal segregationist. Trump isn't subtle, but he's vague enough that his supporters can try to spin it in different ways. Wallace was upfront about his racism
By worse I meant by plain stupidity and literally just mocking people, not further right politically Thurmond/Goldwater/Wallace always stuck to their beliefs and that's something that Trump doesn't even have
Look on the bright side folks, when Trump (most likely) loses, these people will be still be around and probably angrier since he lost. Wait a minute, that's not a bright side. There are no bright sides here.
[QUOTE=axelord157;50922155]Look on the bright side folks, when Trump (most likely) loses, these people will be still be around and probably angrier since he lost. Wait a minute, that's not a bright side. There are no bright sides here.[/QUOTE] The bright side will be that their beliefs will not be legitimized by the election of Trump to office and brand them as a minority among Americans still.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] Clinton in 08
[QUOTE=Ridge;50922376]Clinton in 08[/QUOTE] How did you come to that conclusion.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50922397]How did you come to that conclusion.[/QUOTE] Maybe because she won the popular vote but Obama won due to carrying more states? At this point it's mental gymnastics trying to find a reason why they came to that conclusion.
[QUOTE=plunger435;50922397]How did you come to that conclusion.[/QUOTE] Because Ridgepublican over there is afflicted with Clinton Derangement Syndrome just like the rest of his ilk, and has been since likely before 2008 as well.
How somebody that worships a pony cartoon about loving one another but gives into Trump's bullshit is beyond me
[QUOTE=Judas;50922030]barry goldwater[/QUOTE] How was goldwater worse than trump?
[QUOTE=Svinnik;50922684]How was goldwater worse than trump?[/QUOTE] The man helped spearhead the southern strategy which is what has ruined the modern Republican party in its validation of racists.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50922404]Maybe because she won the popular vote but Obama won due to carrying more states? At this point it's mental gymnastics trying to find a reason why they came to that conclusion.[/QUOTE] Obama won more total votes than Clinton in the contests where they both appeared on the ballot. Clinton won the popular vote only if you count votes from Michigan, where Obama’s name did not appear on the ballot. [url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/democratic_vote_count.html[/url] [url]http://www.factcheck.org/2008/06/clinton-and-the-popular-vote/[/url] So she technically won, but not really imo.
Surprised it took that long for an article to come up considering his supporters and his overall platform.
[QUOTE=TheBloodyNine;50922709]The man helped spearhead the southern strategy which is what has ruined the modern Republican party in its validation of racists.[/QUOTE] It's the liberal meme to say Goldwater was a racist who "spearheaded" the Souther Strategy when in reality his beliefs aligned with racist for very different reasons, how is that worthy of condemnation when he stuck to his (non racist) ideals? He opposed two parts of the Civil Rights Act for constitutional reasons and he was very outspoken in his beliefs around states rights. He never tried to target racists for support or target minorities with derision, in fact he actually signed several pieces of civil rights legislature during his political career. Furthermore he hated the religious right and refused to indulge in dirty politics (unlike LBJ). This doesn't sounding very much like modern bogeyman Republicans. Goldwater was also in no way worse than Trump based on his behaviour and is arguably better than Clinton in that regard if we want to start digging into [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y"]assassination comments[/URL] or the birther movement if we want to condemn a candidate for their supporters. Before deriding every halfway decent Republican think that by doing so you push them further rightward. Actually look into the person and, if you are capable, judge them based on their merits and not based on whatever puts your side one up.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;50923558]It's the liberal meme to say Goldwater was a racist who "spearheaded" the Souther Strategy when in reality his beliefs aligned with racist for very different reasons, how is that worthy of condemnation when he stuck to his (non racist) ideals? He opposed two parts of the Civil Rights Act for constitutional reasons and he was very outspoken in his beliefs around states rights. He never tried to target racists for support or target minorities with derision, in fact he actually signed several pieces of civil rights legislature during his political career. Furthermore he hated the religious right and refused to indulge in dirty politics (unlike LBJ). This doesn't sounding very much like modern bogeyman Republicans. Goldwater was also in no way worse than Trump based on his behaviour and is arguably better than Clinton in that regard if we want to start digging into [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y"]assassination comments[/URL] or the birther movement if we want to condemn a candidate for their supporters. Before deriding every halfway decent Republican think that by doing so you push them further rightward. Actually look into the person and, if you are capable, judge them based on their merits and not based on whatever puts your side one up.[/QUOTE] Wasn't Goldwater also one of the first high-profile Republicans to support Gay Rights and was also pro-choice?
[QUOTE=The mouse;50923576]Wasn't Goldwater also one of the first high-profile Republicans to support Gay Rights and was also pro-choice?[/QUOTE] As far as I know. [URL="http://www.nytimes.com/1998/06/03/opinion/journal-the-right-stuff.html"]Apparently his first wife helped start Planned Parenthood in Arizona[/URL], which is another stance where he differs with many prominent Republicans today.
[QUOTE=benwaddi;50923558]It's the liberal meme to say Goldwater was a racist who "spearheaded" the Souther Strategy when in reality his beliefs aligned with racist for very different reasons, how is that worthy of condemnation when he stuck to his (non racist) ideals? He opposed two parts of the Civil Rights Act for constitutional reasons and he was very outspoken in his beliefs around states rights. He never tried to target racists for support or target minorities with derision, in fact he actually signed several pieces of civil rights legislature during his political career. Furthermore he hated the religious right and refused to indulge in dirty politics (unlike LBJ). This doesn't sounding very much like modern bogeyman Republicans. Goldwater was also in no way worse than Trump based on his behaviour and is arguably better than Clinton in that regard if we want to start digging into [URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLNFsl130_Y"]assassination comments[/URL] or the birther movement if we want to condemn a candidate for their supporters. Before deriding every halfway decent Republican think that by doing so you push them further rightward. Actually look into the person and, if you are capable, judge them based on their merits and not based on whatever puts your side one up.[/QUOTE] "But he's a republican, he can't be anything but evil incarnate"
[QUOTE=axelord157;50922155]Look on the bright side folks, when Trump (most likely) loses, these people will be still be around and probably angrier since he lost. Wait a minute, that's not a bright side. There are no bright sides here.[/QUOTE] We'll know whose asses to kick. All the racist morons coming out if the woodwork thinking their beliefs are to be legitimized under this retard, when he loses, they aren't going to be able to hide from what they said.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] Hillary Clinton? Jill Stein? Bernie "white people don't know what it's like to be poor" Sanders? Andrew Jackson? John Quincy Adams? Richard Nixon?
trump has given us so much entertainment against the grain of a system you all hate so much and yet so many of you are hating on him let's be honest, you're all getting your jollies off on him one way or another. he's the best candidate we've ever had.
I hate him because he's a disgusting individual who is unfit to run the USA. The fact that a massive number of Americans are willing to support him is truly baffling, especially the ones who go through severe mental contortions to justify why.
[QUOTE=TheJoey;50924037]trump has given us so much entertainment against the grain of a system you all hate so much and yet so many of you are hating on him let's be honest, you're all getting your jollies off on him one way or another. he's the best candidate we've ever had.[/QUOTE] Did you forget about someone? [IMG]http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcb7odInk41rtgv4po1_1280.jpg[/IMG] At least Romeny could have been a decent President and not tried to shit on everyone.
[QUOTE=Daniel Smith;50921975]Has there ever been a presidential candidate worse than Trump? A genuine question, i'd probably have to go back to the 1800's[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/history-campaign-politics-zachary-taylor-killed-whigs-political-party-213935[/url] Zachary Taylor is reportedly similar
[QUOTE=space1;50924020]Hillary Clinton? Jill Stein? Bernie "white people don't know what it's like to be poor" Sanders?[/QUOTE] Is this some kind of sick prank? Are we being tricked here? Whoops, it's just a space1 post. Don't worry guys, false alarm. (none of those are suggesting systemic segregation and endorsing discrimination of people based on the colour of their skin and the books they read, instant fail on the "are they worse than Trump?" test)
[QUOTE=hexpunK;50924077]Is this some kind of sick prank? Are we being tricked here? Whoops, it's just a space1 post. Don't worry guys, false alarm. (none of those are suggesting systemic segregation and endorsing discrimination of people based on the colour of their skin and the books they read, instant fail on the "are they worse than Trump?" test)[/QUOTE] Trump isn't talking about skin color, he's talking about muslims. Are you really going to just read article headlines and not look at what he's actually saying? Like god damn, you can say he's xenophobic, and you're right(It's true for Mexicans as well, he never attacked them just for being Mexicans). You can't say he's racist because these are completely different things. Jill Stein and Bernie Sanders however, want "reparations for slavery" amongst other batshit insane ideas that will never fucking work. To top it off, they actually are racist and bitch about white people. They're the only ones I've seen talk about race this election, and until you can offer me proof to show me otherwise you're speaking out of ignorance.
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