Google Challenging The Government On The First Amendment - Polidicks

[quote](Reuters) - [B]Google Inc asked the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court on Tuesday to allow it to publish aggregate numbers of national security requests it receives separately from criminal requests, on First Amendment grounds.[/B] In its filing, Google requested the court to allow it to publish the aggregate number of national security requests it receives, including disclosures under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), claiming it as part of its First Amendment right to free speech. "In light of the intense public interest generated by the Guardian's and Post's erroneous articles, and others that have followed them, Google seeks to increase its transparency with users and the public regarding its receipt of national security requests, if any," the Google filing said. Google's move comes after other tech companies, including Microsoft Corp, Facebook Inc and Apple Inc released limited information about the number of surveillance requests they receive under an agreement they struck with the U.S. government last week.[/quote] [url]http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/18/us-usa-security-google-idUSBRE95H19B20130618[/url]

I don't really know what to make of Google. [b]I want to believe[/b]

Yet Google has been shown to bend at the will of governments before (e.g. China), and it wouldn't be too crazy to assume they've willingly given information to the CIA/NSA/FBI before. I'll've see it to believe it.

[QUOTE=Kendra;41090560]Yet Google has been shown to bend at the will of governments before (e.g. China), and it wouldn't be too crazy to assume they've willingly given information to the CIA/NSA/FBI before. I'll've see it to believe it.[/QUOTE] Pardon? FISA requests are law. If you break the law, you get into a lot more trouble with the government than simply a slap on the wrist. Google has to comply with the law - that can't change; it just wants to make what it does public.

[QUOTE=Kendra;41090560]Yet Google has been shown to bend at the will of governments before (e.g. China), and it wouldn't be too crazy to assume they've willingly given information to the CIA/NSA/FBI before. I'll've see it to believe it.[/QUOTE] Yes, but the China thing dragged on for a while if I remember. Google purposely carried it on.

Google seems like too cool of a company to be as fucking massive as it is.

[thumb]http://media.silive.com/opinion_columns/photo/google-dont-be-eviljpg-f5a94eb08080dc7b.jpg[/thumb] Damn it Google, don't you dare let me down.

[QUOTE=Kendra;41090560]Yet Google has been shown to bend at the will of governments before (e.g. China), and it wouldn't be too crazy to assume they've willingly given information to the CIA/NSA/FBI before. I'll've see it to believe it.[/QUOTE] You have a choice of complying or getting your shit fucked up seven ways from sunday, they didn't really have a choice.

[QUOTE=Zenreon117;41090909][thumb]http://media.silive.com/opinion_columns/photo/google-dont-be-eviljpg-f5a94eb08080dc7b.jpg[/thumb] Damn it Google, don't you dare let me down.[/QUOTE] can we avoid posting stupid comics by paranoid conservative political cartoonists please [editline]19th June 2013[/editline] google tailors ads to your search history omg so scary big brother is here

[QUOTE=Kopimi;41090963] google tailors ads to your search history omg so scary big brother is here[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but when there is a massive elephant in the room with the ability to stomp you should it please, you would be wise to keep an eye on it.

Seems fishy to me. Microsoft and Facebook both have a bad rep for monitoring their customers, and if Google is "following suit" perhaps this is an illusion of "transparency" to get everyone off of their backs. Just throwing that out there.

[QUOTE=Tophat;41091035]Seems fishy to me. Microsoft and Facebook both have a bad rep for monitoring their customers, and if Google is "following suit" perhaps this is an illusion of "transparency" to get everyone off of their backs. Just throwing that out there.[/QUOTE] all they want to do is do what they've already been doing with nsls, but now with fisa requests [url]http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/userdatarequests/US/[/url]

I'm siding with Apple when it comes to this NSA shit, they were the last ones to be plotted on and released their security request in a press release

So how much longer until Google actually takes over the US?

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;41091065]all they want to do is do what they've already been doing with nsls, but now with fisa requests [url]http://www.google.com/transparencyreport/userdatarequests/US/[/url][/QUOTE] the rules are so limiting on this, the number of nsls and affected accounts has to be widened to a thousand so if 1 nsl is sent to google, and 2 accounts are searched by that nsl, for that reporting period, its 1-1000 nsls, and 1-1000 accounts