Einstein letter, on sale at Ebay, blamed Jewish terrorists for risking ‘catastrophe’ in Palestine - Polidicks

[quote]Ebay is selling a letter written by Albert Einstein at the time of the Deir Yassin massacre in April 1948 to an American Zionist, denouncing the Zionist militias’ terrorist activities. It’s interesting that Einstein’s word, catastrophe, is also the Palestinians’ word in Arabic, the Nakba. The letter’s text: [quote] April 10,1948 Mr. Shepard Rifkin Exec.Director American Friends of the Fighters for the Freedom of Israel 149 Second Ave. New York 3,N.Y. Dear Sir: When a real and final catastrophe should befall us in Palestine the first responsible for it would be the British and the second responsible for it the Terrorist organizations build up from our own ranks. I am not willing to see anybody associated with those misled and criminal people. Sincerely yours, (Signed, ‘A. Einstein’) Albert Einstein.[/quote][/quote] [img]http://f8wee1vvia32pdxo527grujy61.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/Albert-Einstein-letter-501x580.jpg[/img] [url]http://mondoweiss.net/2013/10/terrorists-catastrophe-palestine.html[/url]

I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.

how is this shocking... he lived through catastrophic nationalism inspired war twice, watched what happened with the racial rhetoric in ww2, he even wrote in his lecture book on armistice day "class canceled due to revolution" this guy had seen what nationalist movements could grow to, both with ww1's fatal nationalism and ww2's facsism. he knew that the zionist movement was just another growth along these same lines, and seeing the rhetoric comming out of israel and the situation there, its not much different, people are trying to subjugate instead of co-exist.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] movie stars... good at singing? [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] did you mean acting?

[QUOTE=Cabbage;42609449]movie stars... good at singing? [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] did you mean acting?[/QUOTE] Whatever, you know what I meant.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] I'd still like such a letter.

hang the fuck on einstein don't blame us

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] You're just bitter that some of the most celebrated intellectuals such as Einstein, Hawking, and Chomsky have said things that run opposite of what you'd like to hear.

wow halo effect at work

[QUOTE=Lamar;42609611]You're just bitter the some of the most celebrated intellectuals such as Einstein, Hawking, and Chomsky have said things that run opposite of what you'd like to hear.[/QUOTE] Being a trusted expert on one topic doesn't mean you're a trusted expert on everything else. It's basically the same logic as "Hitler was a vegetarian, so all vegetarians are like Hitler"; and yes I know Hitler wasn't a veggie.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42609642]Being a trusted expert on one topic doesn't mean you're a trusted expert on everything else. It's basically the same logic as "Hitler was a vegetarian, so all vegetarians are like Hitler"; and yes I know Hitler wasn't a veggie.[/QUOTE] True, but probably doesn't invalidate what Lamar said.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] There is some truth in pointing this out, but who's to say that Einstein wasn't really into politics at the time and knew his shit? It's like you are assuming that just because he is known for his achievements in physics he can't have anything valuable to say about other things, which could be just as incorrect as what you are calling out.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] Are you serious educate yourself more jeez Albert Einstein was one of the most influential people alive during that period for his political and humanitarian actions. He was fucking offered presidency of Israel in 1952 but he turned it down. So yes, people cared about his opinions on foreign policy, and he gave them a lot.

[QUOTE=sgman91;42609432]I think it's funny how people assume that if someone has valuable things to say about one thing they must have valuable things to say about everything. Einstein was a scientist, who the hell cares about his opinions on foreign affairs? It's like people taking movie stars' opinions over other people simply because they're good at singing.[/QUOTE] except einstein isn't just anyone, he was given to opportunity to become president of israel. [QUOTE]Albert Einstein, a Jew but not an Israeli citizen, was offered the presidency in 1952 but turned it down, stating "I am deeply moved by the offer from our State of Israel, and at once saddened and ashamed that I cannot accept it."[4] Ehud Olmert was reported to be considering offering the presidency to another non-Israeli, Elie Wiesel, but he was said to be "very not interested".[5][/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel[/url]

[QUOTE=Wizards Court;42609899]except einstein isn't just anyone, he was given to opportunity to become president of israel. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel[/url][/QUOTE] From your own source, "an apolitical ceremonial figurehead role" [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lamar;42609611]You're just bitter the some of the most celebrated intellectuals such as Einstein, Hawking, and Chomsky have said things that run opposite of what you'd like to hear.[/QUOTE] Chomsky's opinion would matter, but Einstein and Hawking not as much when it's not their field of expertise.

[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;42609934]Chomsky's opinion would matter, but Einstein and Hawking not as much when it's not their field of expertise.[/QUOTE] Except Einstein was a renowned political intellectual the same as chomsky?

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;42609642]Being a trusted expert on one topic doesn't mean you're a trusted expert on everything else. It's basically the same logic as "Hitler was a vegetarian, so all vegetarians are like Hitler"; and yes I know Hitler wasn't a veggie.[/QUOTE] Except being an intellectual is not exclusive to one field. He was a smart guy, a lot of the things that he said are worth listening to. It's stupid to assume he only knows anything about physics and that he is completely average in every other field.

The young man's name? Albert Einstein

[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IeM9KR_O4yo&feature=youtu.be[/media] 10,000 people crammed into one building to hear Einstein talk about european politics

I honestly never knew about the political side of Einstein and all I can say is that it makes me respect him much more. Which is saying a lot really. I always loved this guy.

you guys forget....einstein had enough political clout to start the manhatten project the largest covert spending project in history that cost billions at the time, trillions today, in fact he could probably have written a letter to joseph stallin and it would have gotten there. the guy could have run for political offices if he was a different sort of man, but in that day politics (congress and such) were left to politicians

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[QUOTE=Sableye;42610157]you guys forget....einstein had enough political clout to start the manhatten project the largest covert spending project in history that cost billions at the time, trillions today, in fact he could probably have written a letter to joseph stallin and it would have gotten there. the guy could have run for political offices if he was a different sort of man, but in that day politics (congress and such) were left to politicians[/QUOTE] The Manhattan Project was the idea of Leo Szilard, not Albert Einstein. Einstein merely gave the idea his endorsement.

The thing about the modern state of Israel was that it was founded by Jewish Armed Militas and mercenaries hijacking the UN sanctioned zones and forcefully occupying them. The Israeli government was created after the war happened. The World Zionist Organization basically just said, "THIS IS OURS", got a bunch of paramilitary together and fought a war in the sands that was entirely targeted at driving out the Arab population. Along with lots of fucking illegal arms trade and ironically buying German weapons that were captured from the eastern front. Mass immigration, so and so. The goal of the war wasn't preventing the state of isreal, more of maintaining the Palestinian-Arab lands. That's why the countries that invaded mainly stuck to that area, not even coordinating with each other and essentially had lots of divided armies. Egypt in the gaza strip, Jordan in the west bank, etcetc. Einstein didn't want to be president of the newly created country since it was literally created out of unjust war from an unjust war. He had seen his people being driven from their homes by an invading force that sought to occupy their land for living space, the nazis of course is what I'm talking about. Then the same happens in Palestine and the greater Jerusalem area. Course he would say fuck no. I'm a second generation German-Polish immigrant and my grandfather survived the nazis as a Polish jew in the camps. I can completely see where Einstein is coming from and the Israel government is bitter and rotten for their actions in the region.

[QUOTE=Cabbage;42609449]movie stars... good at singing? [editline]22nd October 2013[/editline] did you mean acting?[/QUOTE] Hugh Laurie, Hugh Jackman, Christopher Lee, and Anne Hathaway etc etc etc

Needs to be checked for authenticity first, a lot of 'old' Einstein letters are popping up on Ebay lately.

People seem to think that he was some anti-Zionist. He wasn't. He was for the State of Israel. He was just completely against violence, in any form.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42611567]People seem to think that he was some anti-Zionist. He wasn't. He was for the State of Israel. He was just completely against violence, in any form.[/QUOTE] It's not about the state of Israel, it's about what the state of Israel is doing.

[QUOTE=DogGunn;42611567]He was just completely against violence, in any form.[/QUOTE] Not entirely true. He urged people to volunteer in the military to fight fascism. He's for world peace, not rocking ghandi tier pacifism.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;42611597]It's not about the state of Israel, it's about what the state of Israel is doing.[/QUOTE] Right... and is that why the letter was written before Israel was formed?